UK plans to introduce border controls on EU goods after post-Brexit transition

[sandyf]

3 hours ago, vogie said:

It's called democracy Sandy and look on the bright side, it could as easily been John McDonnell, that must lift your spirits.

Wrong, it is called autocracy, but then you would have to be able to recognise the subversive intent. Very difficult through those rose tinted glasses.

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

You understand the intricacies of the food import business better than those who actually are engaged in it? It's clear that what you are engaged in is faith-based forecasting. Can you also tell us the date of Jesus' return?

I am not sure about Jesus, but Moses apparently returned on 13th December last year. He's going to lead the Children of Brexit to the promised land.

[bannork]

8 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

I am not sure about Jesus, but Moses apparently returned on 13th December last year. He's going to lead the Children of Brexit to the promised land.

He promised the children of the UK quite a few things over the years.

Unfortunately they didn't work out.

Crossrail -3 years late and 650 million pounds over budget.

The Boris buses- cost over 300 million pounds.

The Cable Car- cost 60 million pounds, used regularly by just 4 commuters.

The Garden Bridge, a failed project costing £53m, including £43m of public money.

Boris island airort project- never built, millions of pounds wasted on promoting a project far, far beyond his estimates.

The water cannons sold for scrap at a loss of 300,000 pounds.

Boris is not the new Moses, he's just a very naughty boy.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, bannork said:

The nightmare gets nearer.

https://twnews.co.uk/gb-news/apos-no-time-to-lose-apos-food-importers-tell-boris-johnson-to-act-to-prevent-price-hikes-and-shortages-from-hard-brexit

source:  Independent

 

 

[sandyf]

Will democratic consent "snap" when the UK is forced to accept US rules, or Canada rules, or Australian rules etc etc.

The thin end of the wedge.

 

The prime minister’s Europe adviser will argue that the UK’s standards of regulation are often higher than the EU and that democratic consent “would snap” if either side was forced to accept the other’s rules.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-eu-trade-deals-talks-latest-a9341076.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=INDNEWS%2318022020&utm_term=IND_Headlines_Masterlist_CDP

[pixelaoffy]

4 hours ago, bristolboy said:

You understand the intricacies of the food import business better than those who actually are engaged in it? It's clear that what you are engaged in is faith-based forecasting. Can you also tell us the date of Jesus' return?

well must be from Bristol UK up the road from my old home. The "Bristol Bubble Bunch" we called them  In their own fantasy world . Just as that comment you made proves

[pixelaoffy]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

source:  Independent

 

 

the Independent in the Uk is anything but "independent" a failed remain europhile rag that had to cease a printed edition and spouts its nonsense wholly online

[pixelaoffy]

None of you europhiles  can respond to the "  EU dictat"  that is  if you want to trade with EU "Abide by OUR rules and courts when trading with EU countries and also when you trade with non EU countries" .. Sunk you all with that one fact !

Edited February 18, 2020 by pixelaoffy

[Rookiescot]

22 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

None of you europhiles  can respond to the "  EU dictat"  that is  if you want to trade with EU "Abide by OUR rules and courts when trading with EU countries and also when you trade with non EU countries" .. Sunk you all with that one fact !

Why should the EU change its rules to suit the UK?

Oh yeah its because of English exceptionalism. 

Not going to happen. You Brexiteers need to realise the UK is a small country with a small manufacturing base (thanks Thatcher) that is going to get even smaller.

But thats OK because thats what you voted for.

[sanemax]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

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The Cable Car- cost 60 million pounds, used regularly by just 4 commuters.

 

That was built for the Olympics and it was profitable .

Notice you just use the regular commuters and not the people who use it but not regularly to give a distorted view 

[nauseus]

43 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

the Independent in the Uk is anything but "independent" a failed remain europhile rag that had to cease a printed edition and spouts its nonsense wholly online

I knew that.

[pixelaoffy]

EU going down the crapper 

[billd766]

9 hours ago, david555 said:

Hence my line ……..Why even come Brussels  and sit down U.K....?  E.U. made clear it wont change stance ...

It did not dawned yet your 3+ years trying did not changed anything ... ?

Wasn't that the time that Teresa May was PM? A Remainer PM who supposedly said many times that the UK will exit the EU by a certain date and then extended the date twice more. The same PM who said that a no deal was better than a bad deal. The same PM who nearly lost an election and ended up with a reduced majority? The same PM who tried 3 times to get her Brexit deal through parliament and failed every time.

 

Of course the EU wasn't surprised or concerned and didn't even bother to change stance.

 

In December the UK had yet another election and Boris was re-elected with a Brexit mandate and an overwhelming majority and went ahead with it. He told the EU that the UK had formally served notice that the UK would leave by 31st December 2020 and we will, deal or no deal.

