UK plans to introduce border controls on EU goods after post-Brexit transition

[TheDark]

4 minutes ago, izod10 said:

It sounds to me that the bulk of them do not have a UK passport,but hoping against hope that when the break finally comes in 9 months that they can hang on in UK,covered by eu s rules and regulations  Reported today Boris is not signing up to eu human rights agenda either.  Boris (as reported) wants 3.6 million ousted from UK.  There will be more than that leaving when realisation takes hold. No bank account,no rental/owning property any financial transaction voided  

I think you are a bit confused.

[izod10]

Just now, TheDark said:

I think you are a bit confused.

Go on    a clue?

[Loiner]

40 minutes ago, TheDark said:

EU has given them choices and freedoms. 

 

Perhaps they don't rush to move to live and work or pensionate in another EU country, but at least they can keep the choice and freedom to do so. 

 

Sounds like a good deal to me. 

Sounds like a total waste of time and money to me. Remainer posturing in the face of reality.

The promised Armageddon didn't happen and won't happen any time in the future. They will just go on with their lives in the newly prosperous UK, while still moaning about being subjected to the will of the majority and dragged kicking and moaning out of the EU. 

Never mind though, their choice and freedom now extends to being able to retreat to that traditional Irish clachán if the going gets tough. (Although it costs a fortune there, the neighbours are itinerant tinkers and the weather is always terrible.)

 

Ireland would also not be a sensible place to run for home when the No Deal exit arrives. They'll be deep in the proverbial, with none of it anywhere near a fan pointing the UK way.

[izod10]

53 minutes ago, bannork said:

They're waiting for the proverbial to hit the fan in the UK if there's a no deal Brexit.

"If"  "if"     LOL      Boris is demanding a "no deal"  Would not stand in the way of that fan  either lol

 

  Might as well include this.  Boris has stated come June he will end negotiations with eu and concentrate on WTO.  Now Id look that up on the net,forever there, get that guide dog of yours to point it out   LOL

 

Awaiting "confused"  so Ill put this in while awaitng.  The Teasuck guy in Ireland knows full well eire is in for the worst outcome imaginable.   Just a case of Beam me up Scotty.  Spud planting going full belt ,and from reading the Gov.  report there it wants the Paddies to reconnect with the humble potato   get eating them again

Edited March 1, 2020 by izod10

[TheDark]

43 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Sounds like a total waste of time and money to me. Remainer posturing in the face of reality.

The promised Armageddon didn't happen and won't happen any time in the future. They will just go on with their lives in the newly prosperous UK, while still moaning about being subjected to the will of the majority and dragged kicking and moaning out of the EU. 

Never mind though, their choice and freedom now extends to being able to retreat to that traditional Irish clachán if the going gets tough. (Although it costs a fortune there, the neighbours are itinerant tinkers and the weather is always terrible.)

 

Ireland would also not be a sensible place to run for home when the No Deal exit arrives. They'll be deep in the proverbial, with none of it anywhere near a fan pointing the UK way.

While UK has become an EU vassal state, brexit hasn't really happened yet. It will in July or at the end of the year. 

 

If people want to secure their ability to live and work in the Europe, I don't see anything wrong with that. They are simply maximising their freedoms to the future. 

 

They still can live and work in the UK as they are dual citizens. But they also have the ability to retire easily to Spain, Italy, Croatia or Slovakia etc. depending of their personal preference. Freedom to move around. Freedom to live and work. Good for them.

[lungbing]

Do you think nobody ever lived abroad before the EU?

[Loiner]

10 minutes ago, TheDark said:

 

If people want to secure their ability to live and work in the Europe, I don't see anything wrong with that. They are simply maximising their freedoms to the future. 

 

They still can live and work in the UK as they are dual citizens. But they also have the ability to retire easily to Spain, Italy, Croatia or Slovakia etc. depending of their personal preference. Freedom to move around. Freedom to live and work. Good for them.

None of them will be able to go anywhere. They are all trapped in their chattering classes metrocentric lives. Trapped but self-satisfied in their public sector jobs with pensions, and tied up forever in the southern property bubble. 

They are not the type of people who would venture out of their comfort zone to live and work somewhere lacking their socialist nanny state tendencies. They hate change and fear it will upset their comfort zone. That’s why they chose Remain. 

