Hungarian pensioner dies in the cells at Suvarnabhumi as he awaits deportation

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Hungarian pensioner dies in the cells at Suvarnabhumi as he awaits deportation

 

Thai caption: He never woke up again

Picture: Sanook

 

A 60 year old Hungarian man who was set to be deported to face charges in his home country after he hid out and overstayed in Thailand was found dead in his holding cell at Suvarnabhumi airport on Sunday morning. 

 

The Hungarian man had earlier been arrested by the immigration police and handed over to the airport police on Saturday about midday. 

 

He was not considered at risk and had an evening meal and went to sleep.

 

A check on him revealed he had died in the night and had been deceased around eight hours. There were no marks on his body or signs of foul play. 

 

Sanook said he was known to suffer from diabetes.

 

An autopsy was called for and the Hungarian embassy were contacted so that relatives could be notified.

 

An inquiry is underway and staff at the facility will be interviewed. 

 

Source: Sanook

 

 

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[zyphodb]

I bet they didn't check to see he had diabetic medication or possibly even took it away from him...

[Matzzon]

49 minutes ago, zyphodb said:

I bet they didn't check to see he had diabetic medication or possibly even took it away from him...

Might be, but it can also be that they found out he was diabetic after he was dead. It is Sanook stating that it was known he suffered from diabetes, which might be something they digged up after. In that case, if the man had his belongings taken away from him and never opened his mouth about any diabetes or a need for medication. In that case you can´t blame immigration either.

[nausea]

Doesn't sound like his future was very rosy, especially at 60. Hopefully, he died in his sleep, which, as the song says, is the most we can hope for.

[Eindhoven]

3 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Might be, but it can also be that they found out he was diabetic after he was dead. It is Sanook stating that it was known he suffered from diabetes, which might be something they digged up after. In that case, if the man had his belongings taken away from him and never opened his mouth about any diabetes or a need for medication. In that case you can´t blame immigration either.

 

Would you open you mouth about the need for medication, if you knew that you could die from the lack of it?

[Matzzon]

2 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

Would you open you mouth about the need for medication, if you knew that you could die from the lack of it?

Sorry, I am lost here. I don´t know what you mean to say with this quote? Yes, of course I would do that. It´s exactly what I am posting about. If he had been telling them, they would have let him have his medicin. What are you on about? Do you think he told them and they laughed at him and throw him to die in the cell?

[Matzzon]

13 minutes ago, nausea said:

he died in his sleep, which, as the song says, is the most we can hope for.

Yes, and before that he broke even, right?

[VocalNeal]

30 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

Would you open you mouth about the need for medication, if you knew that you could die from the lack of it?

 

Maybe not if you didn't want to go back and face whatever charges they were that made you run away in the first place.

[steven100]

he wasn't Hungry as they gave him a meal.

he was from Hungary.

RIP old timer...   

 

 

 

Edited January 27, 2020 by steven100

[hansnl]

3 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Might be, but it can also be that they found out he was diabetic after he was dead. It is Sanook stating that it was known he suffered from diabetes, which might be something they digged up after. In that case, if the man had his belongings taken away from him and never opened his mouth about any diabetes or a need for medication. In that case you can´t blame immigration either.

Yes, you can!

[Matzzon]

5 minutes ago, hansnl said:

Yes, you can!

How, please explain?

[Geoffggi]

Maybe he didn't like Somtam....!!!!

[Traubert]

4 hours ago, zyphodb said:

I bet they didn't check to see he had diabetic medication or possibly even took it away from him...

Would that kill him in under 24 hours?

[Nyezhov]

Sometimes folks just...die. Its our fate. RIP.

[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Sorry, I am lost here. I don´t know what you mean to say with this quote? Yes, of course I would do that. It´s exactly what I am posting about. If he had been telling them, they would have let him have his medicin. What are you on about? Do you think he told them and they laughed at him and throw him to die in the cell?

That wouldn’t surprise me... not that they knowingly threw him in a cell and left him to die, but that they ignored his requests to keep his medication out of ignorance and lack of empathy. 

 

Of course, all of this is just speculation, none of us can know what happened or how the deceased passed away.

 

We have been 'fed a bone’ with the article mentioning Diabetes. Many of us have also been here long enough to hear how brutal the conditions and how uncompassionate the Police at the IDC are. That the deceased passed due to having his medication withheld remains a firm possibility. 

 

 

Edited January 27, 2020 by richard_smith237

[RotBenz8888]

12 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Would that kill him in under 24 hours?

Maybe, if he had diabetes type 1, and wasn't given insulin , it could cause ketoacidosis. But if he had type 2 and didn't take his tablets, i doubt it, although the stress of being jailed could be added in increasing the blood sugar level

[zyphodb]

25 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Would that kill him in under 24 hours?

It's possible, depending on his general health and what he did, or didn't eat...

