Black man shot in back by police in Wisconsin city, governor says, curfew imposed

[mikebike]

9 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I assume you are a small arms expert to call me out on what I know. 

I assume u r both internet know-it-alls...

[EVENKEEL]

1 minute ago, mikebike said:

I assume u r both internet know-it-alls...

Nope, 17 yrs of qualifying 9 mm, shotgun and M-14. And you?

[Tippaporn]

Democrat Mayor John Antaramian stated to reporters Monday afternoon, "Rioting and looting is not something that is acceptable in this community, and therefore that also has consequences."  So what ensues?  Two nights of rioting, looting and arson.  He moved his presser into a public safety building which was attacked by rioters and a door was snapped off its hinges before police in riot gear pepper-sprayed them.

 

"Regrettably, in attempting to hopefully calm people down, I was not overly successful," Antaramian said.

 

What a bimbo.  You're going to attempt to reason with rioters?  What a fool.

 

Edited August 26, 2020 by Tippaporn

[mikebike]

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

Nope, 17 yrs of qualifying 9 mm, shotgun and M-14. And you?

You realize you are trying to CV a random Internet forum, right?

 

A - no one cares;

B - no one believes you.

[Pilotman]

1 hour ago, Logosone said:

I agree that there is a possibility that police have acted less competently than would be desirable.

 

Nevertheless I disagree somewhat that if anarchy were to ensue because of violent protests that is solely because of this issue. Obviously the people who use violence to express their political aims have to bear responsibility for the destruction they cause.

abuse of power deserves to be challenged, with violence if necessary.  That is often the only reason that change happens, unfortunately.   In the UK, Northern Ireland showed us that.  You don't have to like it, or take part in it, to know that it is a universal truth.   

[bert bloggs]

46 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

abuse of power deserves to be challenged, with violence if necessary.  That is often the only reason that change happens, unfortunately.   In the UK, Northern Ireland showed us that.  You don't have to like it, or take part in it, to know that it is a universal truth.   

Yes and in N Ireland it was the people marching in the streets against the rioters and killers that stopped it . that and the British Army .

[Curt1591]

1 hour ago, Pilotman said:

I would like to think that I would be peaceful and restrained in my actions, but when the Authorities act as they do, goodness knows how I would react in turn. 

To understand the power of restraint, search "Cannon Hinnant". 

[riclag]

4 hours ago, Sujo said:

The police would not have known anything about him or his priors, so its irrelevant.

 

What is relevant is that he was trying to do the right thing bteaking up two women arguing.

 

What is relevant is police immediately thought he was the problem.

 

That is institutional racism, black man, must be his fault.

How do you know what the police thought,sad!

Since you know it all what happen behind the car? What happen from the time he broke up a fight till he got shot, while evading police commands!

 

Maybe I missed it . How  long did this go on for!

 

What p'ss me off is why they don't come out with more info! Why did the police have guns drawn! What events in the last couple of weeks took place locally! Does the local law enforcement have past issues! Many many unanswered questions !

Edited August 26, 2020 by riclag

[jvs]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If you don't use violence nothing changes.

Very true,peaceful protests are not heard.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, bert bloggs said:

Yes and in N Ireland it was the people marching in the streets against the rioters and killers that stopped it . that and the British Army .

I always thought it was the IRA bombing Mrs. Thatcher in Brighton that scared the UK government into submission.

..... and I was living in Brighton at the time.

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, jvs said:

Very true,peaceful protests are not heard.

 

5 minutes ago, jvs said:

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If you don't use violence nothing changes.

Very true,peaceful protests are not heard.

Maybe in your country!  The thread is Wisconsin! Are you suggesting to condone violence as a means to make change while disregarding the law 

 

[BritManToo]

Just now, riclag said:

Maybe in your country!  The thread is Wisconsin! Are you suggesting to condone violence as a means to make change while disregarding the law 

If I were black and living in the USA, I'd be out burning the entire country to the ground.

Edited August 26, 2020 by BritManToo

[CorpusChristie]

 

 

  A few protestors been shot today in Kenosha

[riclag]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

If I were black and living in the USA, I'd be out burning the entire country to the ground.

Well!  I wouldn't I like it to much! 

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, mikebike said:

You realize you are trying to CV a random Internet forum, right?

 

A - no one cares;

B - no one believes you.

I didn't realize shooting guns impresses you so much.

[Phoenix Rising]

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I didn't realize shooting guns impresses you so much.

He didn't say that, did he. But you assuming that that's what he meant says a lot about you.

[Mama Noodle]

Police scanner audio of the Blake situation. 

 

It appears police did know he had a warrant, and that he was not "helping" anyone, he had taken a woman's keys and didn't want to give them back:

 

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According to the audio obtained by Madison365, someone called police to report that Blake was at her home and wasn’t supposed to be, and that he had taken her keys and was refusing to give them back. A dispatcher relayed this message to patrol officers at about 5:11 pm Sunday.

