All Kiwis live on the Gold Coast of Queensland so my Aussie son says. New Zealand is all Maoris and Poms (UK people)

12 hours ago, damascase said:

Yes, and in that kight I don’t understand why one would need a ‘fit to fly’ certificate and a medical certificate if everybody is tested upon arrival anyhow.....,.,

I guess to protect people who board the same plane?

 

but I agree, with a medical certificate prior to boarding and testing on arrival, might as well let any nationality in. They are obviously covid free. A travel bubble, it is not.

... a nasty bubble, ready to weep

 

I am here from NZ. will that help ???? Off today for the first time in nearly 3 months to villa to stock up. Now watch the Thai baht surge ????

who are they kidding ?

Continues to suck up to the root cause of all this trouble. Bring in the Chinese and I hope it bites them straight in the derriere.

Don’t let them ‘eye’ tourists from Mongolia. TAT has too much yak already.

13 hours ago, Traubert said:

America.

 

Stands to reason.

Not! Americans will be the most radioactive people on the planet for at least the next year or two, due to the massive failure to deal with Covid. Trump failure #3. First the FEMA disaster from Hurricane Maria. Then Covid. Now the response to the Floyd protests. A failing grade and a November defeat. Bye bye Don Donald.  Next!

 

Hard as they try, tourism is not returning to Thailand anytime soon. Millions will remain out of work. 

It seems only Thailand believes China’s Wuhan virus numbers.

I agree with previous ideas about NZ tourists paired with Chinese tourists. If another Wuhan virus occurs after July—no doubt the NZ tourists will get blamed.

I believe the only non stop flights from NZ are with Thai, a quick look for early August has Thai at 8,000 baht more than the cheapest flight and 5,000 more than Qantas via Sydney. Thai 32,000, Qantas 27,000.

Is anyone surprised at this latest gem to come out of the mouth that perpetually gives...... I do believe if this mans house was burning down and a farang fire engine turned up he'd turn it away and watch his house burn down...........  which is basically what they're doing with Thailand, someone should remind him that it's not only his country...... and if he's so fond of China then maybe a re-location should be considered, i'm sure there's many in the country that would chip in for his flight....... ONE WAY !  

It's funny this whole Travel Bubble Thing. Thailand is like the weak kid jumping up and down screaming pick me, pick me. 

The initial AU, NZ, Japan, S Korea and VN group left Thailand out (of course China as well). As with Cambodia and Laos, nobody believes the numbers from Thailand and these countries don't want to risk blowing all of their great efforts on the liars from Thailand.

Thailand has been included in a recent Bubble with Japan, but that is almost entirely business focused.

Although, I would love for this to happen so I could get the F out of the country for a change - and yes probably on the way to not coming back. Thanks in advance to those wishing good riddance, appreciate your concern.

They are going to have to do a lot more that that to fix the massive hole that they have dug themselves into ???? Step 1...Try starting to make tourists feel welcome !

What about the 100 k insurance for them ?

As a matter of fact. This idea is quiet silly.

NZ does not have many citizen to cover the tourist market.

China on the other side has approx. 1,7 billion people but as we have seen, it would not be smart and wise.

1. China's number of virus case are fake. As everybody knows, in a dictatorship regime every station in the hierarchy

   modifies the number forwarded to their superior to look good/or does not get punished. 

2. For all the people who are still wearing their pink sunglasses, go online and get some real information about China e.g.

    "NTD News", "China uncensored", "EPOCH times". You will get shocked to hear the real story and not only synchronized

    news.

3. Everybody should be more critical about their political environment.

Excellent choice

New Zealand  a country with Zero cases

and the other the epi center and dubious statistics as to what really happened. 

 

I think Thailand and the strong baht is receiving a helping hand from someone.??? ???? Of course NZ!????

China/Thailand.

Unfortunately the new normal.

Thailand has lots of brown envelopes from China.

Thailand thinks it needs Chinese money.

The great Kingdom of Thailand can survive quite happily without China. The tech is here, the workers are here, the factories, shipping is here and the money is here.

Forget China please.

They could also add Atlantis to that list, for  all the good any of this  will do them, or  possibly the Klangers?