 

Now the EU is waking up to the fact that they cannot push the UK PM around any more.

 

Yet their are remainers like you and a few others on TVF who still cannot accept that you have lost and still long for the "glory days" when the EU told the UK what to do. Sadly you cannot seem to believe or accept the fact that the light at the end of the tunnel is not a train coming the other way, but the light that says we are out and we will stay out.

[samran]

9 hours ago, JonnyF said:

You mean we could end up with the same trade deal that the EU has with the US, China and Australia? ????

 

Imagine that...

Don’t need to imagine. The brave new world of global trading with

awaits you!

 

Australian coal banned from China

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Chinese-ports-impose-indefinite-ban-on-Australian-coal

Australian wine not processed at Chinese ports 

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/australian-wine-shipments-held-up-at-chinese-ports-amid-political-tensions-report-20180615-p4zloj.html

 

Chinese tour groups banned from visiting Korea

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40565119

The future is indeed bright!

 

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by samran

[candide]

44 minutes ago, samran said:

Don’t need to imagine. The brave new world of global trading with

awaits you!

 

Australian coal banned from China

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Chinese-ports-impose-indefinite-ban-on-Australian-coal

Australian wine not processed at Chinese ports 

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/australian-wine-shipments-held-up-at-chinese-ports-amid-political-tensions-report-20180615-p4zloj.html

 

Chinese tour groups banned from visiting Korea

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40565119

The future is indeed bright!

 

 

You forgot these:

https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-china-post-brexit-relationship-threatened-by-south-china-sea-showdown-2018-9

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/china-cancels-trade-talks-with-uk-over-warship-threat

 

[pixelaoffy]

6 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Every single sentence in that post is wrong.

 

As the famous quote goes " you would say that wouldn't you " loser 

Edited February 18, 2020 by pixelaoffy

[samran]

24 minutes ago, candide said:

You forgot these:

https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-china-post-brexit-relationship-threatened-by-south-china-sea-showdown-2018-9

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/china-cancels-trade-talks-with-uk-over-warship-threat

 

Don’t worry, the back to the future crowd are already preparing a clipper to take up the pearl river and show those Chinese some english pluck. 
 

Sing with me! ‘One World Cup and two world wars, do dah, do dah’...

Edited February 18, 2020 by samran

[david555]

(And here a warming up for the Brexit boys.... )

 

Daniel Boffey in Brussels

Tue 18 Feb 2020 13.36 GMT

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/18/uk-brexit-negotiator-britain-eu-different-planets

UK Brexit negotiator accused of treating Britain and EU as 'two different planets'

Verhofstadt says it would be a ‘hell of a job’ to achieve success using David Frost’s approach

 

 

Boris Johnson’s chief Brexit negotiator has been accused of treating the EU and the UK as if they are “living on two different planets” after vowing to break all regulatory ties with Brussels.

Guy Verhofstadt, the former Belgian prime minister who has led the European parliament’s approach to Brexit, said it would be a “hell of a job” to secure a successful outcome from the negotiation using the British approach.

“It’s not a good thing that we continue to discuss the future relationship as if the UK and Europe are living on two different planets because the UK market and the market are so close to each other – physically, geographically,” Verhofstadt told reporters during a joint press conference with Sadiq Khan. “And so, these things are so intense that we have to look at it in a little bit of a different way than to simply say, this is a pure free trade deal.”

 

 

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by david555

[david555]

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

Wasn't that the time that Teresa May was PM? A Remainer PM who supposedly said many times that the UK will exit the EU by a certain date and then extended the date twice more. The same PM who said that a no deal was better than a bad deal. The same PM who nearly lost an election and ended up with a reduced majority? The same PM who tried 3 times to get her Brexit deal through parliament and failed every time.

 

Of course the EU wasn't surprised or concerned and didn't even bother to change stance.

 

In December the UK had yet another election and Boris was re-elected with a Brexit mandate and an overwhelming majority and went ahead with it. He told the EU that the UK had formally served notice that the UK would leave by 31st December 2020 and we will, deal or no deal.

 

Now the EU is waking up to the fact that they cannot push the UK PM around any more.

 

Yet their are remainers like you and a few others on TVF who still cannot accept that you have lost and still long for the "glory days" when the EU told the UK what to do. Sadly you cannot seem to believe or accept the fact that the light at the end of the tunnel is not a train coming the other way, but the light that says we are out and we will stay out.

Do you really in all honesty believe that Boris 80 seats majority make impression on E.U. matter? Like I said before a few miles out of the Cliffs of Dover that 80 seats  fades ….on E.U. soil ????

 

Now  the politic leader of E.U. has not the advantage May had  , E.U. considering her difficult power status in HOC …..now Boris  , no pity …, white cotton gloves are off …… only seems U.K brexiteers boys don't get it yet ????

