UK plans to introduce border controls on EU goods after post-Brexit transition

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

 

 

Daniel Boffey in Brussels

Mon 17 Feb 2020 19.35 GMT

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/17/britain-wont-follow-eu-trade-rules-after-brexit-says-uks-chief-negotiator

I don't think it has dawned on the EU that we are leaving, what is wrong with them, we don't want to be following any of their laws, that was the whole point of Brexit, do you think they will ever get it. We are not just out, we are out out. Their cash cow will be moving to greener pastures so we can cut back on the milking. Wake up EU.????

[david555]

Just now, vogie said:

I don't think it has dawned on the EU that we are leaving, what is wrong with them, we don't want to be following any of their laws, that was the whole point of Brexit, do you think they will ever get it. We are not just out, we are out out. Their cash cow will be moving to greener pastures so we can cut back on the milking. Wake up EU.????

It dawned very clear already , only it don't dawn on U.K. side what the E.U. have said already 3+ years and never changed position and never shall  …. ????

 

Welcome WTO aka Kangaroo deal U.K.

[vogie]

We don't care what the EU says, we have made our position very clear, it is up to them whether they want to negotiate or dictate, our new man is not Olly Robbins.

[david555]

16 minutes ago, vogie said:

We don't care what the EU says, we have made our position very clear, it is up to them whether they want to negotiate or dictate, our new man is not Olly Robbins.

Hence my line ……..Why even come Brussels  and sit down U.K....?  E.U. made clear it wont change stance ...

It did not dawned yet your 3+ years trying did not changed anything ... ?

Edited February 18, 2020 by david555

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

We don't care what the EU says, we have made our position very clear, it is up to them whether they want to negotiate or dictate, our new man is not Olly Robbins.

Its the UK that trying to dictate. All feed by the belief in British exceptionalism. The EU has not changed its position since before the referendum. They set out what the position would be. The UK still does not know what its position is.

Brexiteers refused to believe it because "They need us more than we need them".

Turns out that was wrong.

[samran]

28 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

The UK still does not know what its position is.

Maybe the ‘true blue’ pure bred native Brits on this thread can tell us? 555

Edited February 18, 2020 by samran

[pixelaoffy]

6 minutes ago, samran said:

Maybe the ‘true blue’ pure bred native Brits on this thread can tell us? 555

TrueBlue and former Red wall members!  If the EU want to behave in the way it is! Barnier et al that's fine ! UK does what it has to! Now you europhiles who arent " pure bred ". Maybe "half cast", can go to one of the failing project states

[pixelaoffy]

Wait for EU governments,whose economies would suffer badly with tariffs, to pressure EU mafia leadership! And if nothing happens ,fine! The project is terrified of a successful trading nation on its doorstep 

[vogie]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Its the UK that trying to dictate. All feed by the belief in British exceptionalism. The EU has not changed its position since before the referendum. They set out what the position would be. The UK still does not know what its position is.

Brexiteers refused to believe it because "They need us more than we need them".

Turns out that was wrong.

I appreciate nothing will ever change your opinion of your beloved EU. As for quoting "They need us more than we need them" that remains to be seen, I don't see the UK running around like headless chickens trying to balance the books like the leaders of the EU are doing, sorry if I upset your feelings by saying something possitive about the UK, I know how much it must hurt you.

[bannork]

Nothing but bad news for the Brexiteers at present.

Donald furious with Boris over Huawei, now Boris is not going to the US till at least June.

Aussie reps shun the UK, and the Japanese have said no deal with the UK until the UK's trading position with the EU is settled. 

In other words the EU is more important.

So which other big economies to rival the EU can we quickly strike up a 'good deal' with?

Um......China! Yea 

 

[vogie]

1 hour ago, david555 said:

Hence my line ……..Why even come Brussels  and sit down U.K....?  E.U. made clear it wont change stance ...

It did not dawned yet your 3+ years trying did not changed anything ... ?

Are you happy about the EU stance, do you want the talks to fail, is it in the interest of future talks to dictate to the other side before even saying bonjour. But if nothing else David you are putting a brave face on things, that's the spirit.????????

[sandyf]

On 2/16/2020 at 7:10 PM, nauseus said:

What news? There is nothing there. Just more PF.

