UK plans to introduce border controls on EU goods after post-Brexit transition

[david555]

10 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Its not really important for pensioners to be able to speak the language of where they live 

You don't understand my point....

 

Important or not it could be same power of taking control on E.U. side ….or is it only the Brits who may do whatever they want on their country ? …. so not the Europeans ….?

Remember we are now entering a PingPong negotiation diplomacy  aka chessboard ….

Edited February 19, 2020 by david555

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, david555 said:

You don't understand my point....

 

Important or not it could be same power of taking control on E.U. side ….or is it only the Brits who may do whatever they want on their country ? …. so not the Europeans ….?

Remember we are now entering a PingPong negotiation diplomacy  aka chessboard ….

Correct , I have no idea what you mean .

I tried to understand your last bold sentence , but cannot work out what you mean 

[vogie]

29 minutes ago, bannork said:

The fact is only 37% of the electorate bothered to vote for Brexit. Who knows which way those who didn't vote would have chosen?

But no one can say the majority of the British people voted for Brexit.

They didn't.

The top and bottom of it is that babies and the young cannot vote, so that takes them out of the equation, so away with your repetitive nonsense, it serves no purpose, it only tries to twist and deceive. The EU referendum was one of the biggest turnouts by the electorate and you know it. 

You cannot keep beating yourself up forever, you must, as must a lot on here learn to accept the result of a democratic referendum.

 

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

The top and bottom of it is that babies and the young cannot vote,

 

Yeah..................but the babies would have voted to Remain .....if you asked them .

[david555]

9 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Correct , I have no idea what you mean .

I tried to understand your last bold sentence , but cannot work out what you mean 

Simple said …. what one side do, the others side can do too to them , that is what it meant 

Edited February 19, 2020 by david555

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

Simple said …. what one side to the others side can do too , that is what it meant 

Cannot .

The UK can make rules that state persons must be fluent in the English language .

Due to the E.U having various different languages, they cannot make any rules requiring persons to speak any specific language 

[david555]

11 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Cannot .

The UK can make rules that state persons must be fluent in the English language .

Due to the E.U having various different languages, they cannot make any rules requiring persons to speak any specific language 

Yes we have t the obligation for officials to speak the country language(s) , but for be easy we do understand English ….up to the point we don't want anymore , then it could be we don't understand anymore , fully legal....

Pensioners in hospitals could expect to be understandable in English …. but it is not a right ,  the doctor or nurse or police or any official is not forced to understand or speak English , only their local country language(s)

 

 

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[sanemax]

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[david555]

9 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Removed as poster posted and removed a wrong tread  

 

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[Chelseafan]

On 2/11/2020 at 2:57 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe have look at this interesting article and maybe think again:

 

Boris Johnson’s hard line on trade could sink the UK’s fishing fleet

The sort of minimal deal he is after would be a disaster for an industry that relies on frictionless trade

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/09/boris-johnson-trade-uk-fishing-fleet-industry

 

Anything coming from the left-wing anti-BREXIT Guardian has to be treated with a pinch of salt.

 

There is going to be a lot of rhetoric and chest-beating from both sides over the next few months. Let's see what the end product is in December.

 

Personally I think that we will be abiding with EU regulations, certainly in business anyhow as it makes sense to do so.

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by Chelseafan

[sanemax]

14 minutes ago, david555 said:

,  the doctor or nurse or police or any official is not forced to understand or speak English , only their local country language(s)

 

 

Yes that is what the UK wants as well .

For people living in the UK to speak English .

Seems that its the same in your Country , people are required to speak the local language  

[david555]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Yes that is what the UK wants as well .

For people living in the UK to speak English .

Seems that its the same in your Country , people are required to speak the local language  

But we don't refuse them access or living as long they make themselves understandable (and yes most of official from administration have basic English VOLUNTAIRLY ) 

If they can not or wish not it is the local language ….. hence before my direction to British pensioners in Europe in case more super right wing laws would be voted .

But it is your rights …. same as it is ours to enforce same from our side languages

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

But we don't refuse them access or living as long they make themselves understandable (and yes most of official from administration have basic English VOLUNTAIRLY ) 

If they can not or wish not it is the local language ….. hence before my direction to British pensioners in Europe in case more super right wing laws would be voted .

But it is your rights …. same as it is ours to enforce same from our side languages

If a person wants to emigrate and live and work in the UK, they should be able to communicate with people in the ways of speaking English 

[david555]

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

If a person wants to emigrate and live and work in the UK, they should be able to communicate with people in the ways of speaking English 

Right  and same could be asked for those who like to emigrate or retire , stay in any of the  EU 27 country speaking the local country language  … Not ?

