webfact Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Finance Ministry sent evidence of THAI mismanagement, corruption By The Nation A Transport Ministry panel on corruption filed 18 documents of evidence against Thai Airways International (THAI) with the Finance Ministry on Tuesday, pending an investigation into mismanagement of the debt-ridden airline. As a state agency, THAI racked up about Bt250 billion in debts before asking for court-supervised restructuring earlier this year. The Transport Ministry panel found THAI had sold discounted tickets to agents, resulting in losses of billions per year. According to Komkit Wongsomboon, who heads the panel, the corruption involved incentives for ticket-sellers based on the volume of tickets sold rather than their value or resulting sales deficit. More evidence of graft was found in the maintenance department, where the hourly overtime rate of Bt1,500 was inflated to Bt2,000-Bt3,000 for 200 to 300 workers, resulting in losses totalling Bt2 billion a year. The panel also seized on the disastrous decision to buy 10 Airbus 340s for about Bt100 billion from 2004. Rising maintenance costs meant the company lost money on all 10 jets, nine of which lost value after being decommissioned and stored at U-Tapao Airport. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30393870 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-09-02 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 OK, if you can see where it went , get it back. Ensure houses and assets are seized. But they wont, too many connected people 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Poet Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) Some countries simply aren't intellectually equipped to have a national airline. Expect to see THAI snapped up by Ryanair before the end of the year. Edited September 1, 2020 by Poet 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dimitriv Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 Maybe they can set up a committee to think about it. 3 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bassosa Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 This is hopeful. Maybe they'll make an example out of Thai airways and really go after a few key persons. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 Report will probably be buried 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kadilo Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 “Thai Finance Minister Predee submits resignation” .........”<deleted> this, I’m off!” 6 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grumpy John Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 Thailand and corruption. A country where assumptions become reality! ???? 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 WOW, what an amazing revelation corruption at Thai airways, who would ever have thought that.???????? 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 hours ago, webfact said: Finance Ministry sent evidence of THAI mismanagement, corruption First the "Boss" debacle now the "Thai" debacle, I'm almost ready to think corruption is endemic in the whole of Thai society! ???? 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Bassosa said: This is hopeful. Maybe they'll make an example out of Thai airways and really go after a few key persons. Don't hold your breath waiting! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChipButty Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 Must be some big fat off shore banks accounts somewhere, follow the money 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Bassosa said: This is hopeful. Maybe they'll make an example out of Thai airways and really go after a few key persons. Nice point but I'm not holding my breath, still a lot of powerful ruthless people in the LOS, many of whom have shared in massive spoils, they will leave no stone unturned to ensure they are never revealed. doesn't cost much to arrange a killing or arrange deadly traffic accidents, to seriously intimidate people. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Isn't that the norm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pixelaoffy Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 Loss of face ! Funneled billions into the national airline that could and should have been spend in reform as well money for more important investment for its people ! Miserable failure Thailand 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelaoffy Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, scorecard said: Nice point but I'm not holding my breath, still a lot of powerful ruthless people in the LOS, many of whom have shared in massive spoils, they will leave no stone unturned to ensure they are never revealed. doesn't cost much to arrange a killing or arrange deadly traffic accidents, to seriously intimidate people. Absolutely! Inside and outside of the country people go missing and likely dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 4 hours ago, dimitriv said: Maybe they can set up a committee to think about it. Last report said they were seriously considering thinking about that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, PatOngo said: First the "Boss" debacle now the "Thai" debacle, I'm almost ready to think corruption is endemic in the whole of Thai society! ???? Sarcasm at it's finest noted and appreciated. Endemic corruption is just part of the DNA here and is an observed trait that becomes normalized in everyday life. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 4 hours ago, dimitriv said: Maybe they can set up a committee to think about it. Better yet...let's make O-A Visa holders buy corruption insurance policies... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, tonray said: Better yet...let's make O-A Visa holders buy corruption insurance policies... Ouch, now that hurt a little bit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbeNormal Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, webfact said: As a state agency, THAI racked up about Bt250 billion in debts before asking for court-supervised restructuring earlier this year. how much money did senior executives and board members accumulate over this time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Never forget the free flights for those in power that bumped fair paying passengers in first class. I was so disenfranchised and why I stopped flying Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Poet Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Never forget the free flights for those in power that bumped fair paying passengers in first class. I was so disenfranchised and why I stopped flying Thai. When Ryanair take THAI over, instead of giving free first class tickets to the generals and hiso's, they'll only give them to Irish passport holders. Edited September 2, 2020 by Poet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 Until someone decides to stop moving offenders sideways instead of giving them long Prison sentences along with seizing all their family assets this sort of thing will continue forever. Not likely to happen though as the head of the fish is as rotten as the rest of the carcass ! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 "THAI had sold discounted tickets to agents, resulting in losses of billions per year" Probably going to be the target for major losses, by the sound of this report. Pointing fingers at the big players in the Thai Airways ongoing scams, likely won't happen as usual and prosecutions will be zero IMO. I can imagine there's a huge rug to lift up to make this fiasco disappear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2talk Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said: I can imagine there's a huge rug to lift up to make this fiasco disappear. ROFL it's generally pretty transparent - corruption is fine until someone goes out of favour with the richest boss of them all. When he's bored, or someone's just not useful enough anymore, then a good news story uncovers it so that things get shuffled to get more useful people installed. 99% of news here's pretty boring - the system is protected fiercely by royalists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 40 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Never forget the free flights for those in power that bumped fair paying passengers in first class. I was so disenfranchised and why I stopped flying Thai. Not just those in power got free tickets family members like every Tom Dick and Harry could get one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soi3eddie Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said: "THAI had sold discounted tickets to agents, resulting in losses of billions per year" Probably going to be the target for major losses, by the sound of this report. Pointing fingers at the big players in the Thai Airways ongoing scams, likely won't happen as usual and prosecutions will be zero IMO. I can imagine there's a huge rug to lift up to make this fiasco disappear. Get rid of the "agents" get a better website, promote that well and sell cheaper tickets online to fill planes. Oh, one problem, no more easy First Class freebies for "well connected or influential" people that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, Poet said: When Ryanair take THAI over, instead of giving free first class tickets to the generals and hiso's, they'll only give them to Irish passport holders. And you get to keep the spoon supplied for the baked bean trough in the aisle at feeding time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soi3eddie Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: More evidence of graft was found in the maintenance department, where the hourly overtime rate of Bt1,500 was inflated to Bt2,000-Bt3,000 for 200 to 300 workers, resulting in losses totalling Bt2 billion a year. I'm not saying "maintenance workers" are blameless but targeting them is a distraction from highlighting more major wrongdoing by the bigger players in the shambles of the company that is (was) Thai Airways. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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