New project adjacent to Ocean Marina?

[thinkingman]

Anyone know what it is? it looks like a big project. Anyone know what it is? At one time Google maps showed this as a shopping center or Mall

[johng]

I drove past yesterday and noticed  the long high plain white hoardings..saw no indication on the hoarding of what is being built.

[McGregor21]

Waiting for an update on this, I live very close by and no one ive spoken to locally knows.

 

Id guess a hotel rather than a condo.

[Langsuan Man]

Probably one of the cleanest looking privacy walls I have ever seen in Thailand

[Bjrda77]

That piece of land owed by ”CP”, and many other plotts around 1000 rai in that area. The Icon Siam group is going to have a similar project as in BKK, the new family friendly Pattaya city!

Hence, they don’t earn much money from the high speed train and they don’t draw the new high way no 7 there for nothing!

[Rimmer]

Was informed a couple of days back they intend to build three L shape towers of different heights at an angle to the sea so they will all get a sea view.

Understand CP and Cirque du Soleil are involved.  

[Guderian]

Not 100% certain, but I think it's probably going to be this one:

 

 

 

https://www.mypattayacondo.com/condo/marina-golden-bay-pattaya/

 

 

[jacko45k]

What a monstrosity!

[Leaver]

Surely a build like this would have to take into account the possibility casinos will be allowed here in the future and incorporate that into the design. 

[johng]

21 hours ago, Guderian said:

Not 100% certain, but I think it's probably going to be this one:

 

https://www.mypattayacondo.com/condo/marina-golden-bay-pattaya/

 

 

Well the link says location is Theprasit road ?

 

 

[Lovethailandelite]

First off, the new construction going in is nothing to do with Pattaya. It comes under Sattahip jurisdiction. If you want to see the plans, go to Sattahip City Hall.
I will make it easy for you though. Two 57 storey Luxury Condo blocks, 2 hotels (1 a branded hotel, the other a 'Themed' hotel) plus the biggest Iconsiam shopping mall yet undertaken. That is the first phase. Plans for the second phase haven't yet been released. CP hold huge parcels of land in the area.
This development has nothing whatsoever to do with the Marina Golden Bay development which comes under Pattaya jurisdiction and is being built in the area of Thepprasit rd

[Leaver]

8 hours ago, kinyara said:

In what way?

I believe some big new builds, such as this one, if it goes ahead, has open floor plan design on some of the floors.  No rooms on them. 

 

The lifts do not even stop on these floors.  These whole floors are left ready for future fit out, and I believe it's for the possibility casinos will be allowed here in the future. 

 

Big builds like this are never full occupancy, so not developing a floor makes good sense.

 

8 hours ago, kinyara said:

A massive empty unused space inside and a car park full of trucks loaded with fruit machines, roulette wheels and black jack tables poised to be unloaded if the law changes.  Get real. 

Who said anything about car parks and trucks?  You do have a vivid imagination.

 

8 hours ago, kinyara said:

If you could ever post anything remotely factual to support your observations it might add a bit to the credibility of your posts.

I don't seek credibility.  I only seek discussion. 

 

If you are seeking credibility, particularly in Government, Thailand is not the place for you.    ????

 

8 hours ago, kinyara said:

It's all " maybe's, ifs  possibilities",

Which sums up Thailand, does it not?  Nothing can be reliable upon here.  Thailand operates in one big grey area, especially for farang.

 

8 hours ago, kinyara said:

the only certainty being your constant spamming this forum to spin negativity on anything to do with Pattaya or Thailand in general. 

No spamming and negativity.

 

Perhaps you could enlighten me on all the positives of the Pattaya local economy at the moment.  I'll be kind and say, pre virus.

 

While you are at it, tell me about the thriving businesses here, great infrastructure, good value cost of living for westerners, clean beaches and beach water, good roads, abundant water supply, easy and cheap visas, non racist locals, honest police, no dual pricing, and good governance etc.

 

Nothing wrong with discussing Pattaya's shortfalls.  They are the reason this has been a terrible high season, confirmed by senior Thai's in the tourism industry, through the media, which is rare.

 

 

Edited February 1, 2020 by Leaver

[Lovethailandelite]

Should Casinos ever be allowed, there is no need to build a casino in Chonburi. There is already one built and has a room count now, since the new wing was completed last year, in the region of 6500 rooms. Another new wing has already started to be built. The place was built for that sole reason because back in the late 80's and early 90's, casinos were very close to happening in Thailand. Do your history on the Ambassador hotel and why it was built, who built it etc. It was at one time, the biggest hotel in the world. With the recently completed new wing and another under construction, it may well be the biggest hotel in the world again. Casino hotels don't want you leave and spend your money outside. Ambassador city has everything. Shops, night clubs, restaurants,huge parking etc.
The casino wing is already there and has been locked off from day one.
It's the only place outside of Bangkok in this area that would ever have a chance to become a casino.

