SURVEY: Should drugs be legalized?

[CLW]

Just look at Portugal, seems to have worked there.

[cheshiremusicman]

21 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Any particular rat poison you'd recommend? Yes, the ongoing war on drugs is an epic fail! 

Yes, Warfarin the commonly used blood thinner.

Totally agree with the 'epic fail', Legalise and control the sale of all drugs etc and you'd kill the monsters who make billions out of it. Governments would also receive a vast income from taxation of the legalised drugs as they do on alcohol and cigarettes.

You would have no need for drug squads as the criminals would have gone out of business; think of the money they'd save on this alone!

[KhunFred]

If you are only consuming and not putting others in danger, you should be allowed to  ingest any substance you please.

[Neeranam]

Makes no sense at all having alcohol legal and even encouraged in some cultures and to have ganja, heroin illegal. The latter are not particularly harmful if taken socially.

Ganja is not addictive and heroin is not as addictive as some accepted medications like benzodiazepines, and much easier to withdraw from. One of the worst ever drugs to come off is Methadone, again a socially accepted drug.

Strange how pscychotropic drugs like caffeine and nicotine are deemed by many as not mind altering, including recovery groups like AA.

[tadpole22]

i go along with Jutice GB said

[briansbiology]

On 9/13/2020 at 1:33 PM, ezzra said:

Really? and who's going to be there to clean up the mass these stoners and drug intoxicated will cause to the people surrounding around them? are hospitals big enough to contain all those who will end up there on overdose eh? do you also advocate for stoned and drunk people driving around operating machinery and such? and all what what? for a high?...

you cant use the word stoners (users of cannabis) in the same breath as overdoses. Its LD 50 is less than water. I suppose that means nothing to you as you are obviously unaware of any of the science. 

Edited September 14, 2020 by briansbiology

[jcsmith]

You can technically ingest enough of anything to kill yourself but it would take copious amounts. What most would consider a weed overdose is basically just taking a forced nap and waking up with a headache or getting way too high and paranoid and freaking yourself out. Unless you have a conditional like schizophrenia which might be triggered, or you freak out and set yourself into a panic attack it's a safe drug. 

Edited September 14, 2020 by jcsmith

[DrTuner]

Before legalization must come education. If somchai gets his hands on a few kilos of smack without understanding it's a one way road to a wat BBQ, well that ain't going to work.

[RocketDog]

On 9/13/2020 at 3:14 PM, dluek said:

"but only those considered not to be highly addictive, like heroin & Meth."

 

Uhhhhhhh..... Who thinks heroin and meth are not highly addictive? Nothing is more addictive than heroin. 

You misunderstood the syntax of the question. He meant that meth and heroin are highly addictive. Poorly worded. Surveys must be precise to avoid just such issues. 

[RocketDog]

1 hour ago, DrTuner said:

Before legalization must come education. If somchai gets his hands on a few kilos of smack without understanding it's a one way road to a wat BBQ, well that ain't going to work.

Somchai will quickly OD and be gone. Problem solved. 

[DrTuner]

4 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

Somchai will quickly OD and be gone. Problem solved. 

Possibly, but I'm not sure how quickly or effectively Darwin would collect the somchais. Some would probably linger around for quite a while and cause trouble, especially if on yaba. 

[RocketDog]

On 9/13/2020 at 3:26 PM, teacherclaire said:

I voted yes and wanted to point out what the legal drug alcohol does to people. I've never heard of people dying because they're using recreational drugs.

 

Alcohol destroys marriages, friendships, causes homeless people, criminals and it's causing stupidity. 

 

An overdose of hashish is only theoretically possible, if one would smoke 1 kg of hand rolled Afghani in ten minutes. 

   

 

  Worldwide, 3 million deaths every year result from harmful use of alcohol, this represent 5.3 % of all deaths. The harmful use of alcohol is a causal factor in more than 200 disease and injury conditions.Sep 21, 2018   

 

 https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/alcohol#:~:text=Worldwide%2C 3 million deaths every,200 disease and injury conditions.

 

What is the lethal dose of marijuana?

 

According to which US Government authority you want to believe, the lethal dose of marijuana is either about one-third your body weight, or about 1,500 pounds, consumed all at once.

 

http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/library/mj_overdose.htm

Whoa. If you weigh 4,500 pounds you've got bigger problems than drugs. 

[RocketDog]

3 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Possibly, but I'm not sure how quickly or effectively Darwin would collect the somchais. Some would probably linger around for quite a while and cause trouble, especially if on yaba. 

No doubt, but if they could easily obtain their drugs that period might be only days or weeks. In any case they make trouble now and it goes on for years. They also might become essentially too debilitated to cause much trouble. 

[steven100]

9 hours ago, CraigInBangkok said:

"A drug is any substance that causes a change in an organism's physiology or psychology when consumed" 

The reason why alcohol is always brought into the argument is because it is a drug and on a list of dangerous drugs alcohol would be near the top. 

While "injecting rooms" may not be desirable, I have seen far more p!ssheads on the streets causing problems/trouble.

Your choice as an alcoholic(you pretty much told us your an all day, everyday drinker) is far more dangerous than a potheads choice to smoke pot. So is your path right ? Or is it just that governments chose to make this one drug socially acceptable ?  

Drug users caught .....

crime - 11.09.2020 -    here's what happens when one makes the wrong choice in life .......

Western Sydney duo charged with drug offences after meth found in imported coconut cans

You wouldn’t want a pina colada made from these cans of coconut milk. The delivery got two western Sydney residents arrested.

Two western Sydney residents have been arrested after about 600 litres of meth – contained in coconut milk cans – were seized.

Australian Federal Police conducted a controlled delivery of the cans to a warehouse in Girraween, NSW, where a 29-year-old woman and 20-year-old man were arrested after taking the shipment.

They were each charged with attempting to possess a commercial quantity of an illegal drug and, if convicted, could face a maximum sentence of life in jail.

The shipment contained cans of coconut milk that were filled with liquid meth. Picture: AFPSource:Supplied

The cargo arrived in Sydney from Thailand. Picture: AFPSource:Supplied

[jackspade]

I couldn’t possibly support a blanket legislation making all drugs legal or illegal, especially in a society with such a low-quality education system. There needs to be careful consideration given to each substance in question.