VIDEO: Shocking moment fishing trawler collides with Koh Chang ferry

[Ireland32]

10-1 on his phone or Napping

Edited January 30, 2020 by Ireland32

[GordonP]

International Regulations for Prevention of Collision at Sea. Both are motor vessels, fishing boat is give way vessel. 

[tifino]

lucky not one of those lurking chinese mega trawlers! the tonnage could have been closer to parity

 

[BwindiBoy]

4 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

My money is on the Corona virus.

My money is on the YaBa virus.

[CFCjeff]

Chris cuomo and Don Lemon nod approvingly.

 

[wcoast]

I'm kinda surprised that the ferry captain didn't send a few loud horn blasts out to alert the trawler. As a captain I'd be <deleted> about another vessel aiming to T-bone me.

[Assurancetourix]

17 minutes ago, GordonP said:

International Regulations for Prevention of Collision at Sea. Both are motor vessels, fishing boat is give way vessel. 

Above I wrote that the fishing boat is at fault but I had not seen the video; in fact the fishing boat comes from the right and therefore has priority;

[DPKANKAN]

5 hours ago, colinneil said:

Just shows not only are there crazy drivers on the roads, but on fishing boats also

Helmsman on fishing boat either drunk, or busy looking at his smart phone.

Don't think they should call them a 'smart' phone in Thailand. Should be called a 'numb nuts' phone!!!????????????????????????

[ChouDoufu]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The local harbor master will meet the captains and crew of both vessels today to investigate what happened. 

ummm......you misunderstand.  they're not going to discuss the accident, after all it's just fate.

 

they'll be starting an investigation into a foreign tourist using naughty words in public.  shirley posting that on sociable media must be a violation of some digital security law.

 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

One foreign passenger among the tourists who witnessed the incident can be heard to swear.

 

[CNXexpat]

These ferries are soooooo tiny, not easy to see. 

[Yinn]

5 hours ago, colinneil said:

Just shows not only are there crazy drivers on the roads, but on fishing boats also

Helmsman on fishing boat either drunk, or busy looking at his smart phone.

Maybe looking mirror put on makeup? 

Or makeup story?

[White Christmas13]

5 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

My money is on the Corona virus.

you mean to many coronas

[katatonic]

29 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:

Above I wrote that the fishing boat is at fault but I had not seen the video; in fact the fishing boat comes from the right and therefore has priority;

Correct, but unfortunately just like the roads here the rules are secondary: the long-tails, speedboats and fishing boats (albeit to a lesser extent as they do tend to have a bit more of a clue), will utterly refuse to take any sort of avoiding manoeuvre at all due to the 'face' culture, preferring to collide and die rather than pass round the back of you (or even brake, in the case of a car or motorbike). This is the main cause of the high death toll here, I believe.

[chrisinth]

59 minutes ago, GordonP said:

International Regulations for Prevention of Collision at Sea. Both are motor vessels, fishing boat is give way vessel. 

Not sure what International Regulations you are referring to but as the fishing boat is coming from starboard, he is the stand on vessel and the ferry is the give way vessel.

 

That said, if both vessels were paying attention, it should never have got to that stage.

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, GordonP said:

International Regulations for Prevention of Collision at Sea. Both are motor vessels, fishing boat is give way vessel. 

Wrong. The rule is that the vessel that has another vessel approaching from his right and on a potential collision course, must give way to that vessel.

 

When I did my helmsman's course we learned a little ditty:

 

'When his port light doth appear, 'tis your duty to keep clear'.

 

In this scenario, the ferry had the duty to avoid collision by steering to starboard (right) and going to the rear of the fishing boat.

[SunsetT]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

It is this level of fvckw!ttery which absolutely frightens me. 

 

Idiots like this drive lorrys, pickups, delivery vehicles. 

Then we have the ‘prettys’ in their hello-kittle monogramed Vios or Jazz in a perpetual state of Line Messaging.

The we have the entitled ‘I stop for no-one’ and tail-gate like a rhino-on-heat in their Camrys and Fortuna’s 

And of course we have the ‘can do no wrong I have right of way’ Merc & BMW’s... 

 

Thats most of the stereotypes and generalisations covered - but these stereotypes are borne somewhere and not wholly inaccurate. 

 

The level of stupidity, carelessness, lack of consequence and complete ignorance of the most basic of safety standards is a facet in every level of transport and society. It really is so disappointing that Thailand is unable to mature from its damning attitude towards basic safety measures. 

 

 

You forgot the grannies with parasols on motorbikes who take a diagonal line to every right turn and then round the corner completely on the wrong side of the road!

[richard_smith237]

53 minutes ago, Yinn said:

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

It is this level of fvckw!ttery which absolutely frightens me. 

 

Idiots like this drive lorrys, pickups, delivery vehicles. 

Then we have the ‘prettys’ in their hello-kittle monogramed Vios or Jazz in a perpetual state of Line Messaging.

The we have the entitled ‘I stop for no-one’ and tail-gate like a rhino-on-heat in their Camrys and Fortuna’s 

And of course we have the ‘can do no wrong I have right of way’ Merc & BMW’s... 

 

Thats most of the stereotypes and generalisations covered - but these stereotypes are borne somewhere and not wholly inaccurate. 

 

The level of stupidity, carelessness, lack of consequence and complete ignorance of the most basic of safety standards is a facet in every level of transport and society. It really is so disappointing that Thailand is unable to mature from its damning attitude towards basic safety measures. 

 

 

You forgot one.

