‘To defeat virus, 9 out of 10 Thais must follow Covid-19 rules’

[webfact]

‘To defeat virus, 9 out of 10 Thais must follow Covid-19 rules’

By The Nation

 

Dr Rungruang Kitpati

 

Dr Rungruang Kitpati, spokesman for the Public Health Ministry, on Tuesday (June 9) advised on Facebook that three things were necessary to defeat the Covid-19 outbreak so the country could return to normal.

 

The government is expected to announce the fourth phase of lockdown easing soon, after the number of new daily Covid-19 cases dropped to a trickle.

 

Rungruang explained that the first action necessary to defeat the virus was reducing the infection rate as much as possible.

 

"For example, if 1 million people are infected, up to 100,000 people will die because medical personnel will be overwhelmed by the situation," he said.

 

The second action was conducting proactive testing to seek out new Covid-19 infections, he said, adding that this was the trump card in beating the virus.

 

"We need to find these patients so we can contain the spread of this disease as soon as possible," he said.

 

The final thing needed was cooperation from everyone.

 

"If 90 per cent of people act in line with the government [health] measures, I can confirm that we will definitely win the battle against Covid-19."

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30389331

 

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[rkidlad]

1 minute ago, webfact said:

‘To defeat virus, 9 out of 10 Thais must follow Covid-19 rules’

So I can look forward to not following the rules then........

[uli65]

Is there no end in sight with all this covid nonsene? these self important nobodies are a real shame.

[Mattd]

So, yesterday it was announced that it was 14 days since the last reported internal case of C-19, another 14 days is required to declare being Covid free, all incoming people are taken to mandatory quarantine for 15 days (yes, 15 as confirmed by a Thai friend of mine who arrived in to Thailand on Sunday 24th May and was released yesterday) all those in quarantine take two Covid tests whilst in quarantine, 1 after 4 days and 1 4 days prior to the end, once released then they have to say where they are going to and be tested further after arriving at their destination (again confirmed by the same friend).

Given the above, then there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to continue with any measures or restrictions post 1st July assuming there are no reported internal cases between now and then.

If there is, then it is no longer Covid related.

[garygooner]

Yesterday evening went out to buy food in BK. Saw one police officer. He was looking at his phone, smiling and not wearing a mask. Says it all. TIT. 

[2long]

"For example, if 1 million people are infected, up to 100,000 people will die..."

So that's 10% of all infected people die, not because there's a 10% mortality rate, but because it's much higher than that and they can't save everyone?

He should get his facts right before going public.

[JCP108]

Maybe the continued pressure to distance and maintaining the lockdown measures has to do with the government paying attention to data that we don't have easy access to and which would suggest that there's more of a problem than is being reported. A recent NYT article interprets recent data to say that in March Thailand had 1,800 more deaths than would be expected give past data. That month, 12 Covid-19 deaths were reported rather than 1,800. 

 

/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html

 

[mr mr]

so those 2 pictures floating around yesterday of the subway ride and the dinner where no one was wearing a mask. were they all the 1 in 10 that didn't need to wear one ? 

 

i am so confused. 

[DrTuner]

Have 9 out of 10 Thais/Siamese ever followed any rule in the history of mankind?

Edited June 9, 2020 by DrTuner

[DrTuner]

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"For example, if 1 million people are infected, up to 100,000 people will die because medical personnel will be overwhelmed by the situation," he said.

I'm going to straight out call BS on this one. Unless those 1M are all yais with pre-existing conditions in the sticks. IFR has never been 10%.

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.11.20098780v1

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Applying this asymptotic estimator to cumulative COVID-19 data from 139 countries reveals a global IFR of 1.04% (CI: 0.77%,1.38%). 

 

[Youlike]

1 hour ago, uli65 said:

Is there no end in sight with all this covid nonsene? these self important nobodies are a real shame.

In Europe there are over 100 doctors protesting against the lockdown because it's all fake.

[JCP108]

50 minutes ago, Youlike said:

In Europe there are over 100 doctors protesting against the lockdown because it's all fake.

So, that would be 100/1,800,000 or 0.0055% of European doctors who think it's all fake. 

 

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/pdfscache/37382.pdf

 

[bodga]

Without a calculator???

[Amusements]

 

[asiasurfer]

5 hours ago, uli65 said:

Is there no end in sight with all this covid nonsene? these self important nobodies are a real shame.

I doubt it. As long as they are allowed to make "announcements", the madness will go on.

[dinsdale]

Actually the advice from all or most experts was 8 out of ten. Being that it seems to be lessening and NZ saying eradicated one would think the 9 out or 10 which as the R naught number would now be somewhat reduced.

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The second action was conducting proactive testing to seek out new Covid-19 infections, he said, adding that this was the trump card in beating the virus.

 

"We need to find these patients so we can contain the spread of this disease as soon as possible," he said.

We all know that testing here was not very good so this is B*.

 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

"If 90 per cent of people act in line with the government [health] measures, I can confirm that we will definitely win the battle against Covid-19."

This statement doesn't support the covid numbers. Indeed travelling home I saw plenty of restaurants open with plenty of people. Probably they could drink water or Coke etc but not alcohol because as has already been stated drinking alcohol encourages the spread of the virus. Sit eating with family or friends and drink water is ok. Do the same with a beer or two isn't. This is just the ultra-conservatives in power forcing people to their ways which has absolutely no scienfic basis backed by a state of emergency . 

