Trump denies report that he spoke disparagingly of U.S. war dead

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

This is just who Trump is. A man who was terrified, and absolutely refused to serve his nation, with five deferments, now openly disparages those who do. Why? An extreme lack of self esteem, made worse by those brave men and women who did serve their nation. There is a public record of him disparaging John McCain, who was a hero. Also, the gold star parents of the soldier who lost his life. And many others. So, it is not a stretch to imagine he would mock the "great generation", and the many who lost their lives to make sure we could remain free of tyranny. He simply represents the worst in all of us. and has a stunningly black and malicious heart. He must be stopped. He must be ousted, and he WILL lose the election. We will make it so!

Exactly. It has the ring of truth to it based on many things we already fully know as facts from his history. 

 

I suspect and hope some of the sources will risk the hit and go public. 

 

I doubt this story is over.

[Bender Rodriguez]

be real for once.... who signs up to go die for lies ?

 

USA is not under attack, so they should stay home

[polpott]

3 minutes ago, Thomas J said:

This is a Democratic tactic.  Accuse Trump of all sorts of things such as the "Russian Collusion"  Keep him so occupied defending himself that he can not dedicate his time to pursuing his agenda.  They did the same thing when Romney ran and they accused him of paying no income taxes which was not true but he exhausted effort in refuting the claim. 

The Goebbels quote is exactly Trump's MO. Always has been, even before he ran for president.

Has he released his tax returns yet? And what is Trump's agenda?

[Tie Dye Samurai]

2 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Well I believe the chosen one, how could he possibly lie? ????

I forgot he was The Chosen One, i fondly regard to him as The Stable Genius with the best words.

[Phoenix Rising]

Even confirmed by trump's private propaganda organisation:

 

'Fox Is So Rattled By Trump Military Story That It Confirms, Debunks, Then Reconfirms It'

[Emdog]

Here is link to Fox News confirmation of many of the "hit job" aspects of Atlantic article. Fox is generally not regarded as part of the liberal media cabal, ya think?

Which is more likely?

Media across the spectrum are all working together to concoct a hit job story

or

Trump said what is reported and it fits well with what we have known about him for decades?

 

[Kitmakmak]

I can see you're concerned about these latest revelations and you should be.  This is Trump's "Swift Boat"....to use a GOP jargon.  It doesn't matter who the source is because it's entirely believable.  These allegations will cost Trump a big chunk of his military coalition, no doubt.  My condolences. 

 

LOLOLOL.... The military loves Trump. You can choose to believe the leftist media who makes up stories to defeat Trump or you can judge Trump by his actions. Obama/Biden decimated the military in their 8 years. Trump is building it back. Inconvenient truths for the Trump haters.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

2 hours ago, Opl said:

Retired Army Colonel Jack Jacobs Confirms Trump’s Frequent Military Slams

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/09/04/watch-retired-army-colonel-jack-jacobs-confirms-trumps-frequent-military-slams.html

 

"Fox News National Security Correspondent Jennifer Griffin was able to confirm with two former Trump administration officials that Trump called anyone who went to Vietnam a sucker. "

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/09/04/fox-news-trump-troops-suckers.html

Well, to use what seems to be a well accepted phrase equated to truth and legitimacy, "ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING" that apparently Colonel Jack Jacobs is one of those losers...or is it a sucker? Perhaps one of the TV MAGAnese can enlighten us with some clarification on the designated distinction that Dear President would label him as....and Jennifer Griffin? Obviously a Fake News Mob Rogue Hack at that failing news source over there at that once reliable slant on the events of the day....and probably a very "nasty" person to boot.

[Phoenix Rising]

13 minutes ago, Kitmakmak said:

I can see you're concerned about these latest revelations and you should be.  This is Trump's "Swift Boat"....to use a GOP jargon.  It doesn't matter who the source is because it's entirely believable.  These allegations will cost Trump a big chunk of his military coalition, no doubt.  My condolences. 

 

LOLOLOL.... The military loves Trump. You can choose to believe the leftist media who makes up stories to defeat Trump or you can judge Trump by his actions. Obama/Biden decimated the military in their 8 years. Trump is building it back. Inconvenient truths for the Trump haters.

Are you suffering from a split personality disorder ore are you quoting someone without actually indicating what the quote is and who made it?

[mtls2005]

44 minutes ago, Thomas J said:

Keep him so occupied defending himself that he can not dedicate his time to pursuing his agenda. 

 

555.

 

Thank you for admitting that he hasn't accomplished anything, and can only focus on one thing at a time...Golf.

 

 

Sully Sullenberger

@Captsully

5/9 For the first time in American history, a president has repeatedly shown utter and vulgar contempt and disrespect for those who have served and died serving our country.

 

 

[Jingthing]

24 minutes ago, Kitmakmak said:

I can see you're concerned about these latest revelations and you should be.  This is Trump's "Swift Boat"....to use a GOP jargon.  It doesn't matter who the source is because it's entirely believable.  These allegations will cost Trump a big chunk of his military coalition, no doubt.  My condolences. 

