Visa extensions approved under previous amnesty to be upheld until Nov 30

[CorpusChristie]

14 minutes ago, genericptr said:

That's correct I believe. I'm just pointing out that instead of actually going home or seeking an extension I could have literally just done nothing and still stayed until Oct 31st. Remember how they threatened multiple times to get your visa in order or fines penalties? That was just a bluff. You could have just ignored them and done nothing to get another 30 days.

It wasnt a bluff ,its just that many people all applied for extensions on the last day , so an extra 30 days was given to get all those processed  

[CorpusChristie]

33 minutes ago, genericptr said:

but they get amnesty until Oct 31st right? It's not this exact post but it was a previous announcement. There is a Oct 31st and Nov 30th date which apply to both groups respectively.

I did mean to say further visa extensions . 

People with valid visas can get further 60 day extensions , those without a visa cannot get a visa extension (past the October 31st deadline)

Edited September 30, 2020 by CorpusChristie

[CorpusChristie]

37 minutes ago, Promula said:

I haven't seen anything that states the latter of your comments. Do you have a link?

Yes, its in the first post in this thread 

[NorthernRyland]

15 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

The official announcement came 3 days after the amnesty expired. That was 3 days in limbo. 

You're right actually. The government basically swept in after they realized people weren't going home and bailed them out. I wasn't brave enough to risk what might happen if I tried that.

[NorthernRyland]

 

14 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

They are on overstay since Sept 26th.. 

I read this as they're getting another free month. No late fees.  It's your own fault if you tried to get the extension so close to the end date so I'm surprised the government didn't enforce fines.

[american2]

I talked with a Thai friend who has a Guest House.  She had a customer who stays in Kanchanaburi but renews his visa in Hua Hin.  He reaplied before the 26th Sept but was denied.  He spoke with a Thai woman who spoke French, (he is French) She contacted him with a Hua Hin Imm. officer who renewed his visa for three months noticing his visa that he had Covid  and could not leave the country, for a price of 20,000 baht.  He had been promised a 1 year stamp.  Beware of scams.  Apparently the visa officers are trying to make a fortune from the misfortune of others. BEWARE

[hotchilli]

4 minutes ago, genericptr said:

 

I read this as they're getting another free month. No late fees.  It's your own fault if you tried to get the extension so close to the end date so I'm surprised the government didn't enforce fines.

Those who extended before the Sept 26th deadline received a 30 day extension for 1,900 baht

This will be extended to Nov 30th with no extra cost.

Those who did not extend are on overstay... there is NO FREE month for those that did not extend.
 

[Bangkok Barry]

And those who bought a 60-day extension get nothing at all. Or do they? Mine based on marriage ends on 25th November. Do I get an extension to the 30th too? If not, why not?

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[overherebc]

10 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

And those who bought a 60-day extension get nothing at all. Or do they? Mine based on marriage ends on 25th November. Do I get an extension to the 30th too? If not, why not?

Two months to season your 400,000 and apply for a 12 month married extension is one way to look at it.

[Happyman567]

Ok men just a question and i not being smart about this. What if you got a 2 month extension instead of 30 days what does this mean then. Its great for guys who got 30 day extension but what about guys who got 60 day extension

[4evermaat]

1 hour ago, Guderian said:

n other words, those who obeyed the rules and did what the authorities told them to do and are here legally, and those who thought (and correctly, it seems now) they still had a chance to game the system so ignored the warnings from the Immigration police and are now here illegally. It seems that the "new normal" in Thailand is to simply ignore the laws and do whatever you please, the government will always bend the rules to accommodate you.

 

29 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

They are on overstay since Sept 26th.. 

 

Did you and others actually read the article????

 

 

Also consider the reality that the fundamental conditions that caused the amnesty had not changed.  such as:

• covid-19 affecting global economies, including severe restrictions on ability to onwards travel safely and/or without significant delays.
• second wave of covid-19 hitting several countries
• nearly all other countries having shelter-in-place provisions for existing foreigners.
• ~20% of your economy depends on formal/informal tourist/expat spending.
• How would the optics look to attempt to round up 100k people who are (for the most part) not causing any harm.
• etc.

 

58 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Many people decided to apply for an extension on the very last day , despite being asked not to do that 

 

Since the fundamentals of what caused the original amnesty(ies) did not change significantly, there was no good reason NOT to extend visa amnesty.......

 

.....Although I did predict this very thing to happen (immigration likely wanted to first collect some extension/agent revenue, then announce amnesty "late" ).  There were better ways to collect said revenue without this cartoonish panic at the deadline (even for Thai standards)........but that's for a different post/thread.  

 

If you read the cabinet meeting notes (google translate), you would have also seen their "reasoning" there, which is at least partially in line with the reality (fundamentals) that I am referring to.

 

 

Technically, we should wait for the full resolution to be announced that will be entered into the Royal Gazette to see more exact details of which foreigners are covered.   But so far I don't see how any foreigner that qualified for the first covid-19 amnesty back in March 26(?) 2020 is on overstay now.

 

There is a lot of vindictiveness from certain holier-than-thou expats on this forum that have come out strongly during this covid amnesty period.   Not sure where it is coming from though.  Genuine concern for Thai border security?  Jealousy from others getting "free" temporary visa for an extended period vs having to go through the rigmarole of a 1 year non-imm [category] extension??  Just grumpy with nothing else to do?   Maybe a polling topic addressing this should be made.