The tourist rent the motorbike, no experience, no knowledge driving, no helmet and drunk.

Everyday in Phuket, Samui, Phangnga, Ko Phangan, Krabi, Chiang Mai, Pattaya etc 

It really is so disappointing that farang is unable to mature from its damning attitude towards safety measures.

 

Yes, but what you have kindly done for me is highlight the hideous attitude many Thai’s have to the issues presented. Instead of owning the problems you have deflected in a highly flawed attempt to minimise the significance of what is widely accepted to be one of the worst countries in the world when it comes to transport safety. Even the safety standards of your national airline have been condemned (FAA down graded TG’s safety rating).

 

People are idiots - you highlighted some of these idiots (tourists renting bikes), but how many of these tourists (idiots) contribute to the astronomically high death toll on Thailands roads? These same idiots are unable to ride scooters in many developed nations because they are adequately policed by a government mature enough to deal with issues face on rather than bury their head in the sand and suggest ‘but what about this’ or blame something else (deflection) much like you have done - its such a very Thai response to any issue involving thought (sorry for the bash, but you are proof of this pudding).

 

Thank you for your response in providing another facet of irresponsibility where Thailand and its lack of enforcement allows dumb tourists to flaunt the law and cement the fact that Thailand has an atrocious approach to safety.

 

Of course, the next response I would expect from a Thai would be ‘why live here if you have so much criticism of the place?’ which again, is just further deflection and would highlight further immaturity, so please don’t stoop, instead just accept that those of us with valid criticisms of Thailand love the place and our criticisms match very closely those of some of our Thai peers who are mature enough to recognise the issues without feeling the need to ’save face’ and ‘deflect’. 

 

 

 

Edited January 30, 2020 by richard_smith237

[Golden Triangle]

I can imagine the enquiry, boat captain " I was fully aware of my surroundings and this huge car ferry just appeared from nowhere sir" lol ????

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, Denim said:

My moneys on Line , Facebook or Lao Khao. Not necessarily in that order.

 

 

Mines on the poop deck....

[Jack P]

Must be hard to see those ferries approaching, what with only being visible a few kilometres away on a clear day.

[Jonathan Swift]

6 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

it's just a game of Thai chicken.

Thai Gai

[Captain 776]

Does Thailand require licenses for Captains of ferry and fishing vessels?

 

I am a licensed Captain by U S Coast Guard.

In USA if there is 1 paying passenger onboard you must have a minimum of an OUPV license.

That is the lowest ranking and allows you to ha 6 paying passengers.

Then they go from 50 Ton to Unlimited Master of the Ocean.

Not sure what if any regulations here but have sure read about a lot of boat accidents in my 15 ya here.

[HuaHinHim]

They both should face penalties and in real world arbitration in a maritime court they would each be apportioned a percentage of the blame. The ferry appears to be the give way vessel as far as I can tell in the video having the fishing boat on his starboard side being the stand on vessel, but, the fishing vessel seeing that the ferry was not giving way should have taken action to avoid a collision once it became obvious they were going to collide. Key words being in the real world! I will say this doesn't just happen in Thailand, I encounter it on a daily basis throughout SE Asia. Even the US Navy has had some bad collisions in the last few years that resulted in several deaths. So even professionals disobey the rules, sometimes they don't get away with it.  

[bander]

The trawler captain probably has a private issue with the ferry captain and tried to make a statement by collision at full speed. (I refuse to believe he didn't see the big ferry right in front of him)

We have already been warned repeatedly about roadrage, time to be careful with crazy captains at sea as well.

Is there any safe place left to travel in Thailand?

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, bander said:

The trawler captain probably has a private issue with the ferry captain and tried to make a statement by collision at full speed. (I refuse to believe he didn't see the big ferry right in front of him)

We have already been warned repeatedly about roadrage, time to be careful with crazy captains at sea as well.

Is there any safe place left to travel in Thailand?

 

You reckon they’d had an ongoing neighbourly feud involving where the washing line was placed and fumes from cooking going into the neighbours house? 

[EddieBaBaBoBo]

"When two power-driven vessels are crossing, so as to involve risk of collision, the vessel which has the other on her own starboard side shall keep out of the way and shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, avoid crossing ahead of the other vessel."

 

 

[richard_smith237]

19 minutes ago, EddieBaBaBoBo said:

"When two power-driven vessels are crossing, so as to involve risk of collision, the vessel which has the other on her own starboard side shall keep out of the way and shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, avoid crossing ahead of the other vessel."

 

 

 

(Edit: looks like the ferry should have given way)

 

But, this isn’t really an issue about giving way, its an issue about pure-f@ckwittery, placing innocents in danger - an ongoing issue in Thailand, Boats Busses, Lorries, Cars, Tourist on Motorcycles (thank-you Yinn), Grannies on scooters with parasols (thank you sunsetT).... 

Edited January 30, 2020 by richard_smith237

[ratcatcher]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

The local harbor master will meet the captains and crew of both vessels today to investigate what happened. 

 

The fishing boat captain will give a bow to the master of the ferry. The harbormaster will give the fishing vessel captain a stern reprimand  and order him to appear before the steering board before he leaves port. 

[rocksniffer]

Caused by climate change. LOL.

 

[brianthainess]

Scary, i use this ferry often, many trawlers come close, the ferry is a large vessel not so easy to change course ie take evasive action , this trawler was flat out, the ferry takes 40 min to cover approx 8 km. The captain would have been looking ahead and probably unaware the trawler was going to hit his stern .