webfact Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Bernard Madoff is dying, seeks early release from prison - lawyer By Jonathan Stempel FILE PHOTO: Bernard Madoff exits the Manhattan federal court house in New York in this January 14, 2009 file photo. REUTERS/Brendan McDermid NEW YORK (Reuters) - Bernard Madoff is dying of kidney failure and has fewer than 18 months to live, and is seeking to end his 150-year prison sentence for masterminding what prosecutors have called the largest Ponzi scheme ever. In a court filing on Wednesday, Madoff's lawyer said the 81-year-old is confined to a wheelchair, often requires oxygen, and suffers from cardiovascular disease, hypertension, insomnia and other chronic and serious medical conditions. Madoff is perhaps the most prominent federal prisoner to seek "compassionate release" under the First Step Act, a bipartisan law signed by U.S. President Donald Trump in 2018 that lets some older prisoners end their sentences early, often for health reasons. He had previously asked Trump to commute his sentence, but Trump had yet to act. A spokesman for U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman in Manhattan, whose office prosecuted Madoff, said that office will respond to the filing. Madoff's request will be considered by Circuit Judge Denny Chin, who called his crimes "extraordinarily evil" when he imposed the 150-year sentence in June 2009, three months after Madoff pleaded guilty to 11 criminal counts. Prosecutors said Madoff used his firm Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC to swindle thousands of individuals, charities, pension funds and hedge funds in a $64.8 billion (£49.89 billion) fraud. Many victims came from the Jewish community, where Madoff had been a major philanthropist. Madoff has been living at the federal prison complex in Butner, North Carolina, and was moved recently to a medical facility there. His lawyer, Brandon Sample, said in an interview that other prisoners referred Madoff to him, and that he had visited Madoff at Butner last summer. "Bernard Madoff is a broken man, and had a lot of personal loss," Sample said. "That's not to diminish the impact of his crimes on his victims, but there are larger ideals at work when we consider whether to show compassion on someone in their final days." Madoff has lost both his sons since being imprisoned. His older son, Mark Madoff, hanged himself with a dog leash in 2010, while Andrew Madoff died of cancer four years later. Sample said Madoff would likely live with a friend if granted compassionate release, and spend his remaining time "with the few people left in this world who care about him." Another longtime prisoner, former WorldCom Inc Chief Executive Bernard Ebbers, in December obtained early release because of health reasons from his 25-year sentence for orchestrating an accounting scandal at his phone company. Ebbers died on Sunday at age 78. (Reporting by Jonathan Stempel in New York; Editing by Dan Grebler and Matthew Lewis) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-02-06 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cricky Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, webfact said: Bernard Madoff is dying, seeks early release from prison We're all dying Seen this all before, early release and then miraculously they live for another 10 years. 22 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 why should he be let out just because he's old and dying. leave him there to rot .... imo 14 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, VYCM said: We're all dying Seen this all before, early release and then miraculously they live for another 10 years. And what about the many folks who invested in his fake scheme and lost all their wealth then died because they couldn't afford good medical care. Leave him in jail to suffer. 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, steven100 said: why should he be let out just because he's old and dying. leave him there to rot .... imo Steven have a heart, the poor man is dying, show just a little comassion.???? Just like he did for all the thousands of people he conned. For once i am in full agreement with you. 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I think that there is a point when many people because of age and medical conditions are no longer a threat to society. It's probably better to move them out of costly prison care and into less restrictive settings. If they are no longer a danger to society, there is little need for prison-care. I think probation type restrictions should still be in place restricting movement and activities. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted February 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just like this Harvey Weinstein how had no problems in vigor and energy abusing and harassing women and now all of a sudden he needs a walker to walk around... 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted February 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Scott said: I think that there is a point when many people because of age and medical conditions are no longer a threat to society. It's probably better to move them out of costly prison care and into less restrictive settings. If they are no longer a danger to society, there is little need for prison-care. I think probation type restrictions should still be in place restricting movement and activities. Don't agree at all. Not a threat to society is not the point at all. What it costs to keep him in prison is also not the point, not at all. He's in jail as punishment for the enormous damage he did to thousands of trusting people and he should stay there for both punishment and as a warning to others who might try the same scams. ' 13 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AussieBob18 Posted February 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) The reason a Judge gives 100+ years to anyone is to completely remove the possibility of parole - the Judge knew it was a death sentance and his decision should be respected. This is not someone sentenced to 20 or 30 years for a drug offence - he should be excluded from leniency. Maybe let him out to the carpark the day he is going to die - but if he doesnt die, then bring him straight back inside. Happy for that to occur multiple times. Thousands of lives were ruined by this scumbag - many took their own lives. Edited February 6, 2020 by AussieBob18 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crazy Alex Posted February 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Scott said: I think that there is a point when many people because of age and medical conditions are no longer a threat to society. It's probably better to move them out of costly prison care and into less restrictive settings. If they are no longer a danger to society, there is little need for prison-care. I think probation type restrictions should still be in place restricting movement and activities. I see your point. However, isn't the point of a 150-year or other extremely long sentence so that the perp dies in prison? It seems to me that at some point, we need to act on principle. Letting him out because it's cheaper is a pretty big slap in the face of the thousands of people he ripped off. On the other hand, I'm also a pretty pragmatic person. I just hope Madoff's victims at least get a chance to voice their thoughts on record before he is let out. Edited February 6, 2020 by Crazy Alex 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonray Posted February 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 F Him.....dying in prison is part of his life sentence 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CGW Posted February 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, AussieBob18 said: Thousands of lives were ruined by this scumbag - many took their own lives. Exactly, leave him where he is! