UK says PM's adviser did not break lockdown rules with 400 km drive

[evadgib]

6 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

Can you point to the evidence where Cummings' wife says her piece on Radio 4 was edited and misrepresented by the BBC?

A question best reserved for his wife (& see #131)

Edited May 23, 2020 by evadgib

[vinny41]

1 hour ago, KhaoNiaw said:

There you go. If you listen to his wife's piece on Radio 4 it's absolutely clear they broke the rules that applied to everyone else. And if they thought it was ok why did she pretend they'd been in London the whole time? 

Here is the original Radio recording Published April 25th Here piece starts at 1:48 and lasts for 12 minutes at no point is location mention during the recording so no case of pretending to be in London or elsewhere

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000hmyy

[jimmyswale]

Guardian reporting he was seen 30 miles away from his parents, even his hastily constructed 'story' is starting to unravel. 

New witnesses cast doubt on Dominic Cummings's lockdown claims.
Exclusive: eyewitness says top No 10 aide left isolation to go 30 miles to popular tourist town

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/new-witnesses-cast-doubt-on-dominic-cummingss-lockdown-claims

[jimmyswale]

More holes than a sieve...he went to and fro from Durham to London twice and even the Spectator saying he must go. Going to be an interesting week. Talk on Twitter Guardian/Mirror are holding stuff back to set a trap into which he and his supporters have conveniently fell even Guido's starting to fall away. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8350755/Ministers-squirm-insist-Dominic-Cummings-did-NOT-break-rules.html

 

 

Edited May 23, 2020 by jimmyswale

[jimmyswale]

32 minutes ago, jimmyswale said:

More holes than a sieve...he went to and fro from Durham to London twice and even the Spectator saying he must go. Going to be an interesting week. Talk on Twitter Guardian/Mirror are holding stuff back to set a trap into which he and his supporters have conveniently fell even Guido's starting to fall away. The kept back second trip will be his undoing  - all the cabinet ministers were sent out to bat on a sticky wicket he will be gone by Wednesday at the latest. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8350755/Ministers-squirm-insist-Dominic-Cummings-did-NOT-break-rules.html

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

This seems to be the most accurate assessment seen to date.

Some random bloke on the internet.

 

I’m sure he’s pleased with the redirected traffic.

[kingdong]

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not quite that simple.

 

Putting aside the obvious and real risk of this idiot spreading the disease, the Government he advises has enacted restrictions of movement that has cause severe hardship for millions of people.

 

And yet here Gove is defending someone who refuses to abide by the rules the Government have put in place.

 

It stinks of privilege for the few in contempt of the many.

 

 

Like the farmers who wanted to import hundreds of untested eastern European fruit pickers when there were thousands of unemployed British workers looking for work,still they"probably "weren,t infected.

[sungod]

5 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

As I asked earlier, why did Cummings and his wife break self isolation; could Cummings' sister not travel to London to collect the child?

Ah, OK, now you are suggesting that in special cases its OK to 'break' the lock down rules.

 

Thanks for the clarification.

[sungod]

6 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

Scotland has different rules to England; indeed all the four nations of the UK have their own rules regarding Covid 19.

 

Neither London nor Durham are in Scotland, they are both in England. If Cummings went from London to Durham via any part of Scotland, then he travelled a lot more than 260 miles!

Remote working in Scotland remains the default, they are encouraging people to stay at home.

 

"Iain Stewart, who is one of those leading the charge in Orkney’s fight against the virus, and encourages residents to avoid nonessential travel.............."

 

Just wondered how many on hear would consider these trips to and from the mainland unnecessary when he has a perfectly good place to stay on Orkney?

[Mama Noodle]

Ive been seeing this story on social media since yesterday and still do not understand what the outrage is. 

[Mama Noodle]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m sure he’s pleased with the redirected traffic.

 

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

More ripped videos off you tube as you return to o your habit of posting links to drive traffic.

 

I dont think you know very much about what you're talking about here. 

[cleopatra2]

1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:

Ive been seeing this story on social media since yesterday and still do not understand what the outrage is. 

It undermines public trust in the lockdown guidelines and regulations.

A few points to note , why the Cummings did not seek help from family members in London. 

Failing this why not utilise the local support available.

Mary Wakefield was Covid 19 why did she break the lockdown regulations and travel with Dominic and son.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, kingdong said:

Like the farmers who wanted to import hundreds of untested eastern European fruit pickers when there were thousands of unemployed British workers looking for work,still they"probably "weren,t infected.

The British Government has control over the UK’s borders, a point Johnson campaigned on.

 

Take it up with Johnson and his Government.

 

Unless of course you don’t want to face up to the fact you were had.

Edited May 24, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

 

I dont think you know very much about what you're talking about here. 

When I have something to say I say it in my own words, I don’t post videos of other people ranting.

