German repatriation flight from Phnom Penh “half empty” – UK tourists stranded in Cambodia unaware of its existence

[Senior Player]

5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

The Brits want to go alone. They don't want to be part of Europe...

Correction: They ARE part of Europe. The fundamental difference is that UK just doesn't want to be part of the federal EU state which is a totally a different matter. As of now, the UK is still transitioning its departure and doesn't officially leave the EU until October when negotiations were meant to be finalised. That means the UK is still liable to help bailout the EU and pay towards its keep as they've only formally left. Clearly, the German's are doing what they do best: looking after No. 1. You only need to see the way they've also abandoned Italy, Spain and Portugal to the ravages of the virus to get the big picture. It's no surprise that many Italians are now openly burning the EU flag and filming their hostility towards Brussels. If you think this is just the EU showing their indifference towards the UK, then you're clearly deluded. They're doing it to every country that's not called Deutschland or their power axis buddy, France.

[cabanlit]

There's no evidence that the Germans told the British that it was available. The embassy can't advise on something they don't know exists, or that there'd definitely be available seats on.

Edited March 31, 2020 by cabanlit

[robblok]

43 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Really ? ?........what differences would they be, real or imagined.    

Whenever the Germans are mentions English members often make denigrating remakrs about them. So not sure if its imagined. I doubt there is any anomisty from the Germans towards the English. 

[robblok]

31 minutes ago, Senior Player said:

Correction: They ARE part of Europe. The fundamental difference is that UK just doesn't want to be part of the federal EU state which is a totally a different matter. As of now, the UK is still transitioning its departure and doesn't officially leave the EU until October when negotiations were meant to be finalised. That means the UK is still liable to help bailout the EU and pay towards its keep as they've only formally left. Clearly, the German's are doing what they do best: looking after No. 1. You only need to see the way they've also abandoned Italy, Spain and Portugal to the ravages of the virus to get the big picture. It's no surprise that many Italians are now openly burning the EU flag and filming their hostility towards Brussels. If you think this is just the EU showing their indifference towards the UK, then you're clearly deluded. They're doing it to every country that's not called Deutschland or their power axis buddy, France.

I agree with the Germans, those southern countries never clean up their act and when there are problems they are the first to ask for money. My country "Netherlands" has reduced the governments debt something the Italians had to do too. But they did not. Why would we help them if they never ever do anyting to save money. 

 

So in other words why would we save money in the Netherlands when we later have to give it to the Italians. I am all for helping others but not if those others havent shown any intention of changing their ways.

[chickenslegs]

2 hours ago, Logosone said:

Yes, they also promised testing 25,000 a day two weeks ago, Boris Johnson on record in the House of Commons.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8133207/How-Boris-Johnsons-government-changed-tune-coronavirus-testing.html

 

Did they deliver on that promise? 

 

No they did not.

 

This government is good at promising, but not so good at delivering.

The report is from the BBC.

The "promise" (or ambition) in this case is from University College London, clinicians at UCLH, and Mercedes Formula One engineers, who have a remarkable track record (pun intended).

Nothing to do with Boris or any promises that he may/may not have made.

 

 

 

 

 

[Logosone]

42 minutes ago, Senior Player said:

Clearly, the German's are doing what they do best: looking after No. 1. You only need to see the way they've also abandoned Italy, Spain and Portugal to the ravages of the virus to get the big picture.

Lol, is that why Germany transported 100 Italian and French patients to Germany for treatment?

 

Is the UK doing anything similar, since you're still part of Europe?

 

No? Looking after number one then. Okay. Just like when you stabbed Europe in the back and left. Looking after number one. Good to know. Now if only you were even able to that.

Edited March 31, 2020 by Logosone

[Logosone]

8 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

The report is from the BBC.

The "promise" (or ambition) in this case is from University College London, clinicians at UCLH, and Mercedes Formula One engineers, who have a remarkable track record (pun intended).

Nothing to do with Boris or any promises that he may/may not have made.

 

 

 

 

 

It's wonderful that the ingenuity of Mercedes F1 and UCL is coming with new designs.

 

I hope for the UK's sake it works and is produced in large numbers.

 

Meanwhile in Germany the Mercedes of ventilators is produced by Draeger in record numbers. Tried and tested technology.

 

Guess which one anyone affected by Covid19 would rather have?

Edited March 31, 2020 by Logosone

[evadgib]

7 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Shameful of the UK embassy and government.

Checking travel advice etc via social media during times of crisis is an individual responsibility & not something for which an Embassy should be blamed.

 

New government partnership with airlines to fly back more tourists stranded abroad

[CharlieH]

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[evadgib]

44 minutes ago, robblok said:

Whenever the Germans are mentions English members often make denigrating remakrs about them. So not sure if its imagined. I doubt there is any anomisty from the Germans towards the English. 

Methinks you may be unfairly tarring ???????????????????????????? with something perceived to be committed by the whole of ???????? ????

 

(To be serious I'm ???????????????????????????? and have lived in ???????? and love both the Country and people!)