[Loiner]

5 minutes ago, lungbing said:

Do you think nobody ever lived abroad before the EU?

However do those expats do it? Living and working around the whole world, even in places where an EU passport means nowt?

Oh, the hardships. 

[Nigel Garvie]

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

It's all very well those Remainers rushing for an Irish EU passport. But what has it done for them? Nothing.
Where are they all now? Exactly where they were pre-Brexit.

If life is so good in the EU states why haven't all those new paddies rushed off to Connemara or some of the other countries their freedom of movement guarantees them? No answer necessary.

It is not only Remainders applying for these passports. Anyone who wants to avoid visas, and longer queues when travelling in future to anywhere in the EU, would be utterly daft not to get one if they qualified. However if you can't stand that foreign food, and all those nasty foreigners not showing us the respect we believe we deserve, you can stand up for Britain and have your holidays in Southend or Skegness. God knows we are going to need the money!

[TheDark]

23 minutes ago, Loiner said:

However do those expats do it? Living and working around the whole world, even in places where an EU passport means nowt?

Oh, the hardships. 

Absolutely no hardships, when working for large MNC with tens of people working for HR department in each country, doing all the paperwork and hassle for the person. Been there, done that. 

 

However moving from one company to another becomes a small annoyance, but the receiving company can probably handle that as well. 

 

Then, when you wish to create a startup company with your friends, things get messier as the company does not have a history in the foreign country, no real money inflow, no support structure to do the paperwork.

 

But if one is restricted to purely expat contracts, where things have all handled for the person - then there is no problem at all to the person (mostly).

 

[bannork]

2 hours ago, izod10 said:

"If"  "if"     LOL      Boris is demanding a "no deal"  Would not stand in the way of that fan  either lol

 

  Might as well include this.  Boris has stated come June he will end negotiations with eu and concentrate on WTO.  Now Id look that up on the net,forever there, get that guide dog of yours to point it out   LOL

 

Awaiting "confused"  so Ill put this in while awaitng.  The Teasuck guy in Ireland knows full well eire is in for the worst outcome imaginable.   Just a case of Beam me up Scotty.  Spud planting going full belt ,and from reading the Gov.  report there it wants the Paddies to reconnect with the humble potato   get eating them again

I expect a lot of the Brits who have taken an Irish passport are like my old school chum who has lived in Spain for 30 years. He is married to a Dutch lady and has a large olive farm. He couldn't bear going back to the UK if everything went pear shaped regarding the rights of Brits in Spain post no deal Brexit.

 

[bannork]

59 minutes ago, Loiner said:

None of them will be able to go anywhere. They are all trapped in their chattering classes metrocentric lives. Trapped but self-satisfied in their public sector jobs with pensions, and tied up forever in the southern property bubble. 

They are not the type of people who would venture out of their comfort zone to live and work somewhere lacking their socialist nanny state tendencies. They hate change and fear it will upset their comfort zone. That’s why they chose Remain. 

What a load of manure!

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

I expect a lot of the Brits who have taken an Irish passport are like my old school chum who has lived in Spain for 30 years. He is married to a Dutch lady and has a large olive farm. He couldn't bear going back to the UK if everything went pear shaped regarding the rights of Brits in Spain post no deal Brexit.

 

He was concerned that after Brexit, his olives would go pear shape ?

They should have EU rules making olives olive shape

[TheDark]

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

He was concerned that after Brexit, his olives would go pear shape ?

They should have EU rules making olives olive shape

Wish for bendy bananas is coming back again! Weird bedroom toys folks have. But I don't judge. 

[bannork]

16 minutes ago, sanemax said:

He was concerned that after Brexit, his olives would go pear shape ?

They should have EU rules making olives olive shape

A cr-p joke, obviously those exceedingly out of date ( over one month, and in a hot climate) Mr Ridley cakes have affected your sense of humour.

Edited March 1, 2020 by bannork

[sanemax]

14 minutes ago, bannork said:

A cr-p joke, obviously those exceedingly out of date ( over one month, and in a hot climate) Mr Ridley cakes have affected your sense of humour.

