Maid And More

[uncle_tom]

As a writer planning to spend several months of next winter in Thailand to work on my next book, I'm planning to rent a modest apartment, probably in Hua Hin.

On previous, shorter visits to the kingdom, I've stayed in hotels and enjoyed the bar scene.

For this trip I will need a maid. My understanding is that maids are "good" girls, and out of reach from a carnal standpoint. I also reckon that trying to engage a bar girl as a maid with "extras" is likely to be unsatisfactory.

Is there a half way house that I could tap into? A live-in maid who is outwardly a "good" girl, but doesn't need a bed of her own...

My guess is that there must be plenty of girls who wouldn't drop to the level of working the bars, but would appreciate an enhanced income. Question is, how do I find one?

Any of you seasoned ex-pats got any practical suggestions??

[ka12345]

Don't shit where you eat.

Separate shagging and floor cleaning. If you shag her, she will most likely become lazy and don't do her maid stuff anymore...

[rainman]

Erm, you're looking for someone to do things around the house and sleep with you? Maybe a girlfriend/wife would fit your description.

[britmaveric]

Bizzare Request if I ever heard one! Gf fits the description! (not sure about maid part)

[tuky]

Erm, you're looking for someone to do things around the house and sleep with you? Maybe a girlfriend/wife would fit your description.

Hang on, is the wife still meant to sleep with me?

Man I got a bum deal

[britmaveric]

Tuky- sure your wife isn't the one with the raw deal!!!

[Boo]

what a skinflint, trying to get 2 for the price of one. shocking, get a cleaner & keep your dirty mitts off her, bad enough that she'll have to clean up after you, let alone do the other stuff, then get yourself down to the bar & pay again for a girl who knows what she's doing. as ka12345 said, don't shit on your own doorstep, you're only asking for trouble

[britmaveric]

Boo- exactly! Granted I can see the disaster coming when he shacks up with the maid and maid moves in. (quite sure it will happen) He then tries to bring another bird home and bloody ###### you can imagine what comes next....

[Boo]

keep an eye out in the press lads, some ducks are gonna get a farang feast in hua hin sometime soon

[Padkapow Guy]

keep an eye out in the press lads, some ducks are gonna get a farang feast in hua hin sometime soon

I heard the hua hin ducks like tube steak.

[stroll]

I agree, your proposal won't work in Thailand, unless you raise the girls status to that of a girlfriend -different story with different obligations, and the odd bit of emotion might be required to be passed between the bedroom and the kitchen sink.

It doesn't cease to amaze me what warped minds dream up about Thai girls.

Maybe TaT should declare an 'Amazing Farang Year'.

[Sandy]

This is the real world. But you could probably get 1 for cleaning and then 1 for your pleasures. Dont be cheap if you want something good. Spend a little.

[uncle_tom]

Ouch! You're a hard bitten lot!

OK a girlfriend or wife is obvious, but that entails the usual lies and bullshit - I like to keep in control (without telling lies) and I want to end this trip without moral obligation.

A separate maid and bedmate looks likely, but I was curious to know if there was a compromise culture.

I am too stingy to pay for both?

- yes if I don't have to!

Thanks guys!

Tom

[penzman]

He did say that he's a writer.

[stroll]

Doesn't sound like you are overly concerned with morals or moral obligations. Paying a wage for required services do not release you from moral obligation, if you agree that there is such a thing.

Keeping control through cash/economic power, tired of the usual lying... hmm, I see where you are coming from.

Why don't you write your porn novels somewhere else??!!

[dr_Pat_Pong]

He did say that he's a writer.

And this is the story he proposes to write. Two for the price of one and a good story to boot

[chanchao]

Maybe he kind find someone who cleans, sleeps with him AND also can do a writing/editor job. How perfect can life get..? :-)

Cheers,

Chanchao

[Yohan]

A separate maid and bedmate looks likely, but I was curious to know if there was a compromise culture.

I am too stingy to pay for both?

- yes if I don't have to!

How long do you intend to stay in Thailand?

What kind of accomodation will you rent?

How much do you intend to pay her per day for doing all the jobs?

I think, it is possible to regulate your services easily to your full satisfaction, it is only a question of money.

By the way, Hua Hin is not the cheapest place in Thailand.

I recommend you, to travel to Southern Thailand, and to convert to Islam - I am sure, this will solve most of your problems.....

Johann

[dr_Pat_Pong]

A separate maid and bedmate looks likely, but I was curious to know if there was a compromise culture.

I am too stingy to pay for both?