Edited February 19, 2020 by david555

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

Right  and same could be asked for those who like to emigrate or retire , stay in any of the  EU 27 country speaking the local country language  … Not ?

Its not that important for a retiree to learn the language , as they do not interact with the locals as much as a person who would be working there 

[melvinmelvin]

 

dunno which, funny - strange - tragic,

that people here are still busy counting votes and calculating percentages following

the voting that Cameron arranged some years ago

 

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by melvinmelvin
typo

[sandyf]

15 hours ago, vogie said:

So what are you trying to say, 

Obviously understanding is proving to be difficult, much easier to bring up something else.

[vinny41]

Portugal considers subsidising UK tourists' post-Brexit healthcare

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/18/portugal-uk-tourists-post-brexit-healthcare-ehic

[david555]

5 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Its not that important for a retiree to learn the language , as they do not interact with the locals as much as a person who would be working there 

You deflect the case again …., that ones right is equal to the other , of course if you go work for a boss he can ask what capacity's he want .

Mi line is about country 's right  including yours , to be equal to any other country as Brits do

Edited February 19, 2020 by david555

[david555]

3 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Portugal considers subsidising UK tourists' post-Brexit healthcare

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/18/portugal-uk-tourists-post-brexit-healthcare-ehic

yes as they consider their money from tourism …. we see how this evolves , seems Europeans are more left than far  right this times 

Edited February 19, 2020 by david555

[Nigel Garvie]

22 minutes ago, sanemax said:

If a person wants to emigrate and live and work in the UK, they should be able to communicate with people in the ways of speaking English 

Seems fair enough to me, I guess almost all of them want to anyway, not much of a life if you don't.

Obviously they can't all start off with perfect English, indeed many of the locals struggle to produce that!

 

The New Thai Visa requirements will  (Quite reasonably on this basis) require all retirees to speak at least basic Thai.  Kwam Kit Dee Mai?

Edited February 19, 2020 by Nigel Garvie

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

You deflect the case again …., that ones right is equal to the other , of course if you go work for a boss he can ask what capacity's he want .

Mi line is about country 's right  including yours , to be equal to any other country as Brits do

No defection at all 

I am just pointing out the differences between the differing requirements of a person working in a Country and a person retiring in a Country .

Workers should be required to speak the local language , and its not necessary for retirees to speak the local language .

[david555]

2 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Seems fair enough to me, I guess almost all of them want to anyway, not much of a life if you don't.

Obviously they can't all start off with perfect English, indeed many of the locals struggle to produce that!

 

The New Thai Visa requirements will  (Quite reasonably on this basis) require all retiree to seek at least basis Thai.  Kwam Kit Dee Mai?

Agreed with that, but seems we on the other side  not , same same but different , not U.K. so may not ask the same from the ones emigrating to E.U27 ?

[vinny41]

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

yes as they consider their money from tourism …. we see how this evolves , seems Europeans re more left than far  right this times 

Yes the launched a campaign last year to entice Brits back

Last year’s Brelcome campaign, advertising the country’s 850km (530-mile) coastline, food and sunshine, helped reverse a 2018 decrease in British tourist numbers after a six-year boom.

https://www.visitportugal.com/en/content/brelcome

[david555]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

No defection at all 

I am just pointing out the differences between the differing requirements of a person working in a Country and a person retiring in a Country .

Workers should be required to speak the local language , and its not necessary for retirees to speak the local language .

Once again you deny equal rights  , work or retirement...., rules are for both applicable

Edited February 19, 2020 by david555

[bannork]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

What percentage of the UK population voted to Remain ?

It was less than 37 %

True, but I'm bored of Brexiteers claiming the majority of the UK citizens voted for Brexit. They never did 

[sanemax]

Just now, bannork said:

True, but I'm bored of Brexiteers claiming the majority of the UK citizens voted for Brexit. They never did 

Well, from the people whom voted, the majority of Brits who voted, voted to Leave .

All polls, you can only count the people who voted .

   You cannot add the people who didnt vote to the poll results as you want to do

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

Once again you deny equal rights  , work or retirement...., rules are for both applicable

No, the rules are different because of the differing needs 

[vinny41]

5 minutes ago, david555 said:

Once again you deny equal rights  , work or retirement...., rules are for both applicable

Good Luck with that you will need the EU to tear up the freedom of movement principle as your appear to be saying a French national can't live or work in Germany unless they speak German or a German national unable to live or work in France unless they speak French

[david555]

Just now, sanemax said:

No, the rules are different because of the differing needs 

HAHAHA tell that to our politicians,...… so you can do on U.K. soil whatever ….that's correct !

 

But we could not do on our soil what we find correct …… don't let me laugh ! There could be plenty reasons practical and even just respecting the local language ..

 

Let stop this discussion as we are not a colony from U.K ...