Plot to kidnap Michigan governor thwarted; 13 arrested, officials say

[mtls2005]

Very fine people...

 

Orange and white, what a combination.

 

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/10/08/view-mugshots-for-13-people-charged-after-fbi-uncovers-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-whitmer/

[Walker88]

48 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

Care to provide a link to FBI reports as to the affiliation?  I've not found it.  I make no predictions.  Could be right wing racist nutjobs or left wing antifa nutjobs.  Pretty sure nutjobs will fit as part of the description in the end.

Two of those arrested were part of the heavily-armed right-wingers who entered the Lansing Statehouse after calls by 45 to "Liberate Michigan".

 

The maga gear also suggests their affiliation.

 

 

[Walker88]

8 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Very fine people...

 

Orange and white, what a combination.

 

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/10/08/view-mugshots-for-13-people-charged-after-fbi-uncovers-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-whitmer/

Ten terrorists, I'm guessing 72 combined IQ points.

 

"I love the poorly educated" -45

 

Admittedly it looks as if 45 has captured the demographic who sits a few standard deviations to the left of the mean on the IQ Bell Curve. Outside of that and sociopaths, 45 has little support.

[Berkshire]

5 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

54 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

Care to provide a link to FBI reports as to the affiliation?  I've not found it.  I make no predictions.  Could be right wing racist nutjobs or left wing antifa nutjobs.  Pretty sure nutjobs will fit as part of the description in the end.

Two of those arrested were part of the heavily-armed right-wingers who entered the Lansing Statehouse after calls by 45 to "Liberate Michigan".

 

The maga gear also suggests their affiliation.

Jimmy and these other right wingers are just being disingenuous.  A plot to kidnap a democratic governor who's been at war with Trump should be pretty obvious to anyone with any sense.  But they so badly want it to be the left, nevermind that Trump's own DHS and FBI have declared the far right and white supremacist as the most grave domestic terrorist threat in the USA.  Even Trump himself has tried to force-feed Antifa down everyone's throat with no success.  Maybe they'll bring up George Soros next.  

[simple1]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

They are likely devotees of 44 (the 44th worst ever). Or zealots that were motivated by his consistently hateful, and divisive rhetoric.

 

President Trump on Thursday twice referred to Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) as a "monster" following her debate performance against Vice President Pence the evening prior. Trump’s comments, made in his first interview since his coronavirus diagnosis, were made during an exchange about Biden’s fitness for office. Trump claimed that Biden “won’t be president for two months” if elected because he is not “mentally capable of being president,” before tearing into Harris.

 

Is Trump now totally unhinged? You be the judge. He is panicked. His numbers are dropping daily, and he is facing the greatest humiliation of his lifetime, and he is melting down before our eyes. 

Dem pressure is working, is trump is about to completely lose the plot?

 

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, alarmed by President Donald Trump's erratic behavior in recent days, is putting her weight behind a bill to give Congress a role in determining whether the President of the United States must be forced out of office because he's incapable of doing his job.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/08/politics/house-oversight-commission-president-health/index.html

[Benmart]

4 hours ago, Berkshire said:

This is an outrageous act of treason and these terrorists need to be treated as such.  The Trump Administration has known that these white supremacists are a menace but the President himself has done nothing.  America is a much more dangerous place with Trump in charge.  45 needs to go and right soon.

Votes make change. TVF posts are not votes, just noise.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, blazes said:

 

And what, pray, my good man, is a "normal" president!!!!!!!!

 

Clinton?  Dubya?  Ford?  Nixon?  JFK?  Trump?

 

Where is the "normality" that ties all these men together???

 

(And God save us all if Biden, or, worse, Harris, joins the ranks of your precious "normal"!!)

 

 

All but one backed America’s foreign allies and opposed America’s enemies.

 

Perhaps you feel a return to that normality is something you need your God to save you from.

 

I’m struggling to see why.

 

 

Edited October 9, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[Bluespunk]

3 hours ago, J Town said:

Every normal president would have come right out and condemned these actions. I guess 45 is too busy calling in to Fox Business ranting crazily about getting Obama arrested.

 

Instead, we get the sound of crickets.

trump has tried to claim credit for the arrests...

 

“On Thursday night, Mr Trump, a Republican, sought to take credit for federal investigators eliminating the alleged threat to the governor.
"Rather than say thank you, she calls me a White Supremacist - while Biden and Democrats refuse to condemn Antifa, Anarchists, Looters and Mobs that burn down Democrat run cities," he tweeted.”

 

FBI busts militia 'plot' to abduct Michigan Gov Gretchen Whitmer https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54470427

[blazes]

21 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

All but one backed America’s foreign allies and opposed America’s enemies.

 

Perhaps you feel a return to that normality is something you need your God to save you from.

 

I’m struggling to see why.

 

 

 

All but two (Ford and Trump) led the US into wars that were costly in terms of lives lost and dollars mal-invested.

 

As usual, Chomperesque vision is somewhat limited....

[bunnydrops]

19 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

“On Thursday night, Mr Trump, a Republican, sought to take credit for federal investigators eliminating the alleged threat to the governor.

As usual Trump forgets that he and the FBI work for the US government. The FBI are not his. I would be curious to know if he even knew what was coming down.

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, Berkshire said:

It's called desperation.  And he's demanding that AG Barr do it before the election.  Barr doesn't realize that whatever he does is never enough for this President.  It's "what have you done for me lately" all the time. 

Trump even criticized Barr and Pompeo in yesterday's diatribe. He is totally losing his mind. His sanity was in question before. Now? The stress of being so far behind in the polls is causing him to move from unstable to unhinged.

