Confuscious Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 As long as every country can release Data about CoV-19 as they please, I don't believe a S..T about these numbers. Specially in Thailand where most deaths will go classified as "committed suicide by putting a plastic bag over his head, tied his hands behind his back and shot himself in the head". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, DrTuner said: Is there an uptick in some types of deaths? I believe of all the deaths so far 100% of them have been permanent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, webfact said: On Monday, health officials announced 28 new cases, bringing the total number of cases in the country to 2,579. 660,000 COVID-19 “high-risk” people under watch of health volunteers, as reported in another post earlier by the health ministry. These don't seem to make it to the official list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Lets say Thailand gets down to zero cases in a few weeks with everyone currently infected either recovered or dead, in other words all cases resolved on way or the other. What then? It will still be everywhere else in the world. Restrictions inside Thailand could be relaxed but they won't be able to open up the airports will they? Edited April 13, 2020 by ukrules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoshowJones Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Matzzon said: Thanks Thailand, for doing your best to take care of us. Thailand is not interested in western tourists and expats, they are waiting for a good excuse to get the Chinese back to up certain peoples income stream. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Good breakdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, DrTuner said: Questions to ask among others are: How many are turned away from hospital doors? Is there an uptick in some types of deaths? You have to rely on hearsay data now, especially since there's the "fake news" gag order in place. What a contrast to the open flow of information in some countries like Finland, where the response has been impressive and transparent. The form of government truly makes a difference. Is there any public data on deaths in Thailand per month, even a valid number that just includes deaths of all types? That exists in some places thus giving the ability to at least see if last month and the month before the number is relatively similar or different from normal. Anyone know of such data? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, ukrules said: Lets say Thailand gets down to zero cases in a few weeks with everyone currently infected either recovered or dead, in other words all cases resolved on way or the other. What then? It will still be everywhere else in the world. Restrictions inside Thailand could be relaxed but they won't be able to open up the airports will they? If we look at the current trend, we'll be at zero in a few days. Good question, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, busa said: Well if it was on Facebook it must be true. Obviously the USA is not using this miracle treatment with its 22,000 deaths and rising. I don't think anyone thinks it's a miracle treatment, those bloater with diabetes and other conditions will struggle with or without 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why Me Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 The problem with the US is there was a pandemic there before the current one arrived, that being Obesity, Diabetes from obesity and Stress from lack of job and health security. Call it ODS. Anyone suffering from ODS is a sitting duck for C-19. Americans (including moi) don't want to admit it but of all the sh*thole countries on the planet we're the richest most prosperous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6969 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: You say nonsense but you have no idea really. An extensive post on facebook earlier from a patient in Thailand who recovered listing everything that happened and medication and hydroxychloriquin was listed, unless you were there you don't know. Get on facebook and go find it Yep, right you are. I am impressed by a clinical evaluation based on a cohort of one. And published on Facebook. Seriously your "patient" could have said that he took doggy doos and gotten better. Don't forget that 98% of patients WILL get better. BTW this is exactly why that mad french doctor's publication gets dismissed by his peers. Edited April 13, 2020 by Boomer6969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, JCP108 said: Is there any public data on deaths in Thailand per month, even a valid number that just includes deaths of all types? That exists in some places thus giving the ability to at least see if last month and the month before the number is relatively similar or different from normal. Anyone know of such data? Heres UK https://www.rt.com/op-ed/484548-coronavirus--people-die-outcome/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said: Yep, right you are. I am impressed by a clinical evaluation based on a cohort of one. i provided one real example. You provided just negativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyx Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 59 minutes ago, Confuscious said: As long as every country can release Data about CoV-19 as they please, I don't believe a S..T about these numbers. Specially in Thailand where most deaths will go classified as "committed suicide by putting a plastic bag over his head, tied his hands behind his back and shot himself in the head". In that order, I guess...also, kindly state the cause of death as it not clear whether it is by suffocation or sel inflicted wound, thanks for the update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Even if in reality the Covid numbers are 10 times higher than what's being reported relatively speaking those are excellent numbers. If that is true they should reopen businesses within Thailand around the end of this month. I personally would still be hyper-vigilant about mask wearing and hand cleaning but even if others are not and infection starts again hopefully we are through the worst and herd immunity can