[Geoffggi]

16 hours ago, webfact said:

‘To defeat virus, 9 out of 10 Thais must follow Covid-19 rules’

Then it is never going to end...........!!!!

[rupert the bear]

we were told yesterday that 60% in northern italy had antibodies and WHO said that asymptomatic carriers are NOT infectious.so..........2 massive game changers .how can any type of lockdown be justified?perhaps its about control and letting people know that.we do not have an elected entity running the show and it shows,regional travel needs to be allowed as many people have important and pressing issues to attend to.the cuffs need to come off very shortly and the economy needs to work ,forcing penury and poverty on people in these circumstances is .....well absurd and the fact is china is first back thru the door tells us many things,they that lie ,they that cause this hardship are rewarded,they that threaten and cajole the region.excuse me whilst i vomit.

[Bender Rodriguez]

infected with, does not mean SICK that you need to be in the hospital !!!

 

0.2 percent death rate ... 

 

more mumbo jumbo hocus pocus to keep people living in stress & prison

[hotchilli]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

"If 90 per cent of people act in line with the government [health] measures, I can confirm that we will definitely win the battle against Covid-19."

If you can get 10% of people to act in line with the government health measures you'd be doing well !

[david555]

17 hours ago, garygooner said:

Yesterday evening went out to buy food in BK. Saw one police officer. He was looking at his phone, smiling and not wearing a mask. Says it all. TIT. 

Like the headline say 9 out of 10 Thais must follow Covid-19 rules’...… so he is probably that 1 in 10 who doesn't has to follow the covid -19 rules  together with some other elites ones I guess ????

[Boomer6969]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

"If 90 per cent of people act in line with the government [health] measures, I can confirm that we will definitely win the battle against Covid-19."

To achieve this level of acceptance the rules must remain wise and based a sensible cost benefit justification. Forcing people to wear masks on empty beaches, having mums, dads and kids eating on separate tables, banning wine and beer served with meals is just mindless bullying with no added value that will hamper any upturn of the economy.

Edited June 10, 2020 by Boomer6969

[Khun Paul]

Following the personal hygiene rules, washing hands, not touching face etc, is not difficult and should be followed in any event. Restrictions on life, well apart from places that rely on tourists, nothing has really changed apart from signing in to go into a mall, small nuisance .

 

[Emdog]

Thanks for the chart on "undefined deaths" in Thailand.

The data does get a tad fogged up, however, in that traffic deaths (which are not reported to world standards last time I looked) were way down during this period, so if normally 2k a month goes to 200 gives you lots of "slack". As many have pointed out, bad driving is the true pandemic in this country.

[Centrum]

18 hours ago, garygooner said:

Yesterday evening went out to buy food in BK. Saw one police officer. He was looking at his phone, smiling and not wearing a mask. Says it all. TIT. 

Which part?

He was looking at his phone?

He was smiling?

[robbioff]

19 hours ago, uli65 said:

Is there no end in sight with all this covid nonsene? these self important nobodies are a real shame.

13 hours ago, asiasurfer said:

I doubt it. As long as they are allowed to make "announcements", the madness will go on.

Why is ThaiVisa giving space to this b/s?

[Keesters]

19 hours ago, JCP108 said:

Maybe the continued pressure to distance and maintaining the lockdown measures has to do with the government paying attention to data that we don't have easy access to and which would suggest that there's more of a problem than is being reported. A recent NYT article interprets recent data to say that in March Thailand had 1,800 more deaths than would be expected give past data. That month, 12 Covid-19 deaths were reported rather than 1,800. 

 

/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html

 

Graph does not state "in March" but states "from March". And with the downward slope of the 2020 line I'd suggest the 1800+ might be a mistake and should be 1800- due possibly to the reduction of traffic. 

Edited June 10, 2020 by Keesters

[BernieOnTour]

19 hours ago, JCP108 said:

Maybe the continued pressure to distance and maintaining the lockdown measures has to do with the government paying attention to data that we don't have easy access to and which would suggest that there's more of a problem than is being reported. A recent NYT article interprets recent data to say that in March Thailand had 1,800 more deaths than would be expected give past data. That month, 12 Covid-19 deaths were reported rather than 1,800. 

 

/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html

 

Before one is doing „copy / paste“ from a magazine, one should do a background check, what those numbers mean in reality !

 

- Thailand had in 2018 a death rate of 7.66 / 1000 population 

- That results in 535,087 deaths per year (based on a total population of 69.8 million)

- So the average number of daily deaths is 1,466 

 

==>

That means: the „excess deaths“ are

equivalent to just ~30 hours

of the average deaths rate !

 

Additional to that:

The 1800 „excess deaths“ are just 0.34 % of the average yearly deaths.

... since when do we assume in ThaiVisa, we can trust Thai statistics to have such an extreme accuracy ? 

Edited June 10, 2020 by BernieOnTour

[Matzzon]

Now is the time!

 

1. Collect your friends. 

2. Split up in groups of 10.

3. Make a schedule of how everyone can get a piece.

 

So, now it´s a master plan. Everyone can break the rules one time every 10 days. See, how fair things can be!

[Clarkey611]

55555555

 

yet a large number will believe it!