[Bangkok Barry]

10 minutes ago, overherebc said:

19 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

And those who bought a 60-day extension get nothing at all. Or do they? Mine based on marriage ends on 25th November. Do I get an extension to the 30th too? If not, why not?

Two months to season your 400,000 and apply for a 12 month married extension is one way to look at it.

In progress. Against my will.

[4evermaat]

8 minutes ago, Happyman567 said:

Ok men just a question and i not being smart about this. What if you got a 2 month extension instead of 30 days what does this mean then. Its great for guys who got 30 day extension but what about guys who got 60 day extension

 

Wait for the the full ministry announcement.  The one that will be entered into the Royal Gazette.  Should be end of this week or beginning of next week. ( @jackdd when do they normally add these things to the Royal gazette?)

 

My speculation based upon the news announcement is you have until Nov, 2020 (an extra 30 days only).   But let's wait.

[audaciousnomad]

29 minutes ago, genericptr said:

 

I read this as they're getting another free month. No late fees.  It's your own fault if you tried to get the extension so close to the end date so I'm surprised the government didn't enforce fines.

More importantly though is that the article seems to suggest that 31-Oct is a hard deadline for those who did not apply for extension prior to 26-Sept.  Those who waited and were in limbo now MUST LEAVE before 31-Oct., with no path to further extend. At least that's my interpretation of it.

[Elizway]

Were there visitors on tourist visa that were not allowed to extend due to running out of extensions and therefore had to leave? Or was extension open to all? 

[steve187]

4 hours ago, overherebc said:

I was talking about pre 26 sept' not this notice.

so was i

[CorpusChristie]

5 minutes ago, 4evermaat said:

 

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There is a lot of vindictiveness from certain holier-than-thou expats on this forum that have come out strongly during this covid amnesty period.   Not sure where it is coming from though.  Genuine concern for Thai border security?  Jealousy from others getting "free" temporary visa for an extended period vs having to go through the rigmarole of a 1 year non-imm [category] extension??  Just grumpy with nothing else to do?   Maybe a polling topic addressing this should be made.

Some people took the time , effort and paid money to get visas and extensions , others just didnt bother and are just using the pandemic as an excuse to stay visa free 

[n00dle]

19 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Good news for all those cashed-up "digital nomads" living in Thailand.

If it were published in the gazette it woukd be great news.

 

Until then it is just noise.

[Wongkitlo]

17 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Two months to season your 400,000 and apply for a 12 month married extension is one way to look at it.

No not really. If the offices followed the rules as they were advertised would be true but they started the 60 days from the day the visa was applied for not the 27th as they were meant to. Mine expires 21st November while tourist visas will have to the 30th.

[jackdd]

7 minutes ago, 4evermaat said:

( @jackdd when do they normally add these things to the Royal gazette?)

For the extension to 26th September it took them 8 days from the Cabinet meeting until it was published. For the extension to 31st July it took them just 3 days. So something in this range.

[Wongkitlo]

5 minutes ago, n00dle said:

If it were published in the gazette it woukd be great news.

 

Until then it is just noise.

Mr Kuntee  says it is for real. 

Edited September 30, 2020 by Wongkitlo
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[Dart12]

will Visas such as mine where I paid 20k for get an additional 60 days added to it as well?

Much would have preferred 1900 for 60 days over 20k for 90

[n00dle]

9 minutes ago, Wongkitlo said:

Mr Kuntee  says it is for real. 

Its all in the name, how much do faith do you have in a fellow with a name like that?

 

The only thing that seems clear is the gazette will not be published today

Edited September 30, 2020 by n00dle

[Bartman1369]

19 hours ago, rkidlad said:

The right thing to do. Well done!

 

Might be nice to also offer a refund in case people already made plans to leave by the end of their initial 30 days. 

People who were charged extreme amounts of money for 3 months extensions have have paid for nothing. 

[n00dle]

3 minutes ago, Bartman1369 said:

People who were charged extreme amounts of money for 3 months extensions have have paid for nothing. 

No they paid for 3 month extensions and need not concern themselves with threads like these, which provide absolutely no comcrete information.

 

 

Edited September 30, 2020 by n00dle

[sometimewoodworker]

9 minutes ago, Dart12 said:

will Visas such as mine where I paid 20k for get an additional 60 days added to it as well?

Much would have preferred 1900 for 60 days over 20k for 90

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[sometimewoodworker]

5 minutes ago, Bartman1369 said:

People who were charged extreme amounts of money for 3 months extensions have have paid for nothing. 

They paid to keep IOs in a style that they like and probably to allow Mia Noi’s to get some more income. ???? 

[Promula]

18 minutes ago, Bartman1369 said:

People who were charged extreme amounts of money for 3 months extensions have have paid for nothing. 

Nobody forced them to enter into a bribery situation. They're hardly going to be able to complain and get their money back. The agents and IOs are laughing all the way to the bank. 

Edited September 30, 2020 by Promula

[greggraham]

So much wrong information in this thread, holy <deleted>. People please do your own research and come to your own conclusions.