Trump must give his tax returns to NY prosecutor, judge rules

[mtls2005]

2 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

the irs disagrees.

 

Sorry. I meant "prosecutions".

 

can't see mnuchin making a referral to barr though.

 

 

 

[Eric Loh]

Any tax frauds that can be prosecuted will be a bonus. I just want to know if he is as rich as he says he is, charitable as he claim to be and whether he paid any taxes as he routinely called out persons or companies taking advantage of tax codes to avoid paying taxes.  

[Chomper Higgot]

What’s all the fuss?!

 

Trump made a campaign promise to

release his taxes.

 

An honorable man would not need a court order to make him keep his word, much less fight in the courts to avoid keeping his word.

[klauskunkel]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

"This is a continuation of the most disgusting witch hunt in the history of our country," Trump told reporters.

Well, if the boot fits, little witch...

[opalred]

still claiming his kids as dependents?

[Boon Mee]

8 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Interesting timing.  ????

Indeed. 

They're sure to get him now! ???? 

[Proboscis]

I love the way Trump talks about this being the worst witch-hunt ever. Apart from the actual witch-hunts back several hundred years ago, just looking for a person's tax returns was the least of it when it came to the McCarthy era when the FBI and other agencies teamed up with congressional committees to hunt down everyone who was even friends with someone who might have signed a petition or a membership card back when they were a student. Destroyed the lives and careers of many people. And one of the people who was leading the charge was a lawyer called Roy Cohn who was later to legally represent someone called Donald Trump. Hmmmmm.

[TheFishman1]

 I thought Trump promised like five years ago after the audit was over he would shut all his taxes I guess that was a big lie I wonder why Trump doesn’t wanna show his taxes returns maybe it’s because all roads lead to Russia Trump has been the worst president for America in the history every time he says something he lies this time it’s cost hundreds of thousands of lives and he’s wrecked economy in another country thinks America has gone downhill all because of Trump 

[Laza 45]

3 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

i don't doubt that he's a fraud, but there's a flaw in your reasoning.  the irs has all of trump's tax returns and would have audited him, probably annually....especially under the obama regime with his weaponized irs.  if there's anything illegal there, the irs would surely have caught it.  if not enough to prosecute, it certainly would have been leaked.

 

i'm sure he's NOT paying taxes, as he had nearly a billion bucks of losses from his latest casino bankruptcy to carry forward and apply to future profits.  the fact that someone pays no tax has little relation to their richiness.  the wealthy can afford excellent lawyers and accountants, they have friends in congress, and lobbyists to sow green envelopes and reap delicious tax breaks for the privileged few.  only the little people pay taxes, right google?

Fraud is where they will get him..  undervaluing properties and income to reduce tax... overvaluing to get loans.. a no no.. Money laundering for Russian oligarchs.. and laundering through Deutsche Bank which has already handed over details of dealings with Trump.. The Trump empire is a different monster to Trump the President.. Once they have access to his business records they can proceed to dismantle his empire with fines and appropriation of properties..  These are seasoned prosecutors who take down organized crime...'mafia' if you like.. they will destroy Trump whether he looses the election or not.. 

[TheFishman1]

Hey you’re right Trump learned a lot from that lawyer Roy  Cohen  Trump has been the worst thing to happen in America

[Bluespunk]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Trump quickly appealed the decision and filed an emergency motion to delay turning over his tax returns, saying enforcing the subpoena would cause him irreparable harm by disclosing his "private, confidential information."

Why’s that trump?

 

Other presidents have done this without suffering. 
 

Or do you have something to hide...

Edited August 21, 2020 by Bluespunk

[fvw53]

9 hours ago, Tug said:

Good enough bs fork them over nothing to hide nothing to fear humm........

This is a poison pill farmed out by Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller to the highly competent NYSD prosecutors ...who are state prosecutors (i.e. not federal)

it is all suspected to be about the laundering of Russian money by Deutsche Bank to buy Trump real estate 

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/332270-eric-trump-in-2014-we-dont-rely-on-american-banks-we-have-all-the-funding-we

 

To illustrate how scared Donald Trump is ....

