In London skirmishes, suspected far-right protester is rescued

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

Really?

I kept my boots because no way did I want to be breaking in new ones again if I ever got called back up.

And if you were of insufficient rank that you were actually listening to a storeman then hell mend you. He probably handed you a bag of Fullers earth and said it was in there somewhere.

This narrative that it was Army veterans defending statues is totally false. 

If Army veterans thought for one second that was needed there would have been a hundred thousand in that square. The fact it was only defended by racist thugs (copyright Johnson) tells everyone what was really going on.

 

 

I am not interested who guarded what or your faux outrage. The bottom line is that it is the polices job to stop crime and if they had stopped the hoodlums last week there would have been no trouble this week. The police, well I'm doing them a dis-service calling them police, I mean the lefts social workers and minders were a total disgrace and are fully responsible for this weekends disturbances. If covid-19 suddenly soars I guess you'll be blaming Boris again and not these mindless idiots. Again selective outrage.

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

I am not interested who guarded what or your faux outrage. The bottom line is that it is the polices job to stop crime and if they had stopped the hoodlums last week there would have been no trouble this week. The police, well I'm doing them a dis-service calling them police, I mean the lefts social workers and minders were a total disgrace and are fully responsible for this weekends disturbances. If covid-19 suddenly soars I guess you'll be blaming Boris again and not these mindless idiots. Again selective outrage.

OK so what you are saying is we need right wing racist thugs to police the country because the police are not doing the job you think they should be.

Think I have read about that before somewhere.

 

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

True enough the security services have said that the far right poses a considerable threat now and that threat is growing.  They are taking it very seriously 

Seriously? A threat of what and to whom? Seriously. 

[KhaoNiaw]

2 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Seriously? A threat of what and to whom? Seriously. 

Jo Cox?

[vogie]

12 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

OK so what you are saying is we need right wing racist thugs to police the country because the police are not doing the job you think they should be.

Think I have read about that before somewhere.

 

I am not saying that at all and you know I am not saying that, but hey it all adds to your dramatic bias.

Listen carefully, I will say this only once. We need a police force that will police, no need to put any more words into my mouth, you heard it here first.

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

I am not saying that at all and you know I am not saying that, but hey it all adds to your dramatic bias.

Listen carefully, I will say this only once. We need a police force that will police, no need to put any more words into my mouth, you heard it here first.

So whats wrong with the way the police are policing?

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

So whats wrong with the way the police are policing?

If you don't know what is wrong with the way the police are policing, I really don't think you should be engaging in this debate, are you serious? On ignore.

[Rookiescot]

Just now, vogie said:

If you don't know what is wrong with the way the police are policing, I really don't think you should be engaging in this debate, are you serious? On ignore.

So the police policy of only to respond to violence with violence is wrong?

The VAST majority protesting last week were peaceful. Compare and contrast with this weekends display of racist thuggery (copyright Johnson).

[Kadilo]

39 minutes ago, vogie said:

The police, well I'm doing them a dis-service calling them police, I mean the lefts social workers and minders were a total disgrace and are fully responsible for this weekends disturbances.

Not only unwilling the condemn the rabid, frenzied, banshee hoodlum mob from yesterday but blaming the Police for being fully responsible for getting bottled and attacked. 
 

I think you will find your far right heroes took it on themselves to attack the Police. No one twisted their arm, .........well unless it was to do a Nazi salute. 
 

 
 

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by Kadilo

[Loiner]

32 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

Jo Cox?

A single aggrieved and deranged constituent? Obviously not seriously then. Try find something that would concern or threaten the security services. 

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, robblok said:

That is the police its job, and if the black lives matter had a city permit to go there then they were in their right. No need to take the law into your own hands. 

Unfortunately the police won't do their job and protect public property from the mob of thugs and vandals.

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Unfortunately the police won't do their job and protect public property from the mob of thugs and vandals.

So what should the police have done?

Gone in with tear gas and water cannons to protect the statue of a slaver?

Seriously?

[neverere]

10 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Dont think they were having a picnic , most probably Ant theethers 

Anteaters have picnics ? ????

[vogie]

24 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Not only unwilling the condemn the rabid, frenzied, banshee hoodlum mob from yesterday but blaming the Police for being fully responsible for getting bottled and attacked. 
 

I think you will find your far right heroes took it on themselves to attack the Police. No one twisted their arm, .........well unless it was to do a Nazi salute. 
 

 
 

 

You're having problems what posters write, again and for the last time, there would not have been a melee yesterday if the police had put paid to the screaming rioters the week before, I'm sorry I cannot make it any clearer than that.

[neverere]

2 hours ago, nausea said:

Yeah, these black guys, we're gonna lose for sure. 

We ? 

[Kadilo]

7 minutes ago, vogie said:

You're having problems what posters write, again and for the last time, there would not have been a melee yesterday if the police had put paid to the screaming rioters the week before, I'm sorry I cannot make it any clearer than that.

You have made it perfectly clear. No problem at all. 
You hold the Police totally responsible for being attacked by the viscous far right thugs yesterday. No responsibility laid at their feet whatsoever. 

Just to recap:

”The police, well I'm doing them a dis-service calling them police, I mean the lefts social workers and minders were a total disgrace and are fully responsible for this weekends disturbances.”

Edited June 14, 2020 by Kadilo

[vogie]

Just now, Kadilo said:

You have made it perfectly clear. No problem at all. 
You hold the Police totally responsible for being attacked by the viscous far right thugs yesterday. No responsibility laid at their feet whatsoever. 
 

You are being untruthfull, I said there wouldn't have been a yesterday if blah blah blah, is comprehension a problem with you, I can't make it any clearer. If you think that putting words into my mouth is proving your point you are sadly mistaken.