Another stock answer to anything the brexiteers do not like.

It was supposed to be the easiest trade deal in history, but of course it will be maintained that the FT or any other media are quoting something that never got said.

“I think that on trade issues and the mechanism for future relations, which we are going to start on, we are going to rip each other apart,” said Jean-Yves Le Drian at the Munich security conference. “But that is part of negotiations: everyone will defend their own interests.”

https://www.ft.com/content/f29c5b3c-50d8-11ea-90ad-25e377c0ee1f

 

It is Bojo way or the highway.

 

Talks will start in earnest next month, with negotiations expected to take place in both Brussels and London. Boris Johnson has said he would rather leave without a trade agreement and trade on WTO terms than follow EU rules.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-deal-talks-uk-eu-boris-johnson-news-a9332316.html

 

And talking about highway, or should it be sloway.

 

The government is bracing for Brexit disruption at the end of the year with £60m plans for a moveable concrete barrier to prevent traffic jams sparked by cross-Channel chaos.

Transport secretary Grant Shapps confirmed that no-deal plans for metal barriers on the M20 motorway in Kent have been scrapped in favour of a San Francisco-style moveable barrier.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-travel-disruption-channel-roads-barriers-m20-grant-shapps-a9339781.html

[pixelaoffy]

Just remember what this arrogant bureaucratic configuration of states wants. It's basically saying " trade with us and abide by " regulatory allignment" that's our rules. Ok that's fine but when you (UK) trade with other countries you have to also abide by our "EU rules".  So you can see why any self respecting country is going to say "**** off" . The EU don't even want to allow UK to have a deal that's similar to Canada and other free trading states! All you need to know about how this corrupt 50 year project will die!

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

Nothing but bad news for the Brexiteers at present.

Donald furious with Boris over Huawei, now Boris is not going to the US till at least June.

Aussie reps shun the UK, and the Japanese have said no deal with the UK until the UK's trading position with the EU is settled. 

In other words the EU is more important.

So which other big economies to rival the EU can we quickly strike up a 'good deal' with?

Um......China! Yea 

 

You mean we could end up with the same trade deal that the EU has with the US, China and Australia? ????

 

Imagine that...

[sandyf]

18 minutes ago, vogie said:

I don't see the UK running around like headless chickens trying to balance the books like the leaders of the EU are doing,

Of course you don't.

Bojo has taken over the treasury to keep all that out of sight. Nothing short of delusion to think that the UK won the lottery with brexit.

[sandyf]

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You mean we could end up with the same trade deal that the EU has with the US, China and Australia? ????

 

Imagine that...

No need to imagine anything, some of us remember what it was like - a huge deterrent to trade.

[vogie]

1 minute ago, sandyf said:

Of course you don't.

Bojo has taken over the treasury to keep all that out of sight. Nothing short of delusion to think that the UK won the lottery with brexit.

It's called democracy Sandy and look on the bright side, it could as easily been John McDonnell, that must lift your spirits.

[david555]

14 minutes ago, vogie said:

Are you happy about the EU stance, do you want the talks to fail, is it in the interest of future talks to dictate to the other side before even saying bonjour. But if nothing else David you are putting a brave face on things, that's the spirit.????????

Thank You Vogie ,at least you understand me , I am not trying to keep your U.K. shackled …. only defending our cake ….and avoiding you to eat it …

Bake your own cake and  eat that one  ! ????

[david555]

13 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Of course you don't.

Bojo has taken over the treasury to keep all that out of sight. Nothing short of delusion to think that the UK won the lottery with brexit.

True words spoken as chosen Javid replacement by this obedient Sunak one ….. 5555

More Trumpitis in Boris behavior 

Edited February 18, 2020 by david555

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

Thank You Vogie ,at least you understand me , I am not trying to keep your U.K. shackled …. only defending our cake ….and avoiding you to eat it …

Bake your own cake and  eat that one  ! ????

We ate the EU cake for decades and well, let's just say we won't miss it.

 

[david555]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

We ate the EU cake for decades and well, let's just say we won't miss it.

 

Why than all the efforts 

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, david555 said:

Thank You Vogie ,at least you understand me , I am not trying to keep your U.K. shackled …. only defending our cake ….and avoiding you to eat it …

Bake your own cake and  eat that one  ! ????