Its OK, they were in a fridge and its Kiplings 

[bannork]

6 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Its OK, they were in a fridge and its Kiplings 

You said you had left them in your bag.

As you are in Chiang Mai that could be considered an exceedingly careless error, unless you usually put your bag in the fridge.

[CG1 Blue]

10 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Goldman Sachs was already here in London. Yes they have a lovely new headquarters.

So companies dont need to move to the UK?

So in what way will that offset the job loses already happening?

 

If UK financial firms get more business, they expand and employ more people. Pretty simple really! 

And why do you think Goldmans chose London for their new impressive European HQ, and not Frankfurt for example? 

[Rookiescot]

3 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

If UK financial firms get more business, they expand and employ more people. Pretty simple really! 

And why do you think Goldmans chose London for their new impressive European HQ, and not Frankfurt for example? 

But you said new companies would locate here.

Presently financial services in London are relocating jobs to the Eu.

[nauseus]

7 minutes ago, bannork said:

You said you had left them in your bag.

As you are in Chiang Mai that could be considered an exceedingly careless error, unless you usually put your bag in the fridge.

the Ridleys were in the bag...I think  

[nauseus]

4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

But you said new companies would locate here.

Presently financial services in London are relocating jobs to the Eu.

let's have some detail then

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

let's have some detail then

Google it.

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, Nigel Garvie said:

It is not only Remainders applying for these passports. Anyone who wants to avoid visas, and longer queues when travelling in future to anywhere in the EU, would be utterly daft not to get one if they qualified. However if you can't stand that foreign food, and all those nasty foreigners not showing us the respect we believe we deserve, you can stand up for Britain and have your holidays in Southend or Skegness. God knows we are going to need the money!

So it’s just about the paperwork and queuing at airports?

Tourists won’t see any new visa requirements and those on longer stays have always had restrictions or registration requirements. So no change there then.  

I’m sure that the current number of gates for UK passport passengers will be changed to accommodate them.  Fewer EU gates and more Rest of World, which will effectively become the UK gates. I would LMAO in Palma or Malaga at the new plastic paddies being herded with plane loads of Germans through a single gate while the true blue Brits swan through plentiful gates for them. 

[david555]

2 hours ago, lungbing said:

Do you think nobody ever lived abroad before the EU?

Yes ! but maybe not so easy anymore after Brexit ….completed ….

[Loiner]

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

Yes ! but maybe not so easy anymore after Brexit ….completed ….

So long as it is not so easy anymore for 4 million EU to squat in UK. 

[CG1 Blue]

9 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

But you said new companies would locate here.

Presently financial services in London are relocating jobs to the Eu.

"But you said new companies would locate here." No I didn't. 

 

"Presently financial services in London are relocating jobs to the Eu." Only around 1,000 roles have relocated, as part of contingency plans. That's a drop in the ocean.

Financial firms often relocate people. Credit Suisse Europe (London business) opened an office in Dublin way before Brexit, to take advantage of new Irish fund rules and get around some bank capital requirement rules. 

Sorry to disappoint you, but this Brexit exodus is a myth. 

 

[david555]

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

So it’s just about the paperwork and queuing at airports?

Tourists won’t see any new visa requirements and those on longer stays have always had restrictions or registration requirements. So no change there then.  

I’m sure that the current number of gates for UK passport passengers will be changed to accommodate them.  Fewer EU gates and more Rest of World, which will effectively become the UK gates. I would LMAO in Palma or Malaga at the new plastic paddies being herded with plane loads of Germans through a single gate while the true blue Brits swan through plentiful gates for them. 

Good the brexitboys take the blue passports ,so a pre selection would be easy against the red ones….maybe an obligation to carry them around the neck …..just a hint….????????

[nauseus]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

Good the brexitboys take the blue passports ,so a pre selection would be easy against the red ones….maybe an obligation to carry them around the neck …..just a hint….????????

What on earth do you mean, David?

[david555]

2 minutes ago, Loiner said:

So long as it is not so easy anymore for 4 million EU to squat in UK. 

Fair enough …..1 time Heathrow was enough for me ????

But when Scotland goes independence I feel obliged to go visit their highlands????must be impressive 

[david555]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What on earth do you mean, David?

???? ????