Trump denies report that he spoke disparagingly of U.S. war dead

[thaibreakfast]

7 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Oh, it was Trumps fault that my ex always blamed everyone else  for everything , OK

Hey, she learned from the best. Or is it the worst?

[Opl]

11 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Oh, it was Trumps fault that my ex always blamed everyone else  for everything , OK

So now you know how Melania feels

Edited September 6, 2020 by Opl

[Redline]

DT is scum, plain and simple -no reason to sugarcoat-he’s all in for himself 

[opalred]

after 3000 lies and false statements/ you would have to be brain dead to believe him

[Jingthing]

22 minutes ago, Redline said:

DT is scum, plain and simple -no reason to sugarcoat-he’s all in for himself 

Yes and the people trying to defend him acting like the now well verified reports of his sick comments on the military would mostly still support him if all the comments were on live video.

Edited September 6, 2020 by Jingthing

[stevenl]

27 minutes ago, opalred said:

after 3000 lies and false statements/ you would have to be brain dead to believe him

Did you forget a 0, or are you talking about last month only?

[CorpusChristie]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes and the people trying to defend him acting like the now well verified reports of his sick comments on the military would mostly still support him if all the comments were on live video.

Could you post those verified reports that confirm he said what he is alleged to have said ?

[Sujo]

5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Could you post those verified reports that confirm he said what he is alleged to have said ?

I thought you were only asking, then retracted the question.

 

Hint, when even fox state tv confirms it.

Edited September 6, 2020 by Sujo

[jcsmith]

For fun here's the official count as of a month ago from the WAPO. This is from July 13th. 

 

Quote

 

It took President Trump 827 days to top 10,000 false and misleading claims in The Fact Checker’s database, an average of 12 claims a day.

But on July 9, just 440 days later, the president crossed the 20,000 mark — an average of 23 claims a day over a 14-month period, which included the events leading up to Trump’s impeachment trial, the worldwide pandemic that crashed the economy and the eruption of protests over the death of George Floyd in police custody.

 

 

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/13/president-trump-has-made-more-than-20000-false-or-misleading-claims/

 

You really can not believe anything this guy tells you.

Edited September 6, 2020 by jcsmith

[Tug]

41 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Could you post those verified reports that confirm he said what he is alleged to have said ?

Dude he is what he is if you are comfortable carrying water for him by all means do so the majority of us are going to call it as we see it he’s reaping what he has sown 

[MajarTheLion]

There are now more NAMED sources who say this Atlantic story is BS than there are anonymous sources that say it's true.

 

Journalism is dead. Anonymous propaganda now dominates the landscape of political information in the age of intense hatred for Trump.

[polpott]

8 minutes ago, MajarTheLion said:

There are now more NAMED sources who say this Atlantic story is BS than there are anonymous sources that say it's true.

 

Journalism is dead. Anonymous propaganda now dominates the landscape of political information in the age of intense hatred for Trump.

Trump is the master of anonymous propaganda. His story about a planeload of Antifa "travelling from somewhere to somewhere else, with gear" was a classic.

[Sujo]

15 minutes ago, MajarTheLion said:

There are now more NAMED sources who say this Atlantic story is BS than there are anonymous sources that say it's true.

 

Journalism is dead. Anonymous propaganda now dominates the landscape of political information in the age of intense hatred for Trump.

Of course they are. Who are the named sources?

[Morch]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Of course they are. Who are the named sources?

 

Toldme. Mr. Someone Toldme. Formerly with Every1knows, now with Manysay.

[Tug]

26 minutes ago, MajarTheLion said:

There are now more NAMED sources who say this Atlantic story is BS than there are anonymous sources that say it's true.

 

Journalism is dead. Anonymous propaganda now dominates the landscape of political information in the age of intense hatred for Trump.

Many people are saying...............

[Scott]

A troll post has been reported and removed.

 

[ballpoint]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yes and the people trying to defend him acting like the now well verified reports of his sick comments on the military would mostly still support him if all the comments were on live video.

They are what they are.

[onthedarkside]

Bickering posts removed. Move on or face suspension.

 

The topic of this thread is:

 

Trump denies report that he spoke disparagingly of U.S. war dead

[Scott]

Post with a link to an unapproved source has been removed. 

 

[Jingthing]

6 hours ago, ballpoint said:

They are what they are.

Indeed.

 

Now wait for the inevitable pivot of his fans from denial to yeah he did it but so what. There is really nothing that puts them off him.

 

But the question now is if his eternally loyal base is big enough for him to be reelected.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/05/trumps-insults-troops-are-just-latest-episode-nothing-matters-presidency/

 

Trump’s insulting the troops is just the latest episode of the ‘nothing matters’ presidency

Edited September 6, 2020 by Jingthing

[paddypower]

On 9/5/2020 at 9:03 AM, Kelsall said:

Interesting timing.  Election in a matter of weeks.  ????

not really, he's been crapping all over everybody, except Putin for 3 years. remember Swiftboating? The Trump campaign just rehired the mastermind. All we seeing is Trump goes low - and finally, the Dems have figured out the only way to beat him is to as low as he goes.

[mtls2005]

During this trip to France, while the president had so much free time, he took a shine various objet d'art in the Ambassador's residence.

 

Thankfully he didn't get to meet the Ambassador's grand-daughter I guess?

 

 

Trump Ended 2018 France Trip Having Art Loaded on Air Force One

 

After Donald Trump’s planned trip to a French cemetery for fallen Marines was canceled in November 2018, the U.S. leader had some extra time on his hands in a mansion filled with artwork. The next day, he went art shopping -- or the presidential equivalent.