- yes if I don't have to!

How long do you intend to stay in Thailand?

What kind of accomodation will you rent?

How much do you intend to pay her per day for doing all the jobs?

I think, it is possible to regulate your services easily to your full satisfaction, it is only a question of money.

Johann

I reckon this might well be the next point of contention. He might be a bit too careful with a baht.

[Yohan]

what a skinflint, trying to get 2 for the price of one. shocking, get a cleaner & keep your dirty mitts off her, bad enough that she'll have to clean up after you, let alone do the other stuff, then get yourself down to the bar & pay again for a girl who knows what she's doing.  as ka12345 said, don't shit on your own doorstep, you're only asking for trouble

Nice to read your comment, Mrs. Boo - well educated British lady totally shocked...

Always and always these bad men.....

But maybe you should overcome your personal feelings, that every man is a criminal and every woman is totally helpless.....

I remember you very well, when critizising my thread about radical feminists in Thailand a time ago and defending such kind of poor girls ....

It would be really nice to hear your voice on a thread, where all ladies are remaining remarkable silent.....

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...pic=11357&st=30

Can I Stop My Thai Wife Taking Kids To Thailand?, kids are born in the U.K

or what about

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=11572

My Gf Goes To Sweden, with her other boyfriend and has my baby

I wonder, if you have a comment about ....and please not only a 1-liner, but something like

(using your own words)

what a (skinflint-?), trying to get 2 for the price of one. shocking, get a cleaner & keep your dirty mitts off (her-him), bad enough that (she-he)'ll have to clean up after you, let alone do the other stuff, then get yourself down to the bar & (pay-take in cash) again for a (girl-man) who knows what (she-he)'s doing. as ka12345 said, don't shit on your own doorstep, you're only asking for trouble

I wonder your reply, if any.

Johann

[davethailand]

what a skinflint, trying to get 2 for the price of one. shocking, get a cleaner & keep your dirty mitts off her, bad enough that she'll have to clean up after you, let alone do the other stuff, then get yourself down to the bar & pay again for a girl who knows what she's doing.  as ka12345 said, don't shit on your own doorstep, you're only asking for trouble

Nice to read your comment, Mrs. Boo - well educated British lady totally shocked...

Always and always these bad men.....

But maybe you should overcome your personal feelings, that every man is a criminal and every woman is totally helpless.....

I remember you very well, when critizising my thread about radical feminists in Thailand a time ago and defending such kind of poor girls ....

It would be really nice to hear your voice on a thread, where all ladies are remaining remarkable silent.....

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...pic=11357&st=30

Can I Stop My Thai Wife Taking Kids To Thailand?, kids are born in the U.K

or what about

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=11572

My Gf Goes To Sweden, with her other boyfriend and has my baby

I wonder, if you have a comment about ....and please not only a 1-liner, but something like

(using your own words)

what a (skinflint-?), trying to get 2 for the price of one. shocking, get a cleaner & keep your dirty mitts off (her-him), bad enough that (she-he)'ll have to clean up after you, let alone do the other stuff, then get yourself down to the bar & (pay-take in cash) again for a (girl-man) who knows what (she-he)'s doing. as ka12345 said, don't shit on your own doorstep, you're only asking for trouble

I wonder your reply, if any.

Johann

whats wrong with Boo's comment Yohan, I'm a british male and agree with it totally.

[fatter than harry]

Yohan you are a one track pony, leave it mate, move on, we have.

[Yohan]

whats wrong with Boo's comment Yohan, I'm a british male and agree with it totally.

It is nothing wrong with her comment, nothing at all....

However I would like to see her comments also on some other threads....

I gave her the links....

I wonder how she would defend more difficult cases....

Johann

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Yohan you are a one track pony, leave it mate, move on, we have.

I am with you Fatter than Harry. Second the motion.

[Yohan]

Yohan you are a one track pony, leave it mate, move on, we have.

profil: fatter than harry

Home Page http://www.ratemypoo.com

Birthday 8 May 1972

Location Phuket

Interests Drinking own urine

Self amputation

Pirateering in general terms

Trying to get rid of that ###### dixie chics casstte from my car

[mission accomplished]

Reading

Arseing around on the Internet

Fishing for girls (In the river of love!)

Looking up your recommended homepage

Home Page http://www.ratemypoo.com

and reading your profil......

Maybe funny.....I do not know.....

If I say, it is not funny, then others on the Thaivisa-Forum will tell me, I do not understand humour....

Happened already to me, not long time ago.

OK, I move on....