 

Thanks Don. You are our best ally. 

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

44?

It is only fitting. The only previous presidents that were worse, were possibly Buchanan and Johnson. It is debatable which one was the worst. So, I am giving Trump a modest amount of credit here. Second to worst. History will not be kind to this simple minded non patriot. 

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

If you're okay with that, then perhaps we can do the same into the White House. Isn't 45 a big proponent of the Second Amendment?

I've been saying it for 5 years now: open carry at his rallies.  Guaranteed to MAGA.

 

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, blazes said:

 

I don't know about "monster", but let's face it, thousands of Democrat voters told her to eff off last year as she plummeted in the votes of her very own party!!!!

Clearly, those clear-sighted Democrat voters saw something extremely ugly in this woman, and they voted accordingly.

 

 

Ugly? How can anyone use that term, when comparing her to either Pence or Trump? Be more creative, please. 

[blazes]

15 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Ugly? How can anyone use that term, when comparing her to either Pence or Trump? Be more creative, please. 

 

Yes, you're quite right: 'ugly" could well lead one to suppose that I was referring to her looks (which would of course be mansplaining of the worst misogynist kind).

No, I meant that large swathes of Democrat voters had long ago concluded that she was an empty shell of a woman and deserved the boot.  (But, as usual, the big-wigs in the Democratic Party refused to listen to the message contained in those Primary votes.)

[spidermike007]

Just now, blazes said:

 

Yes, you're quite right: 'ugly" could well lead one to suppose that I was referring to her looks (which would of course be mansplaining of the worst misogynist kind).

No, I meant that large swathes of Democrat voters had long ago concluded that she was an empty shell of a woman and deserved the boot.  (But, as usual, the big-wigs in the Democratic Party refused to listen to the message contained in those Primary votes.)

I had issues with some of her positions as AG in California. But, in comparison to either Trump or Pence, to label her as an empty shell, is quite extreme. She is very smart, and very accomplished. Something Trump cannot handle in a woman. We have seen that time and time again. 

 

Now if you want to talk about empty suits, we can discuss the current GOP leadership. 

[RJRS1301]

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Something Trump cannot handle in a woman.

Or anyone else, they may disagree with him

[J Town]

Not all 45 supporters are bad people.

Seems that all the bad people are 45 supporters.

I sense a pattern.

[RocketDog]

6 hours ago, John1012 said:

Did these people actually commit any crimes, or were they just talking about out committing a criminal offense? How many people have spoken about doing violence to the PRESIDENT? Have they been arrested?  How many of the BLM affiliated rioters/looters are currently incarcerated, they actually commited crimes.From the original article there seems to be no actual crime committed. It will be interesting to follow the prosecution of these alleged thought crimes.

Conspiracy to commit a crime is a crime. 

[Rimmer]

Some off topic /troll posts and replies have been removed

[earlinclaifornia]

I saw her interview and she said this is just the tip of the iceberg. I like her am scared.

[jimmybcool]

6 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Two of those arrested were part of the heavily-armed right-wingers who entered the Lansing Statehouse after calls by 45 to "Liberate Michigan".

 

The maga gear also suggests their affiliation.

 

 

Got a link to any of that?  I do not see any maga gear.  Lots of projection and speculation.  I'll condemn these clowns regardless of affiliation and I condemn right or left wing loons.  It just gets tiresome that so many people are assuming something not in evidence.  What happened to "I believe in science?".  Well apply the same logic to reading news stories.

 

 

[The Barmbeker]

Remind me of all the plans to kidnap and kill people, that the FBI uncovered, that were made by Antifa and BLM...

[stevenl]

8 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

Got a link to any of that?  I do not see any maga gear.  Lots of projection and speculation.  I'll condemn these clowns regardless of affiliation and I condemn right or left wing loons.  It just gets tiresome that so many people are assuming something not in evidence.  What happened to "I believe in science?".  Well apply the same logic to reading news stories.

 

 

So you're saying you don't believe the US prosecutors.

[The Barmbeker]

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

She was a horrible Attorney General for California, and an even worse District Attorney in San Francisco.

...whereas Trump was and is...

...whereas Pence was and is...

 

If I were supporting these two muppets, I would not point my finger at anybody else!

[jimmybcool]

16 hours ago, stevenl said:

So you're saying you don't believe the US prosecutors.

I have not seen a direct quote from any US prosecutors indicating affiliation.

 

I did stumble onto a link to a youtube video of one of the arrested loons.  Decide for yourself if it's real or not and if he is an anarchist or maga fan. 

 

Quote

This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Community Guidelines.

 

BTW good work by FBI etc to stop this before it happened.  Radical militias AND radical anarchists need to be monitored closely.

Edited October 10, 2020 by onthedarkside
video removed by Youtube

[PattayaJames]

7 hours ago, J Town said:

Not all 45 supporters are bad people.

Seems that all the bad people are 45 supporters.

I sense a pattern.

So the far left are all good people in your mind?

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, RoadWarrior371 said:

No reason to fear the police.  Ignorance is the cause of fear.  If you ever achieve some success in your life, you may even learn to respect Law Enforcement. ????

I'm white, I don't fear the police.  However I can see why black people would.

[CorpusChristie]

15 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Different in what way?

Trying to give the impression at all Trump supporters are poorly educated that that Trump likes them because of their lack of education 

[heybruce]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

Trying to give the impression at all Trump supporters are poorly educated that that Trump likes them because of their lack of education 

No one suggested that all Trump supporters are uneducated, and there is no denying that when Trump saw how popular he is with the uneducated he said he loved them.