But you have lost one of the biggest slices of your cake, the slice we have taken with us is about the same size as your cake, the main difference is that you have more mouths to feed with your cake and before long all you will be left with is a pile of crumbs.????????

[david555]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

But you have lost one of the biggest slices of your cake, the slice we have taken with us is about the same size as your cake, the main difference is that you have more mouths to feed with your cake and before long all you will be left with is a pile of crumbs.????????

Keep dreaming and trying on (!?)…..that's why U.K. is still on table negotiating and a " vasal transition" speaks books  library 's ……. man up.., and walk away if you have the guts & balls ….????. but no way still thinking Imperialistic way to get done what your hoping for …..????

(cant blame you ...it is in the genes from history … but no more working present day's….)

[Opl]

2 hours ago, vogie said:

We don't care what the EU says, we have made our position very clear, it is up to them whether they want to negotiate or dictate, our new man is not Olly Robbins.

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

Keep dreaming and trying on (!?)…..that's why U.K. is still on table negotiating and a " vasal transition" speaks books  library 's ……. man up.., and walk away if you have the guts & balls ….????. but no way still thinking Imperialistic way to get done what your hoping for …..????

(cant blame you ...it is in the genes from history … but no more working present day's….)

It does appear that we will "man up.., and walk away if you have the guts & balls …." 

 

Custard creams anyone.

[nauseus]

52 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Another stock answer to anything the brexiteers do not like.

It was supposed to be the easiest trade deal in history, but of course it will be maintained that the FT or any other media are quoting something that never got said.

“I think that on trade issues and the mechanism for future relations, which we are going to start on, we are going to rip each other apart,” said Jean-Yves Le Drian at the Munich security conference. “But that is part of negotiations: everyone will defend their own interests.”

https://www.ft.com/content/f29c5b3c-50d8-11ea-90ad-25e377c0ee1f

 

It is Bojo way or the highway.

 

Talks will start in earnest next month, with negotiations expected to take place in both Brussels and London. Boris Johnson has said he would rather leave without a trade agreement and trade on WTO terms than follow EU rules.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-deal-talks-uk-eu-boris-johnson-news-a9332316.html

 

And talking about highway, or should it be sloway.

 

The government is bracing for Brexit disruption at the end of the year with £60m plans for a moveable concrete barrier to prevent traffic jams sparked by cross-Channel chaos.

Transport secretary Grant Shapps confirmed that no-deal plans for metal barriers on the M20 motorway in Kent have been scrapped in favour of a San Francisco-style moveable barrier.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-travel-disruption-channel-roads-barriers-m20-grant-shapps-a9339781.html

My "stock answer" was fair comment on bannork's link in post 440, which was essentially fact less - similar to the loopy PF links above.

[bannork]

The nightmare gets nearer.

https://twnews.co.uk/gb-news/apos-no-time-to-lose-apos-food-importers-tell-boris-johnson-to-act-to-prevent-price-hikes-and-shortages-from-hard-brexit

[pixelaoffy]

33 minutes ago, bannork said:

The nightmare gets nearer.

https://twnews.co.uk/gb-news/apos-no-time-to-lose-apos-food-importers-tell-boris-johnson-to-act-to-prevent-price-hikes-and-shortages-from-hard-brexit

Keep buying the "Remain loser beverages" Haha  plenty of markets to buy food from around the world, and UK will built up to being more self sufficient. That'll <deleted> you off wont it!

[bristolboy]

11 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

Keep buying the "Remain loser beverages" Haha  plenty of markets to buy food from around the world, and UK will built up to being more self sufficient. That'll <deleted> you off wont it!

You understand the intricacies of the food import business better than those who actually are engaged in it? It's clear that what you are engaged in is faith-based forecasting. Can you also tell us the date of Jesus' return?

[Rookiescot]

4 hours ago, vogie said:

I appreciate nothing will ever change your opinion of your beloved EU. As for quoting "They need us more than we need them" that remains to be seen, I don't see the UK running around like headless chickens trying to balance the books like the leaders of the EU are doing, sorry if I upset your feelings by saying something possitive about the UK, I know how much it must hurt you.

Every single sentence in that post is wrong.