Study shows Fah Talai Jone may kill Covid-19, but can offer no protection

[webfact]

Study shows Fah Talai Jone may kill Covid-19, but can offer no protection

By The Nation

 

Dr Amporn Benjaponpitak, the deputy director-general of the Department of Health.

 

The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration on Friday released research results showing that Fah Talai Jone (Andrographis Paniculata) may help fight Covid-19.

 

However, the herb cannot provide any protection against the virus.

 

Research has proved that the herb can stop the virus from multiplying, said Dr Amporn Benjaponpitak, the deputy director-general of the Department of Health.

 

“Clinical tests conducted on Covid-19 patients in Samut Prakan, Chonburi and Banglamung hospitals showed good signs,” Dr Amporn said.

 

She added that the patients began responding to herb immediately and improved within three days. The medication also did not have any adverse effects on their liver or kidney.

 

The Department of Health will continue working with the Chulabhorn Research Institute to study the benefits of Fah Talai Jone.

 

Another study in collaboration with Ramathibodi Hospital is being conducted on fingerroot, which may have an inhibitory effect on Covid-19.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30395913

 

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[RJRS1301]

Please release link for the research for information

[samsensam]

 

results on patients from hospitals in three cities isn't exactly the most extensive clinical trail...

[Mr Meeseeks]

I only have this to say: 

[teacherofwoe]

53 minutes ago, webfact said:

Research has proved that the herb can stop the virus from multiplying, said Dr Amporn Benjaponpitak, the deputy director-general of the Department of Health.

Pray tell

[Dumbastheycome]

Why knock it if it is an ancient medicinal with a reputation for reducing the longevity or effects of many ailments.

It has no "scientific" proof but then the Pharmaceutical companies would rather sell something they have a lucrative patent on so such proof  has been avoided.

Penicillin was  just an annoying mold until it was discovered to be  a major medicine.

[RJRS1301]

8 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Why knock it if it is an ancient medicinal with a reputation for reducing the longevity or effects of many ailments.

It has no "scientific" proof but then the Pharmaceutical companies would rather sell something they have a lucrative patent on so such proof  has been avoided.

Penicillin was  just an annoying mold until it was discovered to be  a major medicine.

I am not knocking it, I would like to see the complete "study" and trial data which could prove the claim to be correct, otherwise this is just anecdotal 

[DrTuner]

2 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Please release link for the research for information

This is Thailand, what comes from a Doctor is gospel. No need for a stinking paper, thou shalt believe and obey!

[RJRS1301]

2 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

This is Thailand, what comes from a Doctor is gospel. No need for a stinking paper, thou shalt believe and obey!

OK Great and wonderous Oz

[ukrules]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

She added that the patients began responding to herb immediately and improved within three days.

I will note that most patients get better within a few days with or without any treatment.

 

I would like to see the definition of 'patient' here as well, just how ill were these 'patients'?

 

We all know someone testing positive with zero symptoms in Thailand is a medical emergency that can require long stays in hospital even if there are never any symptoms. This is why you must get the special Thai insurance before entering the country.

 

Edited October 9, 2020 by ukrules

[Robin]

I thought that Thailand has discovered a vaccine against Covid some weeks ago.  Is this another false alarm, making wild claims without any real proof.

[Orton Rd]

Got four bottles of the stuff i'd give it a try if needed

[herfiehandbag]

I've used the stuff several times over the last few years, when suffering from a heavy cold or to he flu. It has seemed effective.

[mrfill]

I bet this Fah Talei Jone can unblock toilets and make your car run smoother too...

[mikebell]

48 minutes ago, mrfill said:

I bet this Fah Talei Jone can unblock toilets and make your car run smoother too...

And cure Ebola - oh no the Thais have already done that.

[Rookiescot]

Wonder what the chances are that a close family member owns the largest Fah Talai Jone farm in Thailand ????

[faraday]

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07391102.2020.1760136

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7212536/

 

Might be some truth in it

Edited October 10, 2020 by faraday

[phantomfiddler]

Wouldn,t it be nice to know what this stuff looked like, what form it comes in, and where it can be purchased ?

[pacovl46]

15 hours ago, ukrules said:

I will note that most patients get better within a few days with or without any treatment.

 

I would like to see the definition of 'patient' here as well, just how ill were these 'patients'?

 

We all know someone testing positive with zero symptoms in Thailand is a medical emergency that can require long stays in hospital even if there are never any symptoms. This is why you must get the special Thai insurance before entering the country.

 

Infected people get a lot worse after the first 4 or 5 days and not better after 3, unless their family name is Trump!

Edited October 10, 2020 by pacovl46

[pacovl46]

Let’s hope for the best!

[soalbundy]

I have this plant growing in my garden (as a weed). My wife says that for various illnesses (including dengue fever) the doctor has recommended that she chew on a few leaves of the plant, she says that the length of an illness for which it had been recommended was very much reduced, in particular dengue fever symptoms were significantly reduced however the leaves are extremely bitter and requires a large amount of will power just to eat two leaves.

[soalbundy]

6 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said:

Wouldn,t it be nice to know what this stuff looked like, what form it comes in, and where it can be purchased ?

Google is your friend, pics are available

https://www.shutterstock.com/search/talai

Edited October 10, 2020 by soalbundy

[pattjock]

This is one of the most researched ayurdavedic herbs in the market. It has been proven to kill or reduce bacteria, virus, fungus and parasites without any side effects. It has been used in India for hundreds of years and is also grown and used in Thailand.

 

At the beginning of covid 19 the government here recommended that everyone use this herb with the result that it immediately sold out in Thailand and was gone for 2 weeks. Maybe that have something to do with the low number of deaths here in Thailand ?

 

Now it's available in most pharmacies and herb shops for just over 100Baht for a 2 weeks supply.

[Surelynot]

Yet another Thai 'cure' which will disappear from the headlines in due course.

 

As someone once said........humans have tried everything as a treatment for ailments.....all the stuff that worked we now called medicine.....all the rest that didn't work is still called homeopathy.

Edited October 10, 2020 by Surelynot

[pattjock]

This herb is more known as kariyat if you want to google for more information.

[khunPer]

21 hours ago, samsensam said:

 

results on patients from hospitals in three cities isn't exactly the most extensive clinical trail...

Your start somewhere in the small – like many big companies started in a garage – and if it's successful then you expand to a larger scale; this is a start...????

[PETERTHEEATER]

22 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Please release link for the research for information

It's still on the back of a fag packet ????

[Dumbastheycome]

21 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

I am not knocking it, I would like to see the complete "study" and trial data which could prove the claim to be correct, otherwise this is just anecdotal 

Fair position but given that the announcement is only of tentative but promising indications there is probably insufficient data yet to make absolute claim of  proof. As an unrestricted herb and if of some benefit even for things lesser than  C-19 there is no  harm in the information as stands anecdotal or not.

[ourmanflint]

Took it, it helped a lot. Covid over in 5-6 days

[John Drake]

Timely. I became quite ill on Wednesday evening, with headache, fever, and nausea. No sore throat. I don't know what the problem actually was. With fever mounting continuously, by yesterday afternoon I remembered I had bought a bottle of Fah ta lai Jone capsules right before the lockdown. Took four of them after dinner and in less than 90 minutes the fever seemed to break. Took three more at bedtime last night. Woke up and no fever. Coincidence. Could be. Might be just having worked through the illness, whatever it was. Don't care. Next time, I'll take at the first sign of fever.