Edited February 1, 2020 by Lovethailandelite

[Rimmer]

A personal attack has been removed

[Leaver]

6 hours ago, Lovethailandelite said:

Should Casinos ever be allowed, there is no need to build a casino in Chonburi. There is already one built and has a room count now, since the new wing was completed last year, in the region of 6500 rooms. Another new wing has already started to be built. The place was built for that sole reason because back in the late 80's and early 90's, casinos were very close to happening in Thailand. Do your history on the Ambassador hotel and why it was built, who built it etc. It was at one time, the biggest hotel in the world. With the recently completed new wing and another under construction, it may well be the biggest hotel in the world again. Casino hotels don't want you leave and spend your money outside. Ambassador city has everything. Shops, night clubs, restaurants,huge parking etc.
The casino wing is already there and has been locked off from day one.
It's the only place outside of Bangkok in this area that would ever have a chance to become a casino.

Interesting post. 

 

6 hours ago, Lovethailandelite said:

It's the only place outside of Bangkok in this area that would ever have a chance to become a casino.

Why do you say this? 

[johng]

7 hours ago, Lovethailandelite said:

With the recently completed new wing and another under construction,

New wing ???   can't see it on the satellite view.

[sometime]

Small units

Condo sizes and price ranges in Marina Golden Bay Pattaya:

• Studio/1-Bathroom Units (Small): 20 Square Meters/215 Square Feet. (2,100,000THB<)
• 1-Bedroom/1-Bathroom Units (Medium): 29 Square Meters/312 Square Feet. (2,800,000THB<)
• 1-Bedroom/1-Bathroom Units (Large): 36 Square Meters/387 Square Feet. (3,600,000THB<)
• 2-Bedroom/2-Bathroom Units (X-Large): 57 Square Meters/613 Square Feet. (5,700,000THB<)

• Maintenance Fee: 60THB Per Square Meter Per Month (Ongoing) Payable 1 Year in Advance.

[Guderian]

1 hour ago, sometime said:

Small units

Condo sizes and price ranges in Marina Golden Bay Pattaya:

• Studio/1-Bathroom Units (Small): 20 Square Meters/215 Square Feet. (2,100,000THB<)
• 1-Bedroom/1-Bathroom Units (Medium): 29 Square Meters/312 Square Feet. (2,800,000THB<)
• 1-Bedroom/1-Bathroom Units (Large): 36 Square Meters/387 Square Feet. (3,600,000THB<)
• 2-Bedroom/2-Bathroom Units (X-Large): 57 Square Meters/613 Square Feet. (5,700,000THB<)

• Maintenance Fee: 60THB Per Square Meter Per Month (Ongoing) Payable 1 Year in Advance.

So a 100 sqm condo will cost 6,000 Baht/month in maintenance fees? That's more than I pay in council tax back in the UK, daylight robbery!

[newnative]

9 hours ago, Guderian said:

So a 100 sqm condo will cost 6,000 Baht/month in maintenance fees? That's more than I pay in council tax back in the UK, daylight robbery!

   If they had 100 sqm units.  The website lists a 2 bedroom 57 sqm unit as the largest available--unless you put 2 units together.  57 sqm units would have monthly maintenance fees of 3420 baht a month--or around $110 USA dollars.  60 baht a sqm maintenance is a high for Pattaya but a bargain compared with what I paid in America.  10 years ago I was paying $250 a month condo fees for a small 1 bedroom--plus property tax on top of that.  Much cheaper here.  Most new projects have monthly maintenance fees in the 50 baht/sqm range.  

[jacko45k]

20 hours ago, sometime said:

Small units

Condo sizes and price ranges in Marina Golden Bay Pattaya:

• Studio/1-Bathroom Units (Small): 20 Square Meters/215 Square Feet. (2,100,000THB<)
• 1-Bedroom/1-Bathroom Units (Medium): 29 Square Meters/312 Square Feet. (2,800,000THB<)
• 1-Bedroom/1-Bathroom Units (Large): 36 Square Meters/387 Square Feet. (3,600,000THB<)
• 2-Bedroom/2-Bathroom Units (X-Large): 57 Square Meters/613 Square Feet. (5,700,000THB<)

• Maintenance Fee: 60THB Per Square Meter Per Month (Ongoing) Payable 1 Year in Advance.

I would say livable, small, very small and tiny! Is 25,000 baht p.a. a common maintenance fee these days?

[Halfaboy]

Would like to see a detailed budget. Cannot imagine this amount of money could be justified....

[newnative]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

I would say livable, small, very small and tiny! Is 25,000 baht p.a. a common maintenance fee these days?

Yes, for new or newer projects and many older, nice projects with larger units.

[thinkingman]

On 2/1/2020 at 7:56 AM, Lovethailandelite said:

First off, the new construction going in is nothing to do with Pattaya. It comes under Sattahip jurisdiction. If you want to see the plans, go to Sattahip City Hall.
I will make it easy for you though. Two 57 storey Luxury Condo blocks, 2 hotels (1 a branded hotel, the other a 'Themed' hotel) plus the biggest Iconsiam shopping mall yet undertaken. That is the first phase. Plans for the second phase haven't yet been released. CP hold huge parcels of land in the area.
This development has nothing whatsoever to do with the Marina Golden Bay development which comes under Pattaya jurisdiction and is being built in the area of Thepprasit rd

Makes sense, although the area doesn’t need more condos. CP probably knows better.

 

as long as they have a grocery store I will be happy!