 

LOLOLOL.... The military loves Trump. You can choose to believe the leftist media who makes up stories to defeat Trump or you can judge Trump by his actions. Obama/Biden decimated the military in their 8 years. Trump is building it back. Inconvenient truths for the Trump haters.

Not as much as you think dude.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/12/17/half-of-active-duty-service-members-are-unhappy-with-trump-new-military-times-poll-shows/

 

 

Troops' opinion of Trump heads down | Military Times Reports

Edited September 5, 2020 by Jingthing

[Sujo]

57 minutes ago, Thomas J said:

This is a Democratic tactic.  Accuse Trump of all sorts of things such as the "Russian Collusion"  Keep him so occupied defending himself that he can not dedicate his time to pursuing his agenda.  They did the same thing when Romney ran and they accused him of paying no income taxes which was not true but he exhausted effort in refuting the claim. 

cant be too busy, he plays lots of golf.

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Even confirmed by trump's private propaganda organisation:

 

'Fox Is So Rattled By Trump Military Story That It Confirms, Debunks, Then Reconfirms It'

Someday DT will be gone, and the military will still be there.  Fox would like to maintain its standing in the armed forces community.

There is a fear in Murdochland that if DT stops being president he will start his own network and compete with them.

 

 

[Walker88]

18 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

I don’t think any rational person believes he said any of that, and people who were there with trump have all denied he said it. 
 

There’s something to be said about “the Atlantic” being the one to publish this as well. It can easily be implied that CNN NYT MSNBC etc all got the same info but didn’t publish because it doesn’t meet editorial standards. 
 

And lastly, anonymous sources, as per usual. 
 

But par for the course. The election is 2 months away and they need to get the media off of Biden being constantly retarded. 

Well, here's a difference of opinion:

 

I don't think any rational person doesn't believe he said all of that, and people who were there with 45 all corroborate it.

 

I have also heard it directly from people who have heard him make these statements.   EVERYBODY heard him make disparaging statements about Sen John McCain. Conversely, NOBODY---not even putin---has heard him make statements taking exception to russia offering the taliban bounties on US Soldiers.

 

As for 'anonymous sources', do you mean like his Birther drivel?

 

 

 

[jcsmith]

1 hour ago, Thomas J said:

This is a Democratic tactic.  Accuse Trump of all sorts of things such as the "Russian Collusion"  Keep him so occupied defending himself that he can not dedicate his time to pursuing his agenda.  

Even the Republican led Senate Intelligence Community confirmed recently that the Trump team sought Russian assistance actively in the last election. But don't take their word for it. How about Jennifer Griffin, who is a Fox News National Security Correspondent...
 

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Regarding McCain, "The President just hated John McCain. He always asked, 'Why do you see him as a hero?" Two sources confirmed the President did not want flags lowered but others in the White House ordered them at half mast. There was a stand off and then the President relented.

 

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Regarding Trump's July 4th military parade, during a planning session at the White House after seeing the Bastille Day parade in 2017, the President said regarding the inclusion of "wounded guys" "that's not a good look" "Americans don't like that," source confirms.

 

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Two former sr Trump admin officials confirm .

@JeffreyGoldberg reporting that President Trump disparaged veterans and did not want to drive to honor American war dead at Aisne-Marne Cemetery outside Paris.

 

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President Trump's staff explained he could cancel (his visit to the cemetery), but he was warned, 'They (the press) are going to kill you for this'." The President was mad as a hornet when they did.

Source: https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, Thomas J said:

This is a Democratic tactic.  Accuse Trump of all sorts of things such as the "Russian Collusion"  Keep him so occupied defending himself that he can not dedicate his time to pursuing his agenda.  They did the same thing when Romney ran and they accused him of paying no income taxes which was not true but he exhausted effort in refuting the claim. 

Perhaps you missed the SSCI Report on the Russia investigation, where it stated that Manafort was intimately involved with Konstatin Kilimnik throughout the campaign, and that 45 committed perjury when he sent written answers to Mueller claiming he was unaware of the upcoming Wilileaks data.

 

Incidentally, that 1000 page report was released by the Republican-controlled Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI). Republican.

 

As for 45, 276 trips to his golf course, costing the US Taxpayer over $130,000,000, plus his constant call-ins to Fox says the guy has oodles of free time 'to pursue his agenda'.

[polpott]

1 hour ago, Emdog said:

Here is link to Fox News confirmation of many of the "hit job" aspects of Atlantic article. Fox is generally not regarded as part of the liberal media cabal, ya think?

Murdoch has long been known for backing winners. He obviously sees Trump as a nailed on loser. Expect Fox and the NY Post to distance themselves more and more from Trump and lean towards Biden as the election nears.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

50 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not as much as you think dude.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/12/17/half-of-active-duty-service-members-are-unhappy-with-trump-new-military-times-poll-shows/

 

 

Troops' opinion of Trump heads down | Military Times Reports

Obviously The Military Times is far left liberal conspiracy fake news...nothing to see here, please pay attention to what is important...Speaker Pelosi's hair styling location...the real issue that plagues the country.

