UK COVID-19 daily death count could be scrapped: Telegraph

[Bluespunk]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Academics in a blog post had warned that the way the government health agency calculated the figures was skewed as patients who tested positive for coronavirus, but are successfully treated, will still be counted as dying from the virus "even if they had a heart attack or were run over by a bus three months later".

And exactly how many people fall into this category, I suspect it is very few.

[Thingamabob]

For whatever reason, people who have earlier been infected by covid 19 and recovered, and then died from other causes, have been recorded as dying from covid 19. Early results of the current audit suggest that the number actually dying from the virus is 20k approx.

[Chomper Higgot]

28 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

For whatever reason, people who have earlier been infected by covid 19 and recovered, and then died from other causes, have been recorded as dying from covid 19. Early results of the current audit suggest that the number actually dying from the virus is 20k approx.

‘Excess Deaths’ in the UK during the COVID-19 period are over 64,000, so wherever it is you got you 20K from you need to go back and ask about the missing 44,000.

 

https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-comment/charts-and-infographics/comparing-covid-19-impact-in-the-uk-to-european-countries

[sawadee1947]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

ordered by Health Secretary Matt Hancock

Good man. Obviously he got excellent connections to Russia and China. He learnt how to handle mismanagement and horrible high figures of fatal corona cases ???????? and hiding the truth by telling lies, same as his superior. 

[NeoDinosaw]

6 hours ago, Srikcir said:

 

Agent Orange use in the Vietnam War is still the cause of death now for some veterans. Example, ultimately causing death in 2018 of a veteran who died from Hanson's malignant lung cancer.

 

6 hours ago, Srikcir said:

How many Vietnamese are still dying from this ?   Do they get any compensation from the US ?

 

[3NUMBAS]

docs say they have the right medication now and few go to hospital ICUs and the deaths for this time of year are lower than usual

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1320726/Britain-coronavirus-latest-covid19-news-nhs-treatment-vaccine

 

Britain is finally BEATING coronavirus: Doctors declare huge successes in fight with virus

BRITAIN is finally defeating the coronavirus thanks to improved treatments, a top medic said yesterday.

Edited August 10, 2020 by 3NUMBAS

[Redline]

13 hours ago, scammed said:

it follow the philosophy of co2 going to drown us all in a flood,

a herd in panic is easier to control, manipulate, tax, and impose restrictions on,

such as criminalize movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom

I guess it depends on your leadership-the whole world is not treating it the same-some took control.

 

Every pandemic in history-there was an attempt to take precautions to avoid unnecessary death.  But, you know the best way ????

[Redline]

2 hours ago, NeoDinosaw said:

 

 

Maybe I’m mistaken, but what does that have to do with COVID?

[Redline]

5 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

And exactly how many people fall into this category, I suspect it is very few.

Exactly-it’s an excuse to cover political tracks 

[elliss]

14 hours ago, ezzra said:

sure, no bad news on death, no pressure on the people who are suppose to mange and prevent them, easy way out for all...

 

 Ref . Thailand . 

      World leaders in deceit ...

 

[Maybole]

This report refers to England only.

Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland publish their own figures.

Most newspapers are unable to distinguish England from the entire U. K.

[mommysboy]

17 hours ago, Tug said:

Sounds to me like your government might be trying to hide things don’t stand for it

Usually that's the case isn't it.......  but no it really does look like there's been over-reporting of deaths in England.  The figures have been looking increasingly wrong lately given the low number of actual deaths in hospital.  It's one of the countries that has been relatively transparent with its figures so far.  The problem seems to be counting recovered patients, usually elderly, who recover then die some months later through other causes.  And also counting people who dies at home where covid19 is held attributable because they were frightened of going to hospital to seek treatment for a heart problem for instance.

[Meat Pie 47]

11 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

A Wuhan cover-up. All countries have their reasons to sweep information under the carpet.

Thailand must have a very large carpet

[Meat Pie 47]

8 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

For whatever reason, people who have earlier been infected by covid 19 and recovered, and then died from other causes, have been recorded as dying from covid 19. Early results of the current audit suggest that the number actually dying from the virus is 20k approx.

Yes Donald

[Scott]

Making unsubstantiated claims that numbers have been changed is a serious charge.  Continue to do so without giving a credible source and you will be suspended.  

[Thingamabob]

22 hours ago, Logosone said:

I always back up my claims, unlike other people.

 

You want confirmation that Germany counts anyone who tested positive for Covid19 and died as having died of Covid 19? No problem, here you go:

 

"Germany: All deaths in and outside of hospitals of patients who have tested positive for COVID-19"

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/coronavirus-the-challenge-of-counting-covid-19-deaths/

 

 

Makes no sense, and doesn't mean anything.

[from the home of CC]

the infection rate is increasing (with deaths to follow) so to reduce potential panic they're going to obscure the numbers so people will return to work in person, which they believe is the key to restarting the economy. Unfortunately, the virus doesn't care..