 

The incident was met with a mixture of amusement and astonishment at the time, but caused headaches for White House and State Department staffers, according to several people familiar with the episode who asked not to be identified due to its sensitivity.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-09-06/trump-ended-2018-france-trip-having-art-loaded-on-air-force-one

 

 

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

Tip of the iceberg?

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/06/media/jeffrey-goldberg-atlantic-trump-reliable-sources/index.html

 

The Atlantic's editor-in-chief says his story about Trump calling vets 'losers' is just the beginning

 

New York (CNN Business)Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, said his magazine's story about Trump calling Americans who died in battle "losers" and "suckers," was just the tip of the iceberg.

"I would fully expect more reporting to come out about this and more confirmation and new pieces of information in the coming days and weeks," Goldberg told CNN's Chief Media Correspondent Brian Stelter on "Reliable Sources" Sunday. "We have a responsibility and we're going to do it regardless of what he says."

[pegman]

According to the Atlantic writer there is plenty more where this came from. Next up, Trump's personal lawyer's book is out on Tuesday. This should be fun.

Edited September 7, 2020 by pegman

[paddypower]

36 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

I have no idea what any of that  means 

the old head in the sand trick? check anywhere, Fox, Wilki, you name it: Faldwell is recognized as a major influence in tying the Evangelical movement into the eventual election of Trump. to quote just one published commentary:

'As the first evangelical leader to endorse Trump in 2016, Falwell is often credited with helping to deliver 81% of white Christian evangelical voters for the insurgent Republican candidate. Two years ago he told me that Trump was a “good moral person” and an example to the nation, and that he spoke to the president “all the time”.

[Morch]

9 hours ago, paddypower said:

not really, he's been crapping all over everybody, except Putin for 3 years. remember Swiftboating? The Trump campaign just rehired the mastermind. All we seeing is Trump goes low - and finally, the Dems have figured out the only way to beat him is to as low as he goes.

Pity, I kinda liked the "when they go low, we go high" thing.

[TopDeadSenter]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The Atlantic's editor-in-chief says his story about Trump calling vets 'losers' is just the beginning

 

New York (CNN Business)Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, said his magazine's story about Trump calling Americans who died in battle "losers" and "suckers," was just the tip of the iceberg.

"I would fully expect more reporting to come out about this and more confirmation and new pieces of information in the coming days and weeks," Goldberg told CNN's Chief Media Correspondent Brian Stelter on "Reliable Sources" Sunday. "We have a responsibility and we're going to do it regardless of what he says."

Well so long as Mr Goldberg has some real sources for his next story. I have grave doubts the democrat party would like if right leaning media suddenly make up unbelievable BS stories about Biden and credit them to "anonymous sources", while people present and documentation at the time say/prove the opposite. As a smear tactic it is totally devoid of meaning and credibility. Brian Stelter should be ashamed of himself, his show is called "reliable sources"and with the Trump hating military canard there is no source at all !!

 

"Media audiences not only have the right to attain detailed

information reported by journalists but they also expect to have sources

completely identified as a way to assess media and story credibility. If they do

not know who the source is, how they can judge whether the information

supplied by the media is reliable and trustworthy?"

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328061532_Anonymous_Source_Undermines_Credibility_An_Elaboration_Likelihood_Model

[Morch]

14 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Well so long as Mr Goldberg has some real sources for his next story. I have grave doubts the democrat party would like if right leaning media suddenly make up unbelievable BS stories about Biden and credit them to "anonymous sources", while people present and documentation at the time say/prove the opposite. As a smear tactic it is totally devoid of meaning and credibility. Brian Stelter should be ashamed of himself, his show is called "reliable sources"and with the Trump hating military canard there is no source at all !!

 

"Media audiences not only have the right to attain detailed

information reported by journalists but they also expect to have sources

completely identified as a way to assess media and story credibility. If they do

not know who the source is, how they can judge whether the information

supplied by the media is reliable and trustworthy?"

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328061532_Anonymous_Source_Undermines_Credibility_An_Elaboration_Likelihood_Model

 

Yes, you're "concerned" about credibility and sources. Just not when Trump airs his nonsense based on somebody-told-me, I-heard, many-people-say. When the President does it, you're all for defending his words, rejecting the impact on credibility and whatnot.

 

Don't know that relying on obscure academic research from Malaysia, and on the topic of media credibility, of all things, was a well-thought out effort. Country isn't exactly well known for being a bastion of media freedom, quality etc.  

[candide]

37 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Well so long as Mr Goldberg has some real sources for his next story. I have grave doubts the democrat party would like if right leaning media suddenly make up unbelievable BS stories about Biden and credit them to "anonymous sources", while people present and documentation at the time say/prove the opposite. As a smear tactic it is totally devoid of meaning and credibility. Brian Stelter should be ashamed of himself, his show is called "reliable sources"and with the Trump hating military canard there is no source at all !!

 

"Media audiences not only have the right to attain detailed

information reported by journalists but they also expect to have sources

completely identified as a way to assess media and story credibility. If they do

not know who the source is, how they can judge whether the information

supplied by the media is reliable and trustworthy?"

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328061532_Anonymous_Source_Undermines_Credibility_An_Elaboration_Likelihood_Model

Lol! It's not like Trump and right-wing media would not do worse than that, right? One can also add the older ones: pizzagate, birther theory, Ukraine, etc...

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/02/politics/fact-check-trump-conspiracy-theories-biden-covid-thugs-plane/index.html

Edited September 7, 2020 by candide

[Sujo]

2 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

By making up false stories ?

How do you know its false? You do understand all media rely on anonymous people, but they dont report it unless its verified by others.

 

Watergate ring a bell for anonymous?