Edited September 5, 2020 by Tie Dye Samurai

[Mavideol]

19 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Trump told reporters on Thursday the story was false.

come on guys, would anybody, in a normal state of mind, expected a different answer from him.... because he lies all the time, with a comment like that he just confirmed it's true

[Mama Noodle]

40 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I have also heard it directly from people who have heard him make these statements.

Sure bro, sure. 

[mtls2005]

Interesting that trump seems to have forgotten that his wife accompanied him to France?

 

Instead of the visit, Trump spent hours on that Saturday afternoon holed up watching television inside the US ambassador's residence, people familiar with the situation said.

 

 

Remarks by President Trump After Air Force One Arrival | Joint Base Andrews, MD | September 3, 2020

 

So I said, “No, I want to do it.” They said, “You can’t.” There was no way I would have been able to do it. And they would never have been able to get the police and everybody else in line to have a President go through a very crowded, very congested area.

 

So I went and I called home. I spoke to my wife. I said, “I hate this. I came here to go to that ceremony,” and to the one that was the following day, which I did go to. I said, “I feel terribly.” And that was the end of it.

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-air-force-one-arrival-joint-base-andrews-md-september-3-2020/

 

 

 

Readout of First Lady Melania Trump’s Visit to France

 

Due to inclement weather, the First Lady and President were unable to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery and Memorial in Belleau, France. The cemetery contains the graves of 2,289 American heroes, and inscribed on the walls of the Memorial Chapel are the names of 1,060 missing American Soldiers from the War.

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/readout-first-lady-melania-trumps-visit-france/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[riclag]

6 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

*Claim* to have heard it. That’s the point. No too long ago this kind of trash wouldn’t even be a thing because it can’t pass journalistic muster yet here we are. 
 

4 anonymous haters claim he said it, yet by last count 10 or 11 real people who were there said he didn’t. 
 

Clearly the anonymous people with zero evidence should be the ones to be believed ????

And there you have it 10 real verified sources and four cowardly unverified sources! Story  Debunked !

 

 

[candide]

7 hours ago, candide said:

I remember the French press was mocking Trump about his fake bad weather excuse and showed the weather report at that time. I'll try to find it.

Here it is! The weather forecast at the time of the planned visit at the American cemetery was "rare showers" and "gusts of wind of max 40kph (25mph)". These weather conditions were not a problem for the type of helicopter Trump was using.

https://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2018/11/10/2904064-donald-trump-annule-visite-cimetiere-militaire-aisne-cause-pluie.html

[pmarlin]

It's amazing how many fell for this made up stuff. The story was never verified and yet it makes it on this forum. All those there including some who don't get along with trump like Bolton say it never happened. This was a DNC dirty trick fed to the Atlantic . About the same time the article came out Biden had an ad on it. They wanted to win the news cycle because of the Job numbers coming out. The election is going to be dirty and the democrat's are going to try and lie their way to a win.

[Dap]

19 hours ago, simple1 said:

For those interested a link to The Atlantic article below. 

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

Thank you for this post. 

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

It's amazing how many fell for this made up stuff. The story was never verified and yet it makes it on this forum. All those there including some who don't get along with trump like Bolton say it never happened. This was a DNC dirty trick fed to the Atlantic . About the same time the article came out Biden had an ad on it. They wanted to win the news cycle because of the Job numbers coming out. The election is going to be dirty and the democrat's are going to try and lie their way to a win.

It has been verified.

[Odysseus123]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

To be fair he understandably was not welcome at that funeral.

Indeed.

[jcsmith]

34 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

It's amazing how many fell for this made up stuff. The story was never verified and yet it makes it on this forum. All those there including some who don't get along with trump like Bolton say it never happened. This was a DNC dirty trick fed to the Atlantic . About the same time the article came out Biden had an ad on it. They wanted to win the news cycle because of the Job numbers coming out. The election is going to be dirty and the democrat's are going to try and lie their way to a win.

Even if you just scrolled up to other posts on this page there are multiple posts that verify it, including Fox News.

[stevenl]

39 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

It's amazing how many fell for this made up stuff. The story was never verified and yet it makes it on this forum. All those there including some who don't get along with trump like Bolton say it never happened. This was a DNC dirty trick fed to the Atlantic . About the same time the article came out Biden had an ad on it. They wanted to win the news cycle because of the Job numbers coming out. The election is going to be dirty and the democrat's are going to try and lie their way to a win.

No. The story seems to be true, confirmed by multiple media all over the political spectrum.

Not all those present say it never happened. Bolton didn't say it never happened.

Biden's ad was significantly after this story came out.

So far it is the Republicans that have an insurmountable lead in the lie count.

 

Yes, it will be a dirty election, mainly due to Trump's lies and ad hominem attacks.

Edited September 5, 2020 by stevenl

[Sujo]

40 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

It's amazing how many fell for this made up stuff. The story was never verified and yet it makes it on this forum. All those there including some who don't get along with trump like Bolton say it never happened. This was a DNC dirty trick fed to the Atlantic . About the same time the article came out Biden had an ad on it. They wanted to win the news cycle because of the Job numbers coming out. The election is going to be dirty and the democrat's are going to try and lie their way to a win.

Bolton never said it didnt happen.