NFL: Trump slams Washington Redskins as team re-evaluates name

[Morch]

50 minutes ago, meechai said:

Spoken like a true X-Patriot

 

Eventually when enough of these  lefty termed "not that big of a deals" help topple & usher in a total USA collapse

those X-Patriots who like to cheer the downfall from outside the country they did nothing to ever help

will not have two Indian head nickels to rub together as pensions, stock markets & Social Security go bye bye

 

Oh well "that" will not be that big of a deal ????

 

If the American economy, never mind culture, hangs on football franchise changing team name, then the situation is dire indeed.

[The Barmbeker]

4 hours ago, H1w4yR1da said:

No. Its not.

Are you Sioux or Apache?

[Morch]

37 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I think my two examples are worthy of discussion. 

 

It seems to me that there is a big difference between names like the Redskins and names like the Navajos. The braves may lie somewhere between them. 

 

Can't using names like the Navajos  be seen as recognition to the tribes of people that are the only original Americans? 

 

I don't know that there are many native Americans represented among TVF members (used to be at least a couple who claimed partial heritage without making a big deal about it). What's more or less appropriate, offensive or respectful got to do with perceptions of minorities involved.

[johnpetersen]

6 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I heard a joke that the left now want to ban pianos. More white keys than black = clearly racist. Once it would have been amusing. Now it pales in comparison to the mindless actions they take on a daily basis. That Trump opponents find rewriting history a la 1984 to be "awesome" it is a tiny step from where we are now to more extreme measures(yet oh so necessary in the name of PC)such as all whites being chemically castrated, and all their assets being seized and given to street gangs. A truly sad time to be alive seeing great civilizations under attack from the ignorant and jealous.

You definitely have a point if that tiny step leading to the chemical castration of whites and having all their assets confiscated was a stumble that caused someone to fall down and get a concussion that resulted in a state of psychosis that featured the consequences you touted. Otherwise, not so likely.

[Bluespunk]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

Absolute nonsense and garbage from the do-gooders of this world.

Everyone sees all of this stupid BLM and changing names nonsense as a big joke.

Anyone who thinks this is the way to go has rocks in their head.

Tis tis ..... did someone hurt your feelings.     

Everyone?

 

Don't think so. 

[DavisH]

Rather than changing their name, why doesn't the team so something to support their local native populations - reduced price tickets to games, finding their kid's education, etc. I'm sure the team has plenty of money. Or is this not the US way?

[Thailarry]

I am thrilled to know the USA does not own the franchise on racism and hate.   Simple solution: Poll all the Native Americans and let them decide if it is offensive or not.  When PC got big years ago the Florida State Seminoles came high on the change list.  They went to the active and wealthy tribe for their opinion.  FSU is a powerhouse and winner and the tribe was proud to share their name.  Now how easy was that?  Issue solved.

[johnpetersen]

39 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Rewriting history?

 

Where has history been rewritten?

 

Unless of course you mean all the facts are being discussed?

 

I can see why that might upset some of the maga crowd...the rest of your post is just hyperbolic inaccuracies. 

Well, maybe if someone is illiterate or dyslexic then they might need to learn history via the visual aids under discussion.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

I don't know that there are many native Americans represented among TVF members (used to be at least a couple who claimed partial heritage without making a big deal about it). What's more or less appropriate, offensive or respectful got to do with perceptions of minorities involved.

Not sure I fully understand what you are saying there but I should have probably mentioned  before that I assume most native Americans don't appreciate the more neutral tribe names for teams. It's comic book level, stereotyped, and no connection really to them. But I wonder if such opinions should be all powerful. The intentions aren't bad and falsely romanticizing indigenous peoples isn't exactly a war crime. I guess what Im saying is that lines do need to be drawn on OK vs. not OK. Otherwise what's next banning the name of the city of Milwaukee? 

Edited July 7, 2020 by Jingthing

[johnpetersen]

My advice for President Trump is to follow the advice of a certain person coincidentally also named Donald Trump:

"In 2013, when President Obama said the Redskins should consider changing their name, Mr. Trump criticized him for concerning himself with such an issue. “President should not be telling the Washington Redskins to change their name-our country has far bigger problems!” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter. “FOCUS on them, not nonsense.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-jumps-into-debates-over-bubba-wallace-sports-team-names-11594069995?mod=hp_lista_pos5

 

[bkk6060]

I look at it as a compliment

using these names for teams.

And, nothing better then pounding on the drums and the crowd getting excited during the Tomahawk chop.

[JonnyF]

How about the Washington BAMESkins? Is that Woke enough? Presumably the Chicago White Sox will have to be the Chicago Rainbow sox?????

 

Sunderland FC should change their nickname from the Black Cats to the No White Privilege Cats. Or maybe the Cats of Color? Is that term offensive this week? ????

