Trump denies report that he spoke disparagingly of U.S. war dead

[bendejo]

45 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

oh dear...gets worse for trump

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/04/trump-soldiers-tammy-duckworth-joe-biden?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

”Both Elizabeth Neumann, a former assistant secretary of counterterrorism in the department of homeland security, and Miles Taylor, a former chief of staff in that department, said the account was true, asserting that Trump’s low opinion of soldiers killed and wounded in combat was well-known inside the administration.”

Thanks for that, I've been waiting to hear from Tammy on this matter.  She's the one that dubbed him "Cadet Bone Spurs."

If Biden gets elected she is sure to have a job involving the military, and she is gonna nail infamy to his hindquarters for posterity, regardless of what kind of pardoning he succeeds in obtaining.

 

 

[Scott]

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[Tug]

The issue certainly fits his personality beeing spoon fed wealth and privileges since birth and never suffering the consequences for his actions to him anyone who served or is serving are suckers he flys around at our expense plays golf at our expense trolls us at our expense disparages our constitution laws and democracy at our expense to him that’s winning enough stop the chaos vote him out!!

Edited September 4, 2020 by Tug

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Opl said:

1 hour ago, MajarTheLion said:

Sure, here you go:

 

"He [Trump] got support from an unlikely source on Friday when John R. Bolton, his former national security adviser who has broken with him and called him unfit for office, said he was on the trip in question and never heard Mr. Trump make those remarks. “I didn’t hear that,” Mr. Bolton said in an interview. “I’m not saying he didn’t say them later in the day or another time but I was there for that discussion.”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/04/us/politics/trump-veterans-losers.html

Miraculous bone spurs allow Trump to tell who is an American hero, and who is a loser 

 

Is that the same John Bolton the DT fanbase was branding a delusional liar a few months ago?  So his “I didn’t hear that” is yet another of those lies, right?

 

 

[jimmybcool]

The most interesting thing about stories like this is the reactions.  It is so predictable who will believe the worst about Trump and who cares if it's sourced to something legitimate.

 

If I read the same thing about Biden I'd use it as bird cage liner same as this article.

 

[Captain Monday]

20 minutes ago, bendejo said:

 

Is that the same John Bolton the DT fanbase was branding a delusional liar a few months ago?  So his “I didn’t hear that” is yet another of those lies, right?

 

 

Donald Trump lies constantly. It is hard for DT to remember when he might have said something true. What Bolton said it the past (objective reality) only exists as a variable as to what Trump wants it to be at any given point in time. The basket of deplorables are conditioned, to follow every false narrative. 

 

We are coming to a presidential election where Trump  will "win" or not. He already said it is rigged and there will be massive fraud. So if he wins it will be due to massive support despite the "fraud", or because of the supposed rigging. Brilliant. Lie constantly and always be right.Trump had his chance to serve in the Military like many of his day but after being a student athlete he made up some lie with a quack doctor "a very good letter, on the heels".

Totally phony and liar.

Edited September 4, 2020 by Captain Monday

[Credo]

2 hours ago, MajarTheLion said:

Even John Bolton isn't going along with this hilarious scam:

"He [Trump] got support from an unlikely source on Friday when John R. Bolton, his former national security adviser who has broken with him and called him unfit for office, said he was on the trip in question and never heard Mr. Trump make those remarks. “I didn’t hear that,” Mr. Bolton said in an interview. “I’m not saying he didn’t say them later in the day or another time but I was there for that discussion.”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/04/us/politics/trump-veterans-losers.html

 

 

That  is about as insightful as saying I didn't hear a tree fall in the forest so it didn't really fall.   As Bolton said "I am not saying he didn't say it".

 

 

[Scott]

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[MajarTheLion]

32 minutes ago, bendejo said:

 

Is that the same John Bolton the DT fanbase was branding a delusional liar a few months ago?  So his “I didn’t hear that” is yet another of those lies, right?

I don't know. You'd have to ask the people saying that. What do YOU think of his credibility on the matter?

[MajarTheLion]

2 minutes ago, Credo said:

That  is about as insightful as saying I didn't hear a tree fall in the forest so it didn't really fall.   As Bolton said "I am not saying he didn't say it".

 

 

Nice but, Bolton says he was there for that conversation.

[Credo]

8 minutes ago, Credo said:

That  is about as insightful as saying I didn't hear a tree fall in the forest so it didn't really fall.   As Bolton said "I am not saying he didn't say it".

 

 

So, you have 4 sources who did hear it and one who didn't, but says he could have.   Hmmmm.....

 

[MajarTheLion]

2 minutes ago, Credo said:

So, you have 4 sources who did hear it and one who didn't, but says he could have.   Hmmmm.....

 

FALSE. You have one source claiming four sources say they heard it.

[Scott]

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[Credo]

17 minutes ago, MajarTheLion said:

Nice but, Bolton says he was there for that conversation.

Check the actual report, this is what it says:

 

according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day

 

That's 4 people who heard it, one who didn't hear it, but said it could have been true.

 

[Bluespunk]

9 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

nobody has done what I've done," for the U.S. armed forces, Trump said.

What, like closing down the “Stars and Stripes”?

 

Stars and Stripes: Trump orders famed US military newspaper to shut https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54035109

[Tie Dye Samurai]

9 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

I don’t think any rational person believes he said any of that, and people who were there with trump have all denied he said it. 
 

There’s something to be said about “the Atlantic” being the one to publish this as well. It can easily be implied that CNN NYT MSNBC etc all got the same info but didn’t publish because it doesn’t meet editorial standards. 
 

And lastly, anonymous sources, as per usual. 
 

But par for the course. The election is 2 months away and they need to get the media off of Biden being constantly retarded. 

