snoop1130 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Doi Suthep disappears in haze pollution By THE NATION There was nowhere to breathe in Chiang Mai province on Friday morning (March 13), with the level of PM2.5 dust in the air reaching a lung-scraping 519 micrograms per cubic metre. The safe limit in Thailand is 50mcg, which is already twice the level observed by the World Health Organisation. Friday’s record high came at 10.30am on the province’s Air Quality Health Index. Most of the province was painted purple or red on the index, indicating the “highest” and “high” levels of risk to health. The haze obliterated views of Doi Suthep, the sacred mountain overlooking the capital. The Visible Infrared Imaging Radiometer Suite satellite system spotted 683 fire hotspots across the province during the morning, mainly in forested areas. The AirVisual digital application ready the morning pollution level in Chiang Mai at 291mcg, good enough to maintain its ranking as the world’s most gagged city. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30384017 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-03-13 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigBadGeordie Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 Is Convid-19 anaerobic? Chiang Mai may be worth a visit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justgrazing Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The safe limit in Thailand is 50mcg They need to stop propagating information that there is a safe limit .. The only safe limit is zero particulate pollution .. 10 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The haze obliterated views of Doi Suthep, the sacred mountain overlooking the capital. The only thing missing now from the spectre on the horizon is choking smoke pollution .. Are they not happy with just disease , drought and plague induced financial meltdown .. 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) Congratulations, that must ensure that Chiang Mai retains the worst air in the world mantle for at least a few more weeks as it can only get worse with 2 months or more before the rains come. Can't see how any virus can live in these conditions, worth the TAT promoting that perhaps? Edited March 13, 2020 by Thailand 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post orchis Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 today. 2 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ian Nagle Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 The air unfit to breathe there will be heaps with respiratory illness, and that's before the Conovirus fully hits in. I don't fancy their chances in the north. 'Chiang Mai, the Rose of the North'... who made that one up? Someone with a very dark cynical sense of humour!! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted March 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2020 Haven't seen it since January. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheFishman1 Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 It’s getting scary to live here TIT 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Forza2002 Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 The air has been bad the last few days in San Kamphaeng... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 30la Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 13 hours ago, snoop1130 said: There was nowhere to breathe in Chiang Mai province on Friday morning (March 13), with the level of PM2.5 dust in the air reaching a lung-scraping 519 micrograms per cubic metre. This is very dirty and harms the health of the people more than any virus in the world, Mr. Anutin! It is totally Thai! 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post legend49 Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 13 hours ago, Thailand said: Congratulations, that must ensure that Chiang Mai retains the worst air in the world mantle for at least a few more weeks as it can only get worse with 2 months or more before the rains come. Can't see how any virus can live in these conditions, worth the TAT promoting that perhaps? Sponsored by the Governor of CM who bleats he has no power to change things. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MJKT2014 Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, 30la said: It is totally Thai! It looks a regional issue to me. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saengd Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, 30la said: This is very dirty and harms the health of the people more than any virus in the world, Mr. Anutin! It is totally Thai! It's only totally Thai if you don't believe the Nasa Firemaps, if you don't believe in wind currents and your agenda is to bash anything Thai. https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#z:3;c:116.6,10.5;d:2020-03-13..2020-03-14 https://www.windy.com/?18.791,98.978,5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, saengd said: It's only totally Thai if you don't believe the Nasa Firemaps, if you don't believe in wind currents and your agenda is to bash anything Thai. https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#z:3;c:116.6,10.5;d:2020-03-13..2020-03-14 https://www.windy.com/?18.791,98.978,5 Well how about this; Thailand's military commanders show some leadership and stop the slash and burn activity. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: There was nowhere to breathe in Chiang Mai province on Friday morning (March 13), with the level of PM2.5 dust in the air reaching a lung-scraping 519 micrograms per cubic metre. Should try the governors office... he seems to be above the haze!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saengd Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 35 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: Well how about this; Thailand's military commanders show some leadership and stop the slash and burn activity. Yes I agree, but that still doesn't make the problem exclusively Thai. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cmsally Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, saengd said: Yes I agree, but that still doesn't make the problem exclusively Thai. The Thais should have the means to lead the way in solving the problem, instead it is a polluted sludge of inaction. Blaming it on the "lesser developed" neighbours is shameful. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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saengd Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, cmsally said: The Thais should have the means to lead the way in solving the problem, instead it is a polluted sludge of inaction. Blaming it on the "lesser developed" neighbours is shameful. Yes they should lead the way and yes it would be shameful but the article in the OP doesn't do that. You will remember ten years ago in discussions on this subject that the concept of blown in pollution from neighboring countries was something that almost nobody accepted. Now that it is understood and accepted its more likely that a holistic solution to the problem will be developed. Personally I can imagine a scenario where Thailand throws lots of resource and money at solving the problem locally, only for the pollution to persist because of blown in pollution. That would result in one huge step backwards which is why I think a wider approach must be adopted, anything else risks being just tickling around the edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarteso Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 And soon will DISAPPEAR its citizens and tourists from the city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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klauskunkel Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I think TAT should organize a marathon there to combat the tarnished image! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gee Ku Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Not only Doi Suthep-Chiang Mai but almost the entire northern region is in a thick haze. In Chiang Rai, Mae Sai is blanketed by smoke from burning fields set alight by the local farmers and hill tribes in the surrounding mountains. Last year the PM wasted taxpayers money by visiting Chiang Mai purportedly to address the burning issue. Did anything good come out of it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Nothing will happen on a regional basis because it is not whole countries enveloped in smog. Bangkok/S Thailand/large parts of Laos including Vientiane/S Myanmar are all largely unaffected. So they don't give a ------ what happens to large parts of their countries which are traditionally agricultural and poorer. This is why a regional solution relying on national governments will not work. These monopolistic governments (as well as the Chinese govt) couldn't care a less if these areas become the trash dumps of Asia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DLock Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, saengd said: Yes they should lead the way and yes it would be shameful but the article in the OP doesn't do that. You will remember ten years ago in discussions on this subject that the concept of blown in pollution from neighboring countries was something that almost nobody accepted. Now that it is understood and accepted its more likely that a holistic solution to the problem will be developed. Personally I can imagine a scenario where Thailand throws lots of resource and money at solving the problem locally, only for the pollution to persist because of blown in pollution. That would result in one huge step backwards which is why I think a wider approach must be adopted, anything else risks being just tickling around the edges. So let's all be Thai and blame everyone else and do nothing. Fail. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saengd Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, DLock said: So let's all be Thai and blame everyone else and do nothing. Fail. Which part of, "Yes, they should lead the way" did you not understand! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, saengd said: Which part of, "Yes, they should lead the way" did you not understand! The bit where Thais say "Yes, they should lead the way"...and do absolutely nothing. That bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saengd Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, DLock said: The bit where Thais say "Yes, they should lead the way"...and do absolutely nothing. That bit. That's fine, as long as we're clear that's what you think the Thais are doing rather than what I am advocating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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