DDC says two virus cases found in Japan might have originated in Thailand

[webfact]

DDC says two virus cases found in Japan might have originated in Thailand

By The Nation

 

 

Two men, one Thai and one Japanese, have tested positive in Japan for Covid-19 after returning to that country from Thailand, Department of Disease Control director-general Dr Suwannachai Wattanayingcharoenchai reported yesterday (August 11).

 

The first case is a 24-year-old Thai construction worker who returned home on July 7 and went back to Japan on August 1, where he was found to be infected, Dr Suwannachai said.

 

Earlier, the man was tested twice under quarantine in hospital in Thailand and was discharged after both results were negative. His mother, three Thai friends, and 28 low-risk contacts have now been tested and all results are negative.

 

The second case involves a 47-year-old Japanese, who tested positive at Haneda airport.

 

The DDC has tracked all the places the man stayed at during his visit to Thailand.

 

Dr Suwannachai said the DDC is in contact with Japan’s health department to find the root of the infection.

 

To screen travellers, Japan uses the new CLEIA (Chemiluminescent enzyme immunoassay) method, which detects Covid-19 infections from saliva samples. This method has not yet been certified by the World Health Organisation. Thailand meanwhile uses the normal RT PCR method to detect the virus.

 

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[ThailandRyan]

These cases along with news reports in Italy as well as at least one other country highlight how widespread the Virus just might be here in Thailand but without testing here no one will ever know.  If this is truthfully what's occurring then I wait with baited breath for the other shoe to drop.

[JonnyF]

Impossible. Thailand COVID free. 
 

Prayut say. Him good people. Rich. Thai.

[4MyEgo]

If there wasn't enough stress out there to deal with, now this.........honey....I'm going to put my head back in the sand, let me know when all of this passes, oh by the way, have you seen my mask ?

 

[Anton9]

Pray that Thais won't find even one asymptomatic local transmission, with the level of paranoia and fear I see I can already imagine the reaction.

[Mavideol]

37 minutes ago, webfact said:

Earlier, the man was tested twice under quarantine in hospital in Thailand and was discharged after both results were negative.

that just shows how good/reliable the tests are here.... quite sure the virus is around and many asymptomatic people don't know they have it, sooner or later Thailand will discover/face the reality, avoiding testing does not make the virus go away

[DoctorG]

48 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

that just shows how good/reliable the tests are here.... quite sure the virus is around and many asymptomatic people don't know they have it, sooner or later Thailand will discover/face the reality, avoiding testing does not make the virus go away

I think this is true of NZ too. 102 days without a recorded positive and they now have 4 cases. It shows that the virus is around with very many asymptomatic  people just going about their business, until they encounter somebody with a low tolerance.

[GAZZPA]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

These cases along with news reports in Italy as well as at least one other country highlight how widespread the Virus just might be here in Thailand but without testing here no one will ever know.  If this is truthfully what's occurring then I wait with baited breath for the other shoe to drop.

Thailand does not test much so it most certainly is widespread. New Zealand reported no new cases for 100 days with 100% lockdown and yet they have just had a new case. there is no stopping it now, we have to find the balance of living with it until we can get a decent, fully tested vaccine. 

 

 

[Xonax]

I am more surprised, that they were even able to travel from Thailand to Japan in July, when many others claim to be stranded here. Did they both quarantine 14 days when arriving in Thailand, or could they by any chance both have brought the virus with them from Japan?

[GAZZPA]

7 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

I think this is true of NZ too. 102 days without a recorded positive and they now have 4 cases. It shows that the virus is around with very many asymptomatic  people just going about their business, until they encounter somebody with a low tolerance.

100% true. It is here to stay until there is a vaccine. I hope Thailand doesn't do the panic buying stuff that New Zealand is going through, that will be a disaster for people who live day to day and week to week...

[Spellforce]

NZ had the same policy as Thailand: borders closed + 14 days quarantine.