 

About 30 seconds later, she let patrol officers know that there was “an alert at this address for a 99 for this subject,” apparently to indicate that a warrant had been issued for Blake’s arrest. Court records indicate a warrant was issued on three charges — two misdemeanors and one G-class felony — on July 7. Court records indicate no previous criminal charges in the state of Wisconsin.

 

About a minute after the initial call, the dispatcher indicated that Blake was leaving the premises, and that the woman who had initially called had hung up.

 

Listen to the police scanner audio:

 

https://madison365.com/kenohsa-police-opened-fire-less-than-5-minutes-after-being-called-scanner-audio/

[Mama Noodle]

And after what, this is the third? Fourth city to be set alight and people murdered during riots? 

 

Democrat governers STILL allow their cities to burn and businesses to be destroyed and people to be assaulted and killed out of nothing but pure political optics, and the mainstream media STILL refuses to cover it in the context and capacity if what's actually happening on the ground with mostly independent and citizen journalists being the only ones with the balls to actually catch all this chaos on video. 

 

Democratic Governor Tony Evers Rejected Hundreds Of National Guard Troops Police Needed Before Shootings: White House

 

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Democratic Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers rejected the Trump administration’s offer to send in hundreds of National Guard troops into Kenosha to maintain law and order on Tuesday, which came just hours before two people were shot and killed during another night of violence in the city.

 

“Governor should call in the National Guard in Wisconsin,” Trump tweeted. “It is ready, willing, and more than able. End problem FAST!”

 

White House Senior Communications Advisor Ben Williamson revealed more details of what happened, writing: “Local law enforcement in Wisconsin have told the White House they need at least 750 National Guard tonight. Governor Evers is only sending 250. Today, Mark Meadows called the Governor and offered 500 additional guard to meet the police needs. Governor Evers declined.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/democratic-governor-tony-evers-rejected-hundreds-of-national-guard-troops-police-needed-before-shootings-white-house

[sherwood]

Just in... White women shot in the chest.

Stop it you stupid over the top media believing clowns.

Next thing is Covid starts world war three.

No China bought that one itself.

[Cryingdick]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If you don't use violence nothing changes.

The more widespread and extreme the violence, the quicker the change.

Our whole civilisation is based on violence/threat of violence.

 

If the black people of America want change, they should attack corporate holdings.

Burn everything owned by companies listed on the stock market.

Hit the shareholders, their dividends, their pensions and things would soon change.

Don't attack your neighbourhood mom and pop stores, that just harms yourselves.

 

The problem with that theory is that people who live and do business in those areas support the police. Anybody trying to destroy them would learn really quickly who holds the big stick. 

 

It's one thing to terrorize a small area of ghetto where people are afraid to call the cops. It is quite another to attempt to prey upon the strong. 

Edited August 26, 2020 by Cryingdick

[Scott]

Off-topic, troll posts and replies removed.  

 

[bodga]

On 8/24/2020 at 6:14 PM, Puchaiyank said:

Most people in the US agree that there is a need for wholesale police reform.

 

The irony of the news reporting is that police mistreating blacks is a fraction of the black on black crime which largely goes unreported. 

 

Why aren't the blacks policing their own neighborhoods?

because black  lives dont matter unless  you  happen to  be a white person

[Scott]

Troll post removed.

 

[bodga]

On 8/24/2020 at 5:07 PM, snoop1130 said:

"We stand against excessive use of force and immediate escalation when engaging with Black Wisconsinites."

more racism  then,  they  could  remove the "black" comment  entirely

[bodga]

On 8/25/2020 at 7:38 AM, BritManToo said:

Not irony, the police are employed to stop crime, and here they are committing crimes.

What's their justification for shooting someone, who's unarmed, in the back more than once?

 

The police need to know, if they shoot an unarmed person they will lose their job and spend the rest of their life in jail.

even  when  that  person may  be  reaching  for  a  gun eh?

[bodga]

On 8/25/2020 at 8:13 AM, bendejo said:

f you do shoot at all you aim for the leg

because  handguns are so accurate and  legs  dont  contain major arteries that will bleed you to death very quickly...........huh

[simple1]

9 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Police scanner audio of the Blake situation. 

 

It appears police did know he had a warrant, and that he was not "helping" anyone, he had taken a woman's keys and didn't want to give them back:

So what, doesn't justify shooting the guy in the back seven times. Let's see if charges are laid for attempted murder or whatever the prosecutors find appropriate to prove 'beyond reasonable doubt'.

[simple1]

10 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

 

  A few protestors been shot today in Kenosha

Apparently the shooter is a 17 year old member of a white militia, now been charged with murder.

 

https://www.vox.com/2020/8/26/21402951/kyle-rittenhouse-jacob-blake-kenosha

[Scott]

Troll post reported and removed.  

 

[Puchaiyank]

1 hour ago, bodga said:

because black  lives dont matter unless  you  happen to  be a white person

Very troubling statement...????