20 killed after train collides with bus in Thailand

[dslocum]

6 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

Exactly Colin.

There is a crossing I use here on the way to Makro. There are no barriers, only a flashing light. However, I ALWAYS stop, and look both ways before I drive over the lines. Regardless of the lights not flashing. I have even had cars behind toot the horn because I stop for three seconds !!!! They will never, ever learn.

Looking at that crossing on Google Street Maps (dated April 2013 - over 7 years ago) and comparing it to the footage today, since then it seems they have added Stop signs, crossing lights and speed bumps.  So there should be no reason to ignore any or all of those.

13.707367, 100.967928

 

RIP all, and if the driver survived he should be charged and jailed with proper police "finger pointing" photos.  Maybe others will listen?  Neh.

[KhaoNiaw]

1 hour ago, smew said:

RIP.

My guess is the bus driver had no license.

Wrong, he did have a license.

[stouricks]

3 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

Wrong, he did have a license.

How do you know that, did they find it on his body? And how did he get one if he did?

[KhaoNiaw]

1 minute ago, stouricks said:

How do you know that, did they find it on his body? And how did he get one if he did?

It's reported in the news. He's had a license for 24 years, issued in Samutprakan, next expiring 26 December this year. Aged 54, he died in the accident. 

[Pancho]

So here I sit, Anglo Saxon, Engineer, and my last post was About tolerance  for my gracious hosts here in the land of smiles.

At this point, clearly, the focus is on the family’s and rectifying  ( and most importantly assigning blame) in this horror show. And the 34 yr old  bus driver who proudly made it past 4th grade.

If this country wants to play on the world stage, put on the BIG Boy pants, have dinner with Putin, Xi, Trump,& Boris, this stops here and now.

The world is laughing AT you, not with you.

The system is corrupt to the core.

Here and now, before the next news cycle, IT IS IMPERATIVE, what  remnants of a judicial system is put to task.

Western justice, an eye for an eye, backed up by BILlIONS of Thb in punitive damages.

Lots of undeclared gold in safe houses. LOTS.
 

I will pray for the innocent souls who trusted their government to protect them, and paid with their lives.

Somehow, I don’t think the survivors will be gracious with 20 kg of rice .

 

and it must be said, this is the same group who think they are the safest country in the world:Re Covid.

news flash, it’s no worse than the common seasonal flu.

 

All the posing for the cameras   Fictional updates, is simply optics.

 

Sources Say.

[Scott]

Inflammatory post reported and removed.

[gunderhill]

3 hours ago, Mak25 said:

 

Railway crossings usually have a railway crossing sign which gives the train the right of way in any case, even when signals are not working.

 

(I know, not in Thailand) It is a basic lesson at driving school to slow down in any case, look left/right before crossing, not to shift gears and not to stop on the tracks.

But that BIG hexagonal stop sign sure looks  like it's  working.

[elliss]

3 hours ago, Airbagwill said:

There is no system for this in Thailand.

All such accidents - road or otherwise are never properly investigated in Thailand There is no scientific analysis of what happened and so nothing is learned....it is just left open for an untrained and uniformed senior police officer to make a few conclusions the are barely any better than the beer-soaked rubbish on this thread.

 

If a properly designed crossing had been in place, this accident could never have happened - "brain dead" driver or not.

 

 I have been in the Kingdom of Thailand , some 15 years , or more .

 One thing , is for sure .

 Scientific analysis of anything, Thai culture ,  not have .

 Keeping Education standards low ?..

  No racist remark , intended. 

 In summary , nothing is learned , and never will be . 

This is Thailand ...

 

 

[elliss]

1 hour ago, smew said:

Stop sign or railway crossing they never stop just go right through.

And get very angry when you toot horn at them...

 

One accident matches all covid19 deaths and yet their actions-reaction so much different, they over-react to chinese virus and do nothing about road safety, absurd, government of incompetence   

 

    Stop signs , red lights , railway crossing , License, conjecture ...?

      Covid 19 / Chinese flu .. 

       Netfix , you have a new member ...

 

       

[The Theory]

Unbelievable, The bus crossed the 1st track and missed the Train on 2nd track!!!! 
 

[stouricks]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

So here I sit, Anglo Saxon, Engineer, and my last post was About tolerance  for my gracious hosts here in the land of smiles.