- He fired Preet Bharara the previous US Attorney for the NYSD and replaced him with GOP supporter Geoffrey Berman after interviewing him first....but Berman did not want to bend the law to protect Trump

- This triggered the intervention of Trump crony Attorney General Bill Bar and then also Berman was fired last month

 

This means Trump has to win the November election or he might end up in jail 

 

 

[stevenl]

12 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Why’s that trump?

 

Other presidents have done this without suffering. 
 

Or do you have something to hide...

I think he is right, it will cause him irreparable harm.

[jcsmith]

9 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Interesting timing.  ????

This ordeal has been going on for a long time already. 

[soalbundy]

Do my tax returns have to match up with my book keeping.....just asking.

[Phoenix Rising]

1 hour ago, TheFishman1 said:

 I thought Trump promised like five years ago after the audit was over he would shut all his taxes I guess that was a big lie I wonder why Trump doesn’t wanna show his taxes returns maybe it’s because all roads lead to Russia.....

Indeed, all roads lead to Russia. In Putin's safe are certainly documents regarding shady business deals that has led to trump being Putin's b***h and probably the first straight up traitor to disgrace the office of the president.

Edited August 21, 2020 by Phoenix Rising

[holy cow cm]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

saying enforcing the subpoena would cause him irreparable harm by disclosing his "private, confidential information."

 

This guy is the biggest other word for donkey. Jark arseee

[Dap]

10 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Interesting timing.  ????

Not just "interesting", but more "Perfect" timing could anyone wish for 

[Dap]

10 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Yes, it will be interesting to see him try and sleaze his way out of this!

and try he will.

[Dap]

6 hours ago, crobe said:

Prisoner swap - Donald Trump for Edward Snowden

Certainly an outstanding suggestion!

[spidermike007]

If his taxes are revealed, they will not only show him to be one of the most miserly humans around, they will also reveal an income far lower than he brags about, exaggerated under valuation of assets, and many other inaccuracies and deceits.

 

And if compared with his loan applications, they will show a consistent pattern of both tax fraud, and bank fraud. That is just who he is. Whether the agencies have the will to pursue an ex-president or not, remains to be seen. It is not something that has ever happened in the US, as far as I am aware. 

[johnnybangkok]

Tick tick Donald. Tick tock 

[tomacht8]

Anyone who lies a lot in daily life also cheats on their tax returns. 

[Credo]

I doubt the court is going to try to 2nd guess the IRS on the issue of taxes owed.   I don't even think the IRS cares whether income is legal or not, as long as you pay your taxes on it.   They are revenue collecting agency, not a law enforcement agency.   

The taxes, however, may show less-than-savory dealings and that is what the court would be interested in.   I think they have a lot of the Trump Organization records already.  I think they also have the CFO's agreement to cooperate.   

[Ireland32]

16 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Interesting timing.  ????

Should of been done years ago 

[Captain Monday]

The IRS has Trumps' records going back decades.

For some reason he desperately does not want the public to see them,

we never will. Just more proof Trump is a fraud, a compulsive liar and 

unpleasant excuse for a human being  Why should Trump care ? His followers won't. 

 

[Paul Henry]

Trump cannot hand over tax documents because the are still under audit. The good news is he has promised to show them to America when the audit is finished. So why don't we all just wait for Donald to carry out his promise.

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, Paul Henry said:

Trump cannot hand over tax documents because the are still under audit. The good news is he has promised to show them to America when the audit is finished. So why don't we all just wait for Donald to carry out his promise.

Because the law doesnt stop him showing his records while under audit. All he has to do is say the word.

[FritsSikkink]

On ‎8‎/‎21‎/‎2020 at 6:41 AM, Kelsall said:

Interesting timing.  ????

Timing? He has been hiding his taxes for over 3.5 years. He will go down for tax / bank fraud.

Edited August 22, 2020 by FritsSikkink

[mtls2005]

4 hours ago, Paul Henry said:

Trump cannot hand over tax documents because the are still under audit.

 

Of course he can hand over his returns while they are under audit.

 

I think that rudy g., among others, have revealed that the audits are complete, save for 2019.

 

Deducting the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels, via subtrefuge (funneled to cohen) probably wasn't a wise move?

 

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2020 by mtls2005