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 John Malkovich “I don’t view it as a negative experience…," he told Details magazine in 2013. “To me it was, ‘You think you have a bunch of money – and you don’t.’ So what? Most people don’t (have a lot of money). I think it kind of reconnected me to how most people live all the time. And, unlike a lot of people that were involved in the Madoff thing, I could just go back to work, and it was fine.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) Spartacus has just beaten him to it. (Kirk Douglas has died aged 103) Edited February 6, 2020 by evadgib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallywag Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Likely he will get much better health care in prison than outside prison - at zero cost to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted February 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 I don't suppose many poor black men ,if any ,get released from prison because they are dying. regards worgeordie 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 52 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said: I see your point. However, isn't the point of a 150-year or other extremely long sentence so that the perp dies in prison? It seems to me that at some point, we need to act on principle. Letting him out because it's cheaper is a pretty big slap in the face of the thousands of people he ripped off. On the other hand, I'm also a pretty pragmatic person. I just hope Madoff's victims at least get a chance to voice their thoughts on record before he is let out. If I were inclined to get worked up over any issue, this wouldn't be it. I don't know that many of us get to exit this world on our own terms, so either way is fine with me. I'd just as soon see the least amount of cost to the taxpayers. I suspect we are getting a lot of prisoners who have really passed their danger-to-society date and are doing little more than taking up rather expensive space. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted February 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 58 minutes ago, Scott said: I think that there is a point when many people because of age and medical conditions are no longer a threat to society. It's probably better to move them out of costly prison care and into less restrictive settings. If they are no longer a danger to society, there is little need for prison-care. I think probation type restrictions should still be in place restricting movement and activities. While agreeing with the basis of your argument I think it neglects the continuing suffering of Madoff’s victims. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted February 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 Imo leave that sob right we’re he is he ruined a lot of lives 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Pravda said: John Malkovich “I don’t view it as a negative experience…," he told Details magazine in 2013. “To me it was, ‘You think you have a bunch of money – and you don’t.’ So what? Most people don’t (have a lot of money). I think it kind of reconnected me to how most people live all the time. And, unlike a lot of people that were involved in the Madoff thing, I could just go back to work, and it was fine.” John Malkovitch has a few options others did not and perhaps wished to play down the fact he’ even had. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I don’t understand reveling in the cruelty of Madoff’s sentence/prospect of death in prison. Madoff’s crime drove his son to take his own life, there’s enough cruelty in that for any man to bear. I prefer to think of his sentence as a matter of fact, by no means unjust and way behind a lot of sentences that need to be repealed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AussieBob18 Posted February 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, Scott said: If I were inclined to get worked up over any issue, this wouldn't be it. I don't know that many of us get to exit this world on our own terms, so either way is fine with me. I'd just as soon see the least amount of cost to the taxpayers. I suspect we are getting a lot of prisoners who have really passed their danger-to-society date and are doing little more than taking up rather expensive space. That is not the point - a prison sentance is for two reasons. Punishment for the guilty and Deterrent for others. The fact that it costs money to detain people is irrelevant. That some people are worthy of early release is valid, but their ongoing costs are irrelevant in making any decision. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, scorecard said: And what about the many folks who invested in his fake scheme Let him out, but have his victims as his carers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricky Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, worgeordie said: I don't suppose many poor black men ,if any ,get released from prison because they are dying. regards worgeordie It would depend on how rich they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: Bernard Madoff is dying, seeks early release from prison - lawyer **** that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: Madoff has been living at the federal prison complex in Butner, North Carolina, Well, I'm sure that those whom he has defrauded and who are still sufficiently fit to make the trip are currently heading there in their droves to express their deep regret and "true" sadness at his "tragic" health plight by flooding the surrounding neighbourhood with their inconsolable tears. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 59 minutes ago, AussieBob18 said: That is not the point - a prison sentance is for two reasons. Punishment for the guilty and Deterrent for others. The fact that it costs money to detain people is irrelevant. That some people are worthy of early release is valid, but their ongoing costs are irrelevant in making any decision. At least the costs should be irrelevant. Prisoner release driven by cost cutting policies hasn’t worked out well recently in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Bernard Madoff is dying who isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Skallywag said: Likely he will get much better health care in prison than outside prison - at zero cost to him. Probably true, but that's not the point, is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Skallywag said: Likely he will get much better health care in prison than outside prison - at zero cost to him. Not convinced about that, the finest doctors don't work in prisons, they work for the big $$$, something I'm sure this scumbag still has access too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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