Are you kidding me....you KNOW what he said about John McCain, that is ABSOLUTELY on the record. You are defending a man that is capable of calling other countries "Sh*t Hole countries", war heroes "Losers" and uncountable slang against females that stand up to him. You need to grow a set, find the courage to have some character and discover the intestinal fortitude to acknowledge finally that you are backing the wrong f'ing horse in Donald Trump. 

[tribalfusion001]

Mess up his hair, it is already a mess, but Boris' is worse.

 

Everywhere is going to get nasty in the next couple of months.

Edited September 4, 2020 by tribalfusion001

[RoadWarrior371]

3 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Mess up his hair, it is already a mess, but Boris' is worse.

 

Everywhere is going to get nasty in the next couple of months.

I see the liberals getting nasty and desperate.  I see non-democrats laughing at their miserable despair.  Enjoy the show. ????

[Captain Monday]

16 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

What, like closing down the “Stars and Stripes”?

 

Stars and Stripes: Trump orders famed US military newspaper to shut https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54035109

That fits the Trump persona perfectly. He obviously discovered it contained criticism of the military and US officials and was not pure right-wing propaganda to fluff and adore Trump. 

[torturedsole]

The Donald wouldn't disparage the dead as he's one of the guys. Nonsense story but timely.  

[Scott]

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[Chomper Higgot]

Fox News are now confirming reports that Trump made these disgraceful comments and too that contrary to Trump’s statements Trump attempted to withhold permission for the flag at the capitol be lowered to half mast for the funeral of S. John McCain.

 

 

Trumps disparaging comment wrt McCain’s military service are a matter of public record.

[Chomper Higgot]

Amongst Trump’s claims to have ‘done more for Veterans than....’ is his repeated claim to have promoted and signed the. Veterans Choice Act.

 

The Veterans choice Act was sponsored by S. John McCain and signed into law by President Obama in 2014.

 

A blatant Trump lie that does not go amiss on Veterans and men and women currently serving in the military the USA, nor indeed on their families.

[ChouDoufu]

Trump Boasted of Avoiding STDs While Dating: Vaginas Are 'Landmines ... It Is My Personal Vietnam'

 

“You know, if you’re young, and in this era, and if you have any guilt about not having gone to Vietnam, we have our own Vietnam — it’s called the dating game,” Trump said to Stern in a 1993 interview. “Dating is like being in Vietnam. You’re the equivalent of a soldier going over to Vietnam.”

 

https://people.com/politics/trump-boasted-of-avoiding-stds-while-dating-vaginas-are-landmines-it-was-my-personal-vietnam/

 

• President Donald Trump did not want injured veterans to be present at a military parade because he believed it would make spectators uneasy, sources said in a report published Thursday in The Atlantic.
• "Nobody wants to see that," Trump reportedly said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-didnt-want-wounded-veterans-military-parade-report-2020-9

 

 

[candide]

1 hour ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Mess up his hair, it is already a mess, but Boris' is worse.

 

Everywhere is going to get nasty in the next couple of months.

I remember the French press was mocking Trump about his fake bad weather excuse and showed the weather report at that time. I'll try to find it.

Edited September 4, 2020 by candide

[candide]

One more for the road! ????

Donald Trump told troops he won them first pay raise in 10 years — that’s not true

https://globalnews.ca/news/4797905/donald-trump-troops-iraq-pay/

 

Fact check: Trump brags to troops about 10 percent pay raise he didn't actually give them

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fact-check-trump-brags-troops-about-10-percent-pay-raise-n952336

[LomSak27]

Back in 2017When Trump and Kelly, visited his sons grave.

 

• I don't get it. What was in it for them?" Trump was said to have asked retired Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly, who later became Trump's chief of staff, as the two stood beside 1st Lt. Robert Kelly's grave at Arlington National Cemetery in 2017.
   
• One of Kelly's friends who is a retired four-star general told The Atlantic that Trump "can't fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself."

Two generals have no doubt what Trump said. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-don-t-get-it-trump-questioned-why-retired-gen-john-kelly-s-son-gave-his-life-fighting-in-afghanistan-on-a-memorial-day-visit-to-his-grave/ar-BB18GIir?li=BBnbcA1

[Somtamnication]

The guy is a disgrace. ON VIDEO ON VIDEO he said that Sen. Mcain was a loser for getting caught and spent 7 odd years as a POW.

 

Then he denied yesterday that he said it..........on video!

 

[Mama Noodle]

Bolton was there for the discussion. 
 

 

"I didn't hear that," Bolton told The New York Times. "I'm not saying he didn't say them later in the day or another time, but I was there for that discussion."
 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/515132-john-bolton-says-he-didnt-hear-trump-insult-fallen-soldiers-in-france

[Tug]

25 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

Back in 2017When Trump and Kelly, visited his sons grave.

 

• I don't get it. What was in it for them?" Trump was said to have asked retired Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly, who later became Trump's chief of staff, as the two stood beside 1st Lt. Robert Kelly's grave at Arlington National Cemetery in 2017.
   
• One of Kelly's friends who is a retired four-star general told The Atlantic that Trump "can't fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself."

Two generals have no doubt what Trump said. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-don-t-get-it-trump-questioned-why-retired-gen-john-kelly-s-son-gave-his-life-fighting-in-afghanistan-on-a-memorial-day-visit-to-his-grave/ar-BB18GIir?li=BBnbcA1

With trumps comments so heinous I can’t react with a like for your post let me say I appreciate your posting of his  heinous behavior he’s an embarrassment and unfit to sit in the position of potus personally I feel he is unfit to walk among us and should be locked away that will be determined once he’s run off and no longer has the legal protection the position of potus brings what a disgrace of a human beeing