[RotBenz8888]

3 minutes ago, zyphodb said:

It's possible, depending on his general health and what he did, or didn't eat...

Diabetes+stress, could be heart infarction or a massive stroke. More likely than a direct cause due to lack of diabetic medication.

Edited January 27, 2020 by RotBenz8888

[IAMHERE]

Pure speculation that he died in his sleep. What do the other prisoners say? Shoulnd't be dying in detention at the airport.

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Maybe, if he had diabetes type 1, and wasn't given insulin , it could cause ketoacidosis. But if he had type 2 and didn't take his tablets, i doubt it, although the stress of being jailed could be added in increasing the blood sugar level

Ok, thanks for the info.

[Beggar]

He went to a better world where he doesn't need a visa and can't overstay. 

[nobodysfriend]

Sorry Thailand , but I think that you are treating people who did not commit a real crime , just overstayed their Visa , like hard core criminals by throwing them into overcrowded prison cells , not fair .

I mean a crime is something that let's somebody else suffer a loss . Of life or material things etc . But overstay ? Who suffers from this ? Apart of the overstayers who are in prison themselves , of course ...?

[Matzzon]

6 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Might be, but it can also be that they found out he was diabetic after he was dead. It is Sanook stating that it was known he suffered from diabetes, which might be something they digged up after. In that case, if the man had his belongings taken away from him and never opened his mouth about any diabetes or a need for medication. In that case you can´t blame immigration either.

Hell Yeah! I am going to quote myself (#3) here. The reason for is that I can not for my life understand why so many get confused over above post.

Is it some kind of rule to blame immigration for everything, disregarding if there is proof to back it up or not? Or is it only that you confused members are so lost that you just go with the flow and blame anyone you just don´t wish to show any support for totally without evidence?

Yes, I know that it might be true. They might have denied him his medication, but until there is nothing that supports that it´s better to not judge.

[Scot123]

6 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Sorry, I am lost here. I don´t know what you mean to say with this quote? Yes, of course I would do that. It´s exactly what I am posting about. If he had been telling them, they would have let him have his medicin. What are you on about? Do you think he told them and they laughed at him and throw him to die in the cell?

YES! 

[Scot123]

8 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Hell Yeah! I am going to quote myself (#3) here. The reason for is that I can not for my life understand why so many get confused over above post.

Is it some kind of rule to blame immigration for everything, disregarding if there is proof to back it up or not? Or is it only that you confused members are so lost that you just go with the flow and blame anyone you just don´t wish to show any support for totally without evidence?

Yes, I know that it might be true. They might have denied him his medication, but until there is nothing that supports that it´s better to not judge.

Wow, just like you making up things to justify your narrative. I think many expats have a very good understanding about Thai immigration and how it works, many expats have visited Thai prisons to aid expats, there are many expats who know people who have fallen foul of immigration and every expat knows immigration due to their archaic 90 day reporting and annual applications for extention. Is it more or less likely they never gave him his medication? HELL YES. 

[BestB]

6 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Sorry, I am lost here. I don´t know what you mean to say with this quote? Yes, of course I would do that. It´s exactly what I am posting about. If he had been telling them, they would have let him have his medicin. What are you on about? Do you think he told them and they laughed at him and throw him to die in the cell?

It would be good if for ones you actually had a real clue before posting .

 

Have you ever had any dealings with authorities in Thailand ? Besides an occasional road stop ?

 

yes they laugh and lock you up and could not care less what you say or what you need that is in addition to speaking almost zero English .

 

i was witness to Korean couple being thrown in the cells where wife freaked and went into shock, could not breath , turned blue . It was us the inmates to revived her while guard on duty did not even offfer a bottle of water 

Edited January 27, 2020 by BestB

[Tulak]

6 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Might be, but it can also be that they found out he was diabetic after he was dead. It is Sanook stating that it was known he suffered from diabetes, which might be something they digged up after. In that case, if the man had his belongings taken away from him and never opened his mouth about any diabetes or a need for medication. In that case you can´t blame immigration either.

...his belongings taken away from him and never opened his mouth about any diabetes or a need for medication...

 

Seriously, do you think there was some serious attempt to ask him at all?

[Golden Triangle]

3 hours ago, Matzzon said:

How, please explain?

For a start it's called 'Duty of Care' something that is sadly lacking in Thailand even though they are supposed to be signed up to various Human Rights conventions.

 

That's why you have 40 to 60 prisoners to a cell in the prisons and all sorts of other abuses, wake up dude and stop being another apologist for this sadly lacking country. And yes, I have been to visit someone in jail here so I know the conditions.

[justin case]

he got wuhan chicken or fish or whatever disgusting animals they eat

[RJRS1301]

6 hours ago, steven100 said:

he wasn't Hungry as they gave him a meal.

he was from Hungary.

RIP old timer...   

 

 

 

60 aint that old really