[Rookiescot]

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

You are being untruthfull, I said there wouldn't have been a yesterday if blah blah blah, is comprehension a problem with you, I can't make it any clearer. If you think that putting words into my mouth is proving your point you are sadly mistaken.

Yeah if only those police had beat down the black people there would never have been a need for racist thugs (copyright Johnson) to have take to the streets to try and beat down those black people.

[Kadilo]

10 minutes ago, vogie said:

You are being untruthfull, I said there wouldn't have been a yesterday if blah blah blah, is comprehension a problem with you, I can't make it any clearer. If you think that putting words into my mouth is proving your point you are sadly mistaken.

Your reluctance to condemn the viscous assaults on Police Officers by the far right with video clear evidence whilst still blaming last weeks disturbances and Police tactics as the reason is quite frankly disgusting. 
 

Moreover you then attempt to discredit the BBCs reporting as a diversionary tactic, in order to defend the indefensible. 
 

 

Here is your chance to put it in your own words as you are clearly struggling. Answer the following question. 
 

Do you condemn the attacks on the Police by the far right thugs in London yesterday? Easy question, yes or no?

Edited June 14, 2020 by Kadilo

[vogie]

5 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Your reluctance to condemn the viscous assaults on Police Officers by the far right with video clear evidence whilst still blaming last weeks disturbances and Police tactics as the reason is quite frankly disgusting. 
 

Moreover you then attempt to discredit the BBCs reporting as a diversionary tactic, in order to defend the indefensible. 
 

 

Here is your chance to put it in your own words as you are clearly struggling. Answer the following question. 
 

Do you condemn the attacks on the Police by the far right thugs in London yesterday? Easy question, yes or no?

Who the hell do you think you are, your constant putting words into my mouth is beyond the pale, blocked, I really have had enough of your accusations.

Edited June 14, 2020 by vogie

[TheDark]

16 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Hmm, you know that looks like Atlanta, USA, not London at all. 
 

Now why would you not mention that...and more so not provide a link to the story?

 

Hmm, that’s a puzzler for sure.. 

Whoops. I wonder how many of these alt right, so called patriotic freedom fighters are able to see the difference and to how many of them the western countries are all just one blurry entity..somewhere out there in the west.

[Kadilo]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

Who the hell do you think you are, your constant putting words into my mouth is beyond the pale, blocked, I really have had enough of you accusations.

Thank you for your answer. That clears that one up. 

[TheDark]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

Who the hell do you think you are, your constant putting words into my mouth is beyond the pale, blocked, I really have had enough of you accusations.

So, as asker previously: "Do you condemn the attacks on the Police by the far right thugs in London yesterday? Easy question, yes or no?"

 

Your answer, please. 

[KhaoNiaw]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

A single aggrieved and deranged constituent? Obviously not seriously then. Try find something that would concern or threaten the security services. 

He was radicalized somehow. How many other lone wolf cases of radicalized right wingers could be waiting to happen (which I think is where police have said that, like Islamic terrorism, the problem of far right terrorism is growing).

Edited June 14, 2020 by KhaoNiaw

[Kadilo]

1 hour ago, TheDark said:

So, as asker previously: "Do you condemn the attacks on the Police by the far right thugs in London yesterday? Easy question, yes or no?"

 

Your answer, please. 

Looks like your question has been ducked too. 

Further confirmation if it was ever needed. 

[nausea]

Far right, far left, it's all the same game, let's have a bit of bovver. Just young men and their mentors doing their thing. Personally, I don't give a monkey's for either side, send them off to a war or something. They'll soon learn the reality of violence. It's not nice or romantic, it's dirty and viscious, and very, very, mucky. Every generation has to learn this lesson anew. We had WW1 then WW2, still learning the lesson it seems. Personally, I'm a great believer in compromise. But then I understand violence. Have your head knocked about a bit and you"ll know what I mean. Luckily, I have a very thick skull.

[torturedsole]

1 hour ago, nausea said:

Have your head knocked about a bit and you"ll know what I mean. 

I concur.  Public protestations are generally innocent enough and can see that being caught up in the atmosphere of collective change for perceived injustices is a noble cause, but there are opposing views and when things turn nasty and your head is suddenly and violently kicked in then a rethink is a usual and appropriate response.  

 

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by torturedsole

[Stargeezr]

If people are protesting peacefully fine. Even in America, how many times do these protests

turn ugly, with buildings getting looted, or set on fire. If this happens during a protest,

how many times do the protesters take pictures of these thugs and try to stop the looting and destruction??  Not often!  This is something to ask yourselves. Any protest that people cannot control 

their group should not have happened. Oh I know many will say, but we got too emotional

and could not control ourselves. Children!  I just do not like seeing many protests

because of the destruction. Also how many times do the protesters dig into their wallets 

to pay the businesses that get looted, or have their buildings set on fire?

Geezer

[metisdead]

An off topic post and a reply has been removed. 

[robblok]

9 hours ago, vogie said:

You're having problems what posters write, again and for the last time, there would not have been a melee yesterday if the police had put paid to the screaming rioters the week before, I'm sorry I cannot make it any clearer than that.

No you can't make it clearer then that you support the right wing because you can't stand it that some slaver statue's got removed. Pittyful actually but it does enforce my view about a lot of people on this forum. Moaning about discrimination in Thailand putting Thais down and at the same time defending right wing thugs. Does not paint a pretty picture. 

 

I would have thought that the how we are sometimes treated here would wake people up to how bad racism can be (and we are not getting that much of it). I guess empathy does not work that way for some people

Edited June 14, 2020 by robblok