Officialy zero new cases for more than 2 months in both countries, and 2 days ago they found 4 new local cases in Auckland.

 

It looks like banning international flights doesn't help to stop the covid, once one country has that virus there is no way to stop it.

[Bender Rodriguez]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The first case is a 24-year-old Thai construction worker who returned home on July 7 and went back to Japan on August 1, where he was found to be infected, Dr Suwannachai said.

strange story to come home for a few days on a "construction" worker "visa" ?

[timendres]

 

Quote

 

2.2 Situation of Patients with Suspected Symptoms of COVID-19 in Thailand. On 7 August 2020 at 12.00: 

      Thailand announced that 1,461 additional people met the criteria for PUI, raising the total to 385,860 PUI, as shown in Table 2.

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/situation/situation-no216-080863.pdf

[GAZZPA]

3 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

strange story to come home for a few days on a "construction" worker "visa" ?

Is he asymptomatic? I hope Thailand don't have an outbreak and are not testing enough to pick up on it, or even worse they try to cover it up, it spreads so fast as we all know very well by now.

[GAZZPA]

17 minutes ago, Spellforce said:

NZ had the same policy as Thailand: borders closed + 14 days quarantine.

Officialy zero new cases for more than 2 months in both countries, and 2 days ago they found 4 new local cases in Auckland.

 

It looks like banning international flights doesn't help to stop the covid, once one country has that virus there is no way to stop it.

Very true my friend, my personal view is the countries who keep banging the drum about how wonderful they are should be more realistic about this virus.. I saw on the news this morning that New Zealand has gone into panic buying mode.. People need to be calm and realise the statement that you made, it is here to stay. Manage it until a vaccine and keep your economy moving as much as possible... 

[TeaMonkey]

Who knows how many people have it when the main symptom is feeling absolutely fine. 

[spiekerjozef]

Got it in the airplane. No wonder nobody wants to fly.

[Spellforce]

3 minutes ago, TeaMonkey said:

Who knows how many people have it when the main symptom is feeling absolutely fine. 

We have to observe: EVERY countries who have passed their peak of the epidemic then:

- there are still some new cases, no second wave

- after that peak, the deaths are ridiculeously low

 

Not any scientist can explain it, but that's a fact.

[ICELANDMAN]

Fake news

[GAZZPA]

4 minutes ago, Spellforce said:

We have to observe: EVERY countries who have passed their peak of the epidemic then:

- there are still some new cases, no second wave

- after that peak, the deaths are ridiculeously low

 

Not any scientist can explain it, but that's a fact.

Not sure what you mean. Not goading you but I think we know very well don't we? Asymptomatic symptoms hide the virus, we are all practicing social distancing so it means it is not transmitting so easily but it still will by some smaller numbers. The death rate is falling as doctors are becoming better at treating the symptoms. 

[Spellforce]

1 minute ago, GAZZPA said:

Not sure what you mean.

My thought was about the topic: a few people coming back to Japan with the "thai" covid-19:

- the virus can't be stoped once one country has it

- is it really important to count the "new cases" / "imported cases" in a country who has allready reached his peak of the epidemic (= few deaths) ?

[ThailandRyan]

31 minutes ago, timendres said:

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/situation/situation-no216-080863.pdf

However, they do not put that out in the mainstream media anymore, and you have to go looking for it like most of do, having it bookmarked also assists.

[KarenBravo]

3 minutes ago, ICELANDMAN said:

Fake news

A term so over-used that it's become almost meaningless. Though, for most people that utter it, it just means news that doesn't fit their preconceived notion of what the facts should be.

 

 

[GAZZPA]

9 minutes ago, Spellforce said:

My thought was about the topic: a few people coming back to Japan with the "thai" covid-19:

- the virus can't be stoped once one country has it

- is it really important to count the "new cases" / "imported cases" in a country who has allready reached his peak of the epidemic (= few deaths) ?