Pryut and Analtin anutin must appease his Chinese masters welcome to  Chiland 

15 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

I would be amazed if NZ did that deal.

Also think NZ population is ~5mil.

Bit bigger than say city of Melbourne. Au.

In my travels throughout Thai, I very rarely run into NZ tourists. This is just a smoke screen to cover the zillion Chinese about to be allowed back. Make it look like Thai gov are not just allowing only Chinese.

New Zealand and Australia are planning to establish a covid free bubble with various Pacific Island states. 

For a variety of reasons, I doubt whether the New Zealand & Australian Governments would recommend Thailand as a safe tourist destination for their citizens. 

13 hours ago, jackinthebox said:

Some of the Thais tell me that Germany will probably also be "in". Lowest infection rate in western Europe- and after all, we already had some kind of "bubble" the last couple of months here near Zugspitze.

Maybe not all Germans, just Bavarians ????

26 minutes ago, NoComment said:

China/Thailand.

Unfortunately the new normal.

Thailand has lots of brown envelopes from China.

Thailand thinks it needs Chinese money.

The great Kingdom of Thailand can survive quite happily without China. The tech is here, the workers are here, the factories, shipping is here and the money is here.

Forget China please.

"Chinese direct investment in Thailand jumped nearly five times to 262 billion baht ($8.6 billion) in 2019 from the previous year, according to the Board of Investment, making China the kingdom's biggest foreign investor for the first time."

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Business-trends/Spurred-by-trade-war-Chinese-investment-in-Thailand-skyrockets

15 hours ago, JCP108 said:

There will have to be one other country at least when China is allowed back in. If it's only China and there's a spike of Covid 19, that would look bad and where to put the blame?

easy: Blame the farang! because they did not come to TH, the Chinese had to help out with the virus

After all the lies the Chinese government has told, and their refusal to allow any independent corroboration of their claims,  why on earth would anyone trust them when they now say they have this virus controlled?

I don’t think NZ will be a big contributor to the recovery, but if the Chinese are allowed in it will help the hotels,F&B and transport companies. I think at some point Thailand needs to open up but gently.

Which sane Nation would like to be in a bubble with the lieing country of origin and superspreader of CV 19 ?

 

If they are allowed in, it won't save the hospitality industry, as the money is channeled to Chinese and Government run companies. You won't find them in a restaurant or shop they have chosen.

 

No help just a huge burden for the people in Thailand.

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I wasn't aware that enough NZ tourists went there before to make a difference anyway.

Just looked it up - in 2016 100,000 NZers visited Thailand. Australia is nearly Covid free and has announced currently planning usual international passenger flights to commence 17/09. In comparison there were 800,000 Oz tourists to Thailand in 2016.

I cant understand why this bloke and a few others continually speak about these things when they have no substantive plans to do anything. Why speak if you've got nothing to stay. At this point both Chinese and NZ citizens are not allowed to travel. The travel bubble that was talked about the other day by Singapore did not mention Thailand. No-one in Australia or NZ has mentioned Thailand. They all know that the testing regime is not transparent nor are the numbers of tests sufficient to compare. At best Thailand will get in on the tail of those other countries activities once they have set it up. A testing regime at the airport may get a few in, but not if you have to quarantine at the other end. Its still very much a matter of wait and see for everybody including Thailand. But I'm gonna leave as soon as I can and trust to providence to get back in January

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Thailand eyes tourists from China, New Zealand to fill its ‘travel bubble’

No disrespect to all you Kiwis, but this is about CHINA and its people - tourists, business men and investors. The Eastern Economic Corridor, major infrastructure projects (roads and high speed railways) and so on - when the Covid-19 pandemic is over!

55 minutes ago, NoComment said:

 

The great Kingdom of Thailand can survive quite happily without China. The tech is here, the workers are here, the factories, shipping is here and the money is here.

 

Sadly, I think we all know that isn't the case. Thailand has been unable to become anything other than mediocre (apart from tourism). Can it survive? Of course. Can it develop and thrive? No. 

 

Despite being a country perfectly positioned in Asia and not decimated by war in this generation (e.g - Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma etc), they have shown that they cannot create an economy based around any form of innovation and technology with skilled workers. 

 

Unfortunately, I believe Thailand needs China.