be completed without overwhelming hospitals. If the virus has become manageable most Thai's would rather risk getting infected than going broke and starving. The main issue as others have stated is the different rates of curve flattening worldwide. It still could be a while before they can let foreign visitors come to Thailand unless there is a vaccine or rapid test available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: It could possibly even be TAT themselves. Wuhan as just opened up again, and maybe they want the Hoards back PDQ Everything seems to be running on a parallel path, or am I seeing this completely wrong. I really hope that I am, or the biggest Cluster @@#@ in History will be kicked off. 2 weeks should see the danger fully passed. Timed just nicely for the PM to announce, after the Tuesday meeting, that the much improved situation no longer necessitates the visa amnesty (that so many were convinced must be rolled over into June). They really didn't like being "bounced" into that one. (At the rate they're "planing" the numbers off, I wouldn't be surprised to see the announcement next week) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 56 minutes ago, ukrules said: Restrictions inside Thailand could be relaxed but they won't be able to open up the airports will they? Some good news at last then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, webfact said: Over the past four previous days, Thailand reported 54 new cases on Thursday, 50 on Friday, 45 on Saturday, 33 on Sunday and 28 today (Monday). it would be easier to believe/compare if they posted the number of people tested for the same 4 day period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post noone223 Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2020 yeah, lets believe the same country that threatened to block facebook for publishing certain photos they didn't want the world to see. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, graemeaylward said: I think it has more to do with diet and temperature here in the tropics. The map below shows epicentres in temperate zone.! how do you explain the cases in Singapore Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 57 minutes ago, possum1931 said: Thailand is not interested in western tourists and expats, they are waiting for a good excuse to get the Chinese back to up certain peoples income stream. Oh, you mean that they are not kissing your feet and praying to you. How incredibly sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Suradit69 said: And the same lame, tired comments from the same TV genius pool. Yet you choose to show us how superior you are by doing the same and swimming in the same pool? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2020 Thailand the only country in the world that puts the cost of tests before the lives of its citizens: Speaking at today’s news conference, he defended the country’s relatively low number of tests, saying that it is not economically feasible to conduct mass screening tests. “We conducted fewer tests, so we can be economical,” Taweesin said. https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/04/13/daily-reported-infections-fall-to-28-but-2-more-died-of-virus/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzique Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 The Thai government do not have the financial resources or test/health care capability to control the virus. Its better to let the virus plow through the country and then lie about the stats to keep the masses happy. If they don't people will starve and the economy will be ruined. India will do the same as will the African states and other developing countries. In these cases people live from hand to mouth. More will die from starvation as a result of a hard lockdown than from the virus. Lying about the stats, in Thailand's case, is the lesser of the 2 evils. We all know these figures are BS but the alternative is far worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: http://www.ksdk.com/video/news/verify/verify-have-flu-deaths-outnumbered-coronavirus-deaths-this-year/63-7942d1bf-79cc-44fc-a1bb-8e4bcc08e286?jwsource=cl For all of those "It's only the Flu" folks...... Well it's just a flu and this is a bad year for the flu.This year the flu might be 2-3 times worse than an average year.If it looks,smells and tastes like a flu and has the same symptoms and qualities as a flu and is a corona virus which are included in normal flu yearly counts what would you call it? I forgot to add that the average deaths from the flu in Thailand is about 2700. Edited April 13, 2020 by FarFlungFalang 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deevo666 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, w94005m said: It is the case fatality rate (Deaths/Recovered patients) that is the lead number. of almost 4%, which is more in line with WHO estimates of the overall fatality death rate, However, worldwide as you say that figure is just over 20%. BIG difference. Maybe they're catching people earlier here, where the recovery rate is much better. Or maybe better drugs are the reason. One can only hope. 20%??? 1.8m cases 114k deaths globally. thats around 6% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Not a chance. Our's only goes until 17th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meshborg Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, meshborg said: My Thai father in law at funerals every week.They just not recording those deaths as Covid 19.What going on in Thailand or globally nobody knows the truth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Creasy said: Prayuts hotline should be ringing non stop with world leaders wanting to know Thailand’s secret to remarkable low numbers No secret just use low numbers it's not rocket surgery! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, graemeaylward said: I think it has more to do with diet and temperature here in the tropics. The map below shows epicentres in temperate zone.! Well the figures for Singapore have gone up recently , they have also ramped up their testing numbers. 2+2 = ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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