Ok, don't really know how you would know if it is imported or not. I thought Japan is saying he arrived in their country with it. If he is asymptomatic he came from Thailand with it,, probably,, but who knows. 

 

I don't think any country has reached anywhere near it's peak, they have reduced it dramatically with lockdowns but that's all.

 

I think we all have to accept it is unstoppable and we are having to learn to live with it for now, if we do get a vccine then that could change but until then we are stuck with it no matter what. It's the asymptomatic nature of the virus that make sit so difficult to track and lock down. 

[FarFlungFalang]

14 minutes ago, GAZZPA said:

Not sure what you mean. Not goading you but I think we know very well don't we? Asymptomatic symptoms hide the virus, we are all practicing social distancing so it means it is not transmitting so easily but it still will by some smaller numbers. The death rate is falling as doctors are becoming better at treating the symptoms. 

"we are all practicing social distancing"I'm not sure I would agree with all or even most maybe some are practicing social distancing in my neck of the woods,especially on the school bus and down at the village shop and so on as things here seem to have gone back to the "old normal".

[Spellforce]

3 minutes ago, GAZZPA said:

I don't think any country has reached anywhere near it's peak

... but some other scientists are talking about the cross imunity, some countries close to China (as Thailand) could have their population > 50% immunized before that covid-19. So what previsions are the best, can we allready pretend to explain how is working that virus ?

I think today we can only observe and the fact is after the peak of the epidemics, deaths are falling.

[FarFlungFalang]

2 minutes ago, GAZZPA said:

I don't think any country has reached anywhere near it's peak, they have reduced it dramatically with lockdowns but that's all.

I think it may have raced through Thailand from about last November to March and testing here in Thailand only caught the tail end of it.I know there were a lot of flu like symptoms and large numbers of viral pneumonia deaths being reported at that time.Pretty hard to prove one way or another without intensive testing.No stopping time and tide and maybe virus can be added to that list.  

[Spellforce]

1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I think it may have raced through Thailand from about last November to March and testing here in Thailand only caught the tail end of it.

That's exactly what I'm thinking, from december to march hundreds of thousands of chinese tourists came to Thailand with their covid-19.

How could it be possible that the covid-19 1st wave only started in march in Thailand ? (march as Europe & USA...)

 

PS: in january/february/march I and many of my friends were a little sick a few days during that time.

[Bluetongue]

3 minutes ago, Spellforce said:

That's exactly what I'm thinking, from december to march hundreds of thousands of chinese tourists came to Thailand with their covid-19.

How could it be possible that the covid-19 1st wave only started in march in Thailand ? (march as Europe & USA...)

 

PS: in january/february/march I and many of my friends were a little sick a few days during that time.

I know I flew in on 6 Jan about three days later, sick as a dog for a few days, son who picked me up airport was sick as a dog after that, then the wife, by mid Feb. All symptoms were flu like with lethargy thrown in. Another reason death rate falling in Western countries is they are taking quite extraordinary measures to keep it out of nursing homes and other situations like that, hence the housing commission towers, "vertical cruise ships" in Melbourne. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

16 hours ago, Spellforce said:

NZ had the same policy as Thailand: borders closed + 14 days quarantine.

Officialy zero new cases for more than 2 months in both countries, and 2 days ago they found 4 new local cases in Auckland.

 

It looks like banning international flights doesn't help to stop the covid, once one country has that virus there is no way to stop it.

 

Silly talk...

 

So Auckland found a couple of new cases, despite their precautions... Sometimes people slip thru. Sometimes test rests are in error.

 

But if anyone wants to choose between Auckland and the precautionless U.S., with 160,000+ dead and adding 1000+ new deaths daily, it's not a very tough choice.

 

Keep the masks on. Keep your social distance. Stay home when possible. Avoid crowded, close contact settings. Wash your hands regularly.  And stay healthy....  unlike the U.S.