 

[david555]

As you see how disgusting way # 10 is closing ranks in Cummings defence , why should any one from now respecting any rules in case the virus as long as you have a good reason for yourself to break it ...... that is the flip side (unwanted ) message of their defense on him they give .

 

Reading and seeing U.K. newspapers & Television reactions  

I wonder what would happen if the common people would start such a movement.... 

[norfolkandchance]

More revelations in the UK press this morning.

[Malawi]

1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:

Ive been seeing this story on social media since yesterday and still do not understand what the outrage is. 

Can you actually read?

[metisdead]

Some off topic posts and replies have been removed.

 

Posts with links to videos from unapproved YouTube sources have been removed. 

[kingdong]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The British Government has control over the UK’s borders, a point Johnson campaigned on.

 

Take it up with Johnson and his Government.

 

Unless of course you don’t want to face up to the fact you were had.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of your post,what's it got to do with johnson? It wasn,t him that wanted to let the crop pickers in despite thousands of local unemployed Labour available the race card gets played again.

 Lab 

Edited May 24, 2020 by kingdong

[evadgib]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Some random bloke on the internet.

 

I’m sure he’s pleased with the redirected traffic.

Confirming yet again that the content was on track ????

Edited May 24, 2020 by evadgib

[evadgib]

3 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

 

I dont think you know very much about what you're talking about here. 

Rhubarbing the content and/or attacking the poster is the only way he can compete.

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Rhubarbing the content and/or attacking the poster is the only way he can compete.

Give us your own thoughts in your own words and we can discuss.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

52 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Confirming yet again that the content was on track ????

I have no idea, I skip the videos you rip and post.

 

I have neither the time or inclination to waste on ripped videos.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, kingdong said:

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of your post,what's it got to do with johnson? It wasn,t him that wanted to let the crop pickers in despite thousands of local unemployed Labour available the race card gets played again.

 Lab 

If you are going to accuse others of ‘hypocrisy’ it might be a good idea to look up the meaning of the word and perhaps a few examples of its correct use in a sentence.

 

 

[evadgib]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Give us your own thoughts in your own words and we can discuss.

I will continue to articulate my views in any manner I choose without being given marks out of ten. If you don't like it stick me on ignore like a good many are doing to you & (please!) give my posts a wide berth instead of continually baiting, or should I say Stomping them.

[Mavideol]

at least some had the balls to resign

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/uk/neil-ferguson-imperial-coronavirus-sage-gbr-intl/index.html

UK coronavirus adviser resigns after reports his lover visited during lockdown

"I acted in the belief that I was immune, having tested positive for coronavirus and completely isolated myself for almost two weeks after developing symptoms," he said.

"I deeply regret any undermining of the clear messages around the continued need for social distancing to control this devastating epidemic.

"The government guidance is unequivocal, and is there to protect all of us."

 

http://www.cuzzblue.com/2020/04/scotland-top-health-official-resigns.html

SCOTLAND: Top Health Official Resigns After Violating Her Own Social Distancing Guidelines

“While there are reasons for what I did, they do not justify it and they were not legitimate reasons to be out of my home,”

 

[Rookiescot]

He is getting torn apart in the press and on Sky News.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/dominic-cummings-no-10-accused-of-covering-up-lockdown-breach

 

The former chief constable of Durham has said it is clear that Dominic Cummings broke the lockdown rules with his trip from London to the north-east.

Mike Barton’s intervention comes as Downing Street faced accusations of a cover-up over the trip by the prime minister’s top aide to Durham at the height of the national lockdown, with reports that No 10 knew he had made the 264-mile journey after developing coronavirus symptoms.

[vogie]

30 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

at least some had the balls to resign

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/uk/neil-ferguson-imperial-coronavirus-sage-gbr-intl/index.html

UK coronavirus adviser resigns after reports his lover visited during lockdown

"I acted in the belief that I was immune, having tested positive for coronavirus and completely isolated myself for almost two weeks after developing symptoms," he said.

"I deeply regret any undermining of the clear messages around the continued need for social distancing to control this devastating epidemic.

"The government guidance is unequivocal, and is there to protect all of us."

 

http://www.cuzzblue.com/2020/04/scotland-top-health-official-resigns.html

SCOTLAND: Top Health Official Resigns After Violating Her Own Social Distancing Guidelines

“While there are reasons for what I did, they do not justify it and they were not legitimate reasons to be out of my home,”

 

It could be argued that leaving the house to do what is right towards his family and someone else leaving his house to get his leg over are two very different reasons, how could anyone not see a difference there?

 

[Phil McCaverty]

46 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I will continue to articulate my views in any manner I choose without being given marks out of ten. If you don't like it stick me on ignore like a good many are doing to you & (please!) give my posts a wide berth instead of continually baiting, or should I say Stomping them.

1/10

[Phil McCaverty]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

Rhubarbing the content and/or attacking the poster is the only way he can compete.

Pots and kettles x10.