At this point, clearly, the focus is on the family’s and rectifying  ( and most importantly assigning blame) in this horror show. And the 34 yr old  bus driver who proudly made it past 4th grade.

If this country wants to play on the world stage, put on the BIG Boy pants, have dinner with Putin, Xi, Trump,& Boris, this stops here and now.

The world is laughing AT you, not with you.

The system is corrupt to the core.

Here and now, before the next news cycle, IT IS IMPERATIVE, what  remnants of a judicial system is put to task.

Western justice, an eye for an eye, backed up by BILlIONS of Thb in punitive damages.

Lots of undeclared gold in safe houses. LOTS.
 

I will pray for the innocent souls who trusted their government to protect them, and paid with their lives.

Somehow, I don’t think the survivors will be gracious with 20 kg of rice .

 

and it must be said, this is the same group who think they are the safest country in the world:Re Covid.

news flash, it’s no worse than the common seasonal flu.

 

All the posing for the cameras   Fictional updates, is simply optics.

 

Sources Say.

Khio Naew says driver was 54, you say 34. Who's correct? As if it really matters.

[tifino]

2 minutes ago, stouricks said:

Khio Naew says driver was 54, you say 34. Who's correct? As if it really matters.

well for the driver...

 - 20yrs worth of brown undies skid marks flashed thru his head in but a few seconds...

[Maestro]

5 hours ago, chang1 said:

The stop sign is still in working order though.

 

But the stop sign in the video is on the right side of the road, ie the wrong side. Difficult to say if there is also one on the left side but obscured in the video by the bushes. There was one on the left side in this street view photo of April 2013, GPS 13.7066693,100.9677998

 

[elliss]

1 hour ago, KhaoNiaw said:

It's reported in the news. He's had a license for 24 years, issued in Samutprakan, next expiring 26 December this year. Aged 54, he died in the accident. 

 

 Wow , we believe the news.

   What ever next ...

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by elliss

[KhaoNiaw]

3 minutes ago, elliss said:

 

 Wow , we believe the news.

   What ever next ...

 

I must be one of those sheeple ... I'm sure they just made all the details on the spur of the moment and nothing to do with the driving license at the scene. 

[ericthai]

8 hours ago, Crash999 said:

From that video it’s clear that the bus didn’t get stuck. Driver wasn’t paying attention at all. 

I dont thing this video is of this accident.  

The bus from the accident was split into two according to the article, the bus in this video is pushed around.

Edited October 11, 2020 by ericthai

[Arthur Mullard]

3 hours ago, Arthur Mullard said:

At the point of impact the driver appears to be motionless.. or < 0.5 mph??

Oops ???? you're correct. Wrong video! Uncannily similar and viewed elsewhere, not here ????

[elliss]

5 minutes ago, ericthai said:

I dont thing this video is of this accident.  

The bus from the accident was split into two according to the article, the bus in this video is pushed around.

 

    The plot thickens ...

    One thing is for sure .

    The truth , will never be known ..

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by elliss

[jerolamo]

instead of be xenophobic with foreigner and maintain population poor and afraid with this stupid COVID story, they should better do something for secure road and teach something usual at drive school (and much more for bus and truck drivers).

 

RIP for all the poor innocent victims of the massive denial stupidity.

[thailand49]

Sometimes the answer is real simple?  Sure there should be a crossing protection arm!  Then you got very little education and training for commercial drivers which majority of regular drivers in Thailand don't seem to value or understand and that is a (STOP SIGN) which there was clearly one in this video whether there was one of the actual accident?  but STOP SIGNS here it means nothing! 

If educated and trained properly it would have been STOP AND PROCEED WITH CAUTION!  That is all it would have taken to prevent this avoidable accident.

Edited October 11, 2020 by thailand49

[Arthur Mullard]

4 hours ago, Arthur Mullard said:

That's not what I saw... he was nowhere near making it. But there has to be an explanation - as you say - for the pause/virtual standstill at the point of impact?? Beggars belief. It certainly was VERY slow. Meanwhile some onlookers continue driving by.... ????

Sorry I was watching thew wrong video. The driver is clearly moving albeit slowly on the CCTV footage in this discussion.

[Bruce Aussie Chiang Mai]

Make law all buses, trucks and fuel tankers stop at every unmarked or uncontrolled railway crossing.

Dreaming that will never work.

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[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

Condolences to the berieved, RIP to the dead and may the injured make