[bkk6060]

7 hours ago, robblok said:

That is for sure but given the strife i see on Thaivisa between Germans and people from the UK im not sure it would have been a good thing. Though in times like this differences are often set aside.

And why is that?

I actually never realized any of it, until I came here. I was stupid thinking we were all allies. Traveled thru Europe did not recognize any of it.

Seems every person I have met here from any Euro country outwardly hates the other countries.  And everyone seems to hate the US.

Remember, not everyone agrees with the actions and policies of their government.

I do not see countries working together much at all, and sadly less so in the future.

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

Was he still there when he said it...or was he gone by then?

See for yourself (10-15 mins or so into last night's briefing) : 

 

Edited March 31, 2020 by evadgib

[transam]

3 hours ago, Logosone said:

Yes, they also promised testing 25,000 a day two weeks ago, Boris Johnson on record in the House of Commons.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8133207/How-Boris-Johnsons-government-changed-tune-coronavirus-testing.html

 

Did they deliver on that promise? 

 

No they did not.

 

This government is good at promising, but not so good at delivering.

Change the record, go start your own thread..........????

[samran]

7 hours ago, britanicus said:

We are and want to be part of Europe, what we don't want to be part of is the tyrannical and anti democratic European Union, more like dis Union these days.

Yes, that half empty flight organised by the Germans was clearly tyrannical and anti democratic...shame on them!

[nauseus]

40 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Lol, is that why Germany transported 100 Italian and French patients to Germany for treatment?

 

Is the UK doing anything similar, since you're still part of Europe?

 

No? Looking after number one then. Okay. Just like when you stabbed Europe in the back and left. Looking after number one. Good to know. Now if only you were even able to that.

Stabbed Europe in the back and left? Where do you get this junk?

[nauseus]

39 minutes ago, Logosone said:

It's wonderful that the ingenuity of Mercedes F1 and UCL is coming with new designs.

 

I hope for the UK's sake it works and is produced in large numbers.

 

Meanwhile in Germany the Mercedes of ventilators is produced by Draeger in record numbers. Tried and tested technology.

 

Guess which one anyone affected by Covid19 would rather have?

Probably the CPAP devices, which will avoid the need for ventilators in many cases, in turn avoiding sedation, airway invasion and even more drugs.

 

Well done UCL.

[Isaanbiker]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Whenever the Germans are mentions English members often make denigrating remakrs about them. So not sure if its imagined. I doubt there is any anomisty from the Germans towards the English. 

With all respect, it's usually the way around. 

 

 

[NanLaew]

8 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Shameful of the UK embassy and government.

Complain to your (UK) MP.

[zhounan]

What about the other europeans? We love so much this European Union with German ideological guide!!! A genuine European lager to enrich a Country led by criminal and xenophobic ideology, together with the Netherlands. 

[robblok]

17 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

With all respect, it's usually the way around. 

 

 

Not what I have read here.. sorry just my opinion.  

[NanLaew]

23 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Stabbed Europe in the back and left? Where do you get this junk?

I think it happened when he tripped over and fell on a Pickelhaube.

 

 

[pacovl46]

39 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

And why is that?

I actually never realized any of it, until I came here. I was stupid thinking we were all allies. Traveled thru Europe did not recognize any of it.

Seems every person I have met here from any Euro country outwardly hates the other countries.  And everyone seems to hate the US.

Remember, not everyone agrees with the actions and policies of their government.

I do not see countries working together much at all, and sadly less so in the future.

Just for the record. I’m from Germany, I don’t hate any people from any other country. I hate the American government for their foreign policies and the effect they have on the rest of the world, but I don’t hate Americans. As a matter of fact, I have quite a few American friends.

[Opl]

7 hours ago, britanicus said:

We are and want to be part of Europe, what we don't want to be part of is the tyrannical and anti democratic European Union, more like dis Union these days.

But sometimes it works ... Welcome to Paris CDG , LOL 

"On Saturday March 28, a group of 400 European nationals left the Bolivian airport of Santa Cruz for Paris, on a charter flight chartered by the European Union (EU). It was mainly made up of French according to the French Embassy, but also of Spaniards, Belgians, Dutch, Poles and British."

https://engnews24h.com/hundreds-of-european-tourists-evacuated-from-bolivia-and-nicaragua/

Edited March 31, 2020 by Opl

[tifino]

personally, I'd be grateful to Not have been crammed like sardines into a Fully seated plane... 

 

[pacovl46]

9 minutes ago, zhounan said:

What about the other europeans? We love so much this European Union with German ideological guide!!! A genuine European lager to enrich a Country led by criminal and xenophobic ideology, together with the Netherlands. 

Led by xenophobic ideology?!

 

It’s not the 1940s anymore.
 

Also, wasn’t it Germany that was so much for taking in refugees into the EU from the Middle East by the millions? How exactly is that xenophobic? 
 

 

[ThomasThBKK]

13 minutes ago, zhounan said:

What about the other europeans? We love so much this European Union with German ideological guide!!! A genuine European lager to enrich a Country led by criminal and xenophobic ideology, together with the Netherlands. 

What crack are you smoking? 