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, pixelaoffy said:

As the famous quote goes " you would say that wouldn't you " loser 

The biggest loser is going to be the UK.

And you voted for it.

[TheDark]

On 2/15/2020 at 11:22 AM, bannork said:

A hilarious Cabinet meeting where teacher Boris checks his students' answers.

 

Eager kids to please their teacher around the table. 

 

This is how kids behave. Not how adults running a country behave. Unfortunately.

 

But that's the new reality, where experts are deemed boring. Where facts are falsified. 

 

England, you are truly led by donkeys. It's a real shame. 

 

What is truly worrying. That Trump like blonde donkey, who was also born in New York City, has by now written letters and given instructions to all UK's nuclear submarines, what to do, where to target fusion bomb tipped missiles in case these boomers can not contact homebase. 

 

That is the real power Boris Alexander actually holds. 

[vogie]

28 minutes ago, david555 said:

Do you really in all honesty believe that Boris 80 seats majority make impression on E.U. matter? Like I said before a few miles out of the Cliffs of Dover that 80 seats  fades ….on E.U. soil ????

 

Now  the politic leader of E.U. has not the advantage May had  , E.U. considering her difficult power status in HOC …..now Boris  , no pity …, white cotton gloves are off …… only seems U.K brexiteers boys don't get it yet ????

Of course Boris Johnsons 80 seat majority makes a difference, when May was running the show all we got from the likes of Barnier, Verhofstadt and Tusk was snide remarks and sarcastic comments, we sure aint getting that now, I wonder what has changed, oh I know Johnsons 80 seat majority.

The EU are bricking it wondering how they can bridge that gap, and it'll take more than a Cadburys Snack to bridge it.

[david555]

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

Of course Boris Johnsons 80 seat majority makes a difference, when May was running the show all we got from the likes of Barnier, Verhofstadt and Tusk was snide remarks and sarcastic comments, we sure aint getting that now, I wonder what has changed, oh I know Johnsons 80 seat majority.

The EU are bricking it wondering how they can bridge that gap, and it'll take more than a Cadburys Snack to bridge it.

O.K. you still don't get it …..????  short time shall tell you the different approach result 

[vogie]

6 hours ago, sandyf said:

Will democratic consent "snap" when the UK is forced to accept US rules, or Canada rules, or Australian rules etc etc.

The thin end of the wedge.

 

The prime minister’s Europe adviser will argue that the UK’s standards of regulation are often higher than the EU and that democratic consent “would snap” if either side was forced to accept the other’s rules.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-eu-trade-deals-talks-latest-a9341076.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=INDNEWS%2318022020&utm_term=IND_Headlines_Masterlist_CDP

So what are you trying to say, we should abandon democracy because you don't like the result of the United Kingdoms referendum.

These people tried to overturn the result of the referendum and guess what, not one of them is a MP anymore. Democracy fully functional and working for the majority and not the minority.

 

 

 

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, david555 said:

O.K. you still don't get it …..????  short time shall tell you the different approach result 

You can't have your cake and eat it.????????????

[TheDark]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

So what are you trying to say, we should abandon democracy because you don't like the result of the United Kingdoms referendum.

Who really has time to care about England's referendum anymore?

 

It's done and dusted. England has a new PM who knows the best words. 

 

It's time to move on and think what are the real life consequences to the rest of the world. Are there any? Is England anymore important? It probably still is, quite like Russia is. 

[david555]

27 minutes ago, vogie said:

You can't have your cake and eat it.????????????

Oh No ?  delicious  Eating it regularly and enjoying it …...having my cake and eating it ???? (dixit PM May...)

Pattaya made 

Edited February 18, 2020 by david555

[CG1 Blue]

5 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Why should the EU change its rules to suit the UK?

Oh yeah its because of English exceptionalism.

Who is asking the EU to change their rules exactly? Does the EU insist that other non-EU countries such as Canada and Japan follow EU rules, and abide by ECJ rulings? 

The UK are asking to be treated just like other non-EU countries. 

 

And '"English exceptionalism"...please change the record ????

[david555]

5 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Who is asking the EU to change their rules exactly? Does the EU insist that other non-EU countries such as Canada and Japan follow EU rules, and abide by ECJ rulings? 

The UK are asking to be treated just like other non-EU countries. 

 

And '"English exceptionalism"...please change the record ????

Than shift your island also in that geographic location …. that could help to get the same …. not just beside our trade … ???????????? 

Edited February 18, 2020 by david555

[CG1 Blue]

This takes me back...when the europhiles were trying to force the ECU (and subsequently ERM) onto the UK. 

People may criticise The Sun, but they've come up with some cracking headlines over the years ????