Johann

[stroll]

A separate maid and bedmate looks likely, but I was curious to know if there was a compromise culture.

I am too stingy to pay for both?

- yes if I don't have to!

How long do you intend to stay in Thailand?

What kind of accomodation will you rent?

How much do you intend to pay her per day for doing all the jobs?

I think, it is possible to regulate your services easily to your full satisfaction, it is only a question of money.

By the way, Hua Hin is not the cheapest place in Thailand.

I recommend you, to travel to Southern Thailand, and to convert to Islam - I am sure, this will solve most of your problems.....

Johann

Talking about moving on back to the topic :

Could you share with Uncle Tom and the less upfront members of this forum how you found your wife?

Are you Muslim, does this reduce the rental fee for the woman?

And why marriage, this could be worked out in an employment contract?

Marriage=Visa issues versus chances of being sued later by the woman?

[fatter than harry]

Ahhh, Yohan, good that you have a sense of humor - lets both move on.

No more feminist stuff ok?

[britmaveric]

Yohan- totally agree with Boo/Dave- think I stated as much. I think you are genuinely asking for trouble with the scenario our dear writer is proposing. Course if he genuinely stuck to maid/gf so be it, but I don't think he wants the obligations necessarily that come with it.

[Yohan]

I recommend you, to travel to Southern Thailand, and to convert to Islam - I am sure, this will solve most of your problems.....

Johann

Talking about moving on back to the topic :

Could you share with Uncle Tom and the less upfront members of this forum how you found your wife?

Are you Muslim, does this reduce the rental fee for the woman?

And why marriage, this could be worked out in an employment contract?

Marriage=Visa issues versus chances of being sued later by the woman?

1-

Are you Muslim, does this reduce the rental fee for the woman?

The situation is the following:

There is no rental-fee, and no prostitution.

Yes, Islam is reducing all kind of expenses for women, as Islam requires obligatory modest dressing for women and a modest lifestyle. -

It is obligatory for the wife to accept sexual relationship with the husband, she cannot refuse, and no married Muslim woman can call herself to be a victim of rape of her own husband ....

She also has to keep the house clean....

A Muslim man is good protected against exploition by the woman.

2-

And why marriage, this could be worked out in an employment contract?

Some Islamic marriages are very short-term - Muslims call that 'a marriage for rent' as a joke.

Divorce is easy in Islam, if the man does not want to live together with the woman anymore - it is permitted to divorce, and not a kind of moral obligation like in the Catholic Church.

Sexual relationship without marriage is not allowed in Islam.

Islamic marriage does not require /even some clerics think, it does not permit dating the woman.

Often they know in advance but some couple meet the first time during marriage.

3-

Marriage=Visa issues versus chances of being sued later by the woman?

You might marry and divorce more than one woman (up to 4)....also moderate Moslem countries like Malaysia permit that. However all wives must agree and know each other.

The man must be a Moslem, but the wives might be Christians or Jews, however pagan-woman (Buddhist, Hindu) are not allowed...they must convert to Islam first.

This works better as you might think, my Moslem friend near Hadyai has 3 wives...

They help each other a lot, are not jealous to each other, and if one woman does not like to go with him just now, the other wife will do that....

If the wife is not available (like serious ill, living abroad) - then you as man might have contact even with another woman - this is allowed for the man.

Beauty of the woman is not important, she needs not to show her face to others, and she is obliged to cover her body-form and her hair.

However the Muslim husband is permitted to use his wife - there is no rule about any clothings, when both are together....(in a closed room, so nobody can see them) the woman might be naked, there is no limit about how to touch her.......

Many Malay Muslim men have two wives, one in Thailand, and one in Malaysia.

Not unusual at all.

I never heard about an Islamic divorce in a Buddhist Thai court.

If you are a Muslim man and you marry only by Islamic customs, you need not register your marriage officially.

My opinion:

I know, Islam is a strange world of thinking (for me too)

but many people (not only men, but also women) feel obviously comfortable with it.

I think, this man posting as uncle_tom might embrace Islam as a solution for all of his personal problems....

As he is a writer, the study of Islam should be no problem for him. He must decide however by himself, what he really wants.

Johann

PS: About my wife (Japanese) I met my wife in Germany during a motorshow/fair, while she was working for a Japanese motorcycle accessoirs, I was working in a leading Austrian travel agency 1976.

I hope, this answers all questions....

[fatter than harry]

I hope, this answers all questions....

yes mate, it does - oh, except for one, are you a vogon?

http://www.sadgeezer.com/hhg/vogons.htm