 

Germany is flying all of them out. Austria and others are also helping. It's only dumb brits who refuse help and do nothing themselves. 

 

https://www.pubaffairsbruxelles.eu/covid-19-european-union-continues-repatriation-efforts-of-citizens-to-europe-eu-commission-press/ 13 flights alone last week, 

[Logosone]

30 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Probably the CPAP devices, which will avoid the need for ventilators in many cases, in turn avoiding sedation, airway invasion and even more drugs.

 

Well done UCL.

 

Probably not, because long term use of CPAP leads to reduced lung capacity and it damages the lungs because it tends to over-inflate the lung. It has also been found that after prolonged use patients find it hard to breathe without CPAP. CPAP is most definitely second choice when it comes to artificial breathing. The use of this method only shows that the UK is desperately short of the real thing.

 

By the way, CPAP was invented by Australian Physician Colin Sullivan. UCL didn't invent anything but used an existing method, and then asked Mercedes F1 to build it for them. You do know who owns Mercedes F1, don't you? Anyway I'm glad we Germans are able to help you again in this time of need.

 

I wish you the best of luck. If you need to flight to Thailand don't forget to check Condor. 

[emptypockets]

7 hours ago, donnacha said:

When I see these news stories, with photos and videos of angry littles faces, so furious that their government is not doing enough to rescue them, I am just astonished at the brass neck of these people.

March is now ending. We have known since January that this problem was serious, at least serious enough to keep a close eye on. We then spent February watching country after country instituting travel restrictions, and airlines starting to cut routes.

It was clear which way thing were going by the end of February. The penny dropped for me in the wee hours of the morning on the 21st of February. I had arrived in Manila, just a couple of days before and was really looking forward to the spending the next few months in the Philippines. I suddenly understood that we had reached a point at which things were only to get more difficult, expensive, and dangerous for any Westerner caught in Asia. I considered returning to Thailand but saw that, while it might initially be safer, the sudden collapse of their tourist industry was going to cause massive ripples. What was going to happen was unprecedented, there was no way to predict how matters might develop. I could also get badly trapped between visa idiocy and no travel options.

Sitting there in my hotel room, at 3 or 4 in the morning, it was very clear that, for the first time in over two decades, I would have to make an unplanned return to the relative safety of Ireland. I was gutted to leave, and realized I might not be able to return for a very long time, but knew it was the only choice. I paid Emirates $670 for a one way ticket to Dublin, flying out that night. Then I slept for eight hours, did some shopping, had a nice meal, packed my stuff, checked out at 9PM, and caught a taxi to the airport.

20 hours later I was in Dublin Airport. I collected my suitcase and headed towards the exit. A uniformed lady stopped me. Ah, I thought, here at last is some sort of check to make sure infected travelers aren't wandering into the country. Don't worry, I said. I'm not coming from China, just the Philippines. She looked confused. Oh, she said, that. No, I just want to check if you're bringing cigarettes into the country.

During the layover in Dubai, I got chatting with some English tourists heading in the other direction to enjoy a few months in S.E. Asia. They told me it was a last minute decision, made mainly because they received a terrific deal on a resort hotel and the flights had been unusually cheap too. They planned to travel around for at least a couple of months. I was able to confirm that, yes, they would definitely be able to find hotels at unusually good prices, especially in Vietnam where I had spent a month immediately before Manila. I did ask if they were aware of the Corona virus. They were aware of it but were confident it wouldn't be a problem and, they were so excited, I did not have the heart to reveal my own conclusion.

That was February 22nd. I hope they had a few good weeks but, then, by St. Patrick's Day, mid-March, the good sense to get their posteriors onto a plane home. I reckon they almost certainly did. These idiots in the article, trapped in Phnom Penh by their own stupidity, and all the other idiots trapped in places they should have left weeks ago, represent only the most irresponsible, delusional of travelers. As I see them tut, and complain bitterly about how "that idiot Boris" isn't helping them, and how all this "just isn't good enough", I find myself thinking "Som nom na".


  
 

Wow that's some story!

I simply booked a flight online and buggered off to Australia. 

My apologies as there was no drama involved.

[Isaanbiker]

39 minutes ago, robblok said:

Not what I have read here.. sorry just my opinion.  

Mate, I don't think what you've read here is always the truth. 

 

   I've experienced so much hate towards other nations, yours included. In reality.

 

  Americans can't speak English, etc...

 

The French are the Frogs, The Germans the Krauts and worse, the Asians are.....well, I guess you get my draft.

 

I don't even want to write that word here. 

 

The good part is that that's mostly from uneducated people.

 

   Stay safe. 

Edited March 31, 2020 by Isaanbiker

[Muzzique]

If you want a flight back just go to Condor. Anyone can book them. The UK government has been telling everyone as I saw it advertised on the live feed on the BBC over a week ago. Its all over Twitter. You have to make your way back to the UK from Frankfurt as that is the only destination. One ways are 99.99 Euros

 

 

 

 

These pics are from the website that I checked a few seconds ago.

 

 

Edited March 31, 2020 by Muzzique