 

Man Utd's nickname the Red Devils kind of has racist overtones as well. The White devils, now that I could accept, that would be a GREAT reminder for all the horrible white people that built the club to feel guilty about things their ancestors may have done (but most likely didn't) 300 years ago. The hand wringing self loathing liberals would love that. 

 

Laughable.

 

 

[DoctorG]

Maybe the likes of the virtue signalling Nike and Walmart could suggest the name change to the "Sweatshop Workers" team.

[JCauto]

7 hours ago, Yankeesvsredsox said:

 

 In 2016 90 percent of native Americans didn't feel offended by the name !

 

Any source for this completely fabricated claim?

[klauskunkel]

some more options:

no-skins, skinless, shed-skins, multi-skins, thick-skins

[Sujo]

How about trump stop interfering in businesses. Less govt interference and all that.

 

Im sure there are more important things going on that he can stuff up.

[Siamjim]

Cleveland Indians and red skin resembles powerful warriors not racial insults as in many others sport teams

 

[Chomper Higgot]

44 minutes ago, Sujo said:

How about trump stop interfering in businesses. Less govt interference and all that.

 

Im sure there are more important things going on that he can stuff up.

Precisely, the ‘Washington Redskins’ is a private business, it’s entirely up to them if they want to change their name.

 

Why doing so offends people who don’t support the ‘Redkins’ and likely might never have watched any of their games is a mystery.

 

Perhaps there are too many ‘thin skins’ looking for something to be offended over.

 

 

 

[CorpusChristie]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Precisely, the ‘Washington Redskins’ is a private business, it’s entirely up to them if they want to change their name.

 

 

No, they are being forced to change their name by outside forces .

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

No, they are being forced to change their name by outside forces .

Yep, ‘Market Forces’.

 

It’s a thing in the business world.

 

 

[CorpusChristie]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yep, ‘Market Forces’.

 

It’s a thing in the business world.

 

 

Quite probably supported by White supremacists 

[kwonitoy]

3 hours ago, Thailarry said:

I am thrilled to know the USA does not own the franchise on racism and hate.   Simple solution: Poll all the Native Americans and let them decide if it is offensive or not.  When PC got big years ago the Florida State Seminoles came high on the change list.  They went to the active and wealthy tribe for their opinion.  FSU is a powerhouse and winner and the tribe was proud to share their name.  Now how easy was that?  Issue solved.

Its a thing now with my hometown football team the Edmonton Eskimos

There are no Eskimos, the northern First Nation people are Inuit or Dene

 

Some years back they actually went to the Inuit and asked them if they found the term Eskimos hurtful or racist, the councils talked it over and the consensus came back, no, they actually liked it.

 

Last week's uproar in Edmonton?  Gotta change that racist football teams name.

Edited July 7, 2020 by kwonitoy

[CorpusChristie]

45 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why doing so offends people who don’t support the ‘Redkins’ and likely might never have watched any of their games is a mystery.

 

Perhaps there are too many ‘thin skins’ looking for something to be offended over.

Who are these people that are "offended" by the name change ?

Some people may disagree with it, but thats far from being offended by it 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Who are these people that are "offended" by the name change ?

Some people may disagree with it, but thats far from being offended by it 

They are all over this thread.

[Enoon]

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

They are all over this thread.

 

And it is a joy to read their impotent raging against the relentless, implacable, Angel of History.

 

 

 

Edited July 7, 2020 by Enoon

[riclag]

5 hours ago, Morch said:

 

If the American economy, never mind culture, hangs on football franchise changing team name, then the situation is dire indeed.

 Screwing around with names and traditions is an attack on Americas culture ! In this instance, It's Americas past time, Football,Baseball and Basketball ! Ya have to be American to appreciate that!

I have sent out emails to various professional sports organizations recently ,opposing these far left attack tactics by the social justice warrior cults! 

[STALINGRAD]

Do people object to the name Celtics? Cringe at the sight of the mascot spinning the ball? Major League Baseball pressured the Cleveland Indians to get rid of their mascot.But working over thirty years on most of the reservations in the southwest it was by far the favorite hat of tribal members.People are smarter than this and the the association with racism is the agenda of a few...

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

 Screwing around with names and traditions is an attack on Americas culture ! In this instance, It's Americas past time, Football,Baseball and Basketball ! Ya have to be American to appreciate that!

I have sent out emails to various professional sports organizations recently ,opposing these far left attack tactics by the social justice warrior cults! 

Said without an iota of introspection.

 

[Sujo]

15 minutes ago, riclag said:

 Screwing around with names and traditions is an attack on Americas culture ! In this instance, It's Americas past time, Football,Baseball and Basketball ! Ya have to be American to appreciate that!

I have sent out emails to various professional sports organizations recently ,opposing these far left attack tactics by the social justice warrior cults! 

Im sure they will consider your email when they also consider the shareholders and sponsors support of the change.

 

Do let us know their response.

[Sujo]

51 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Who are these people that are "offended" by the name change ?

Some people may disagree with it, but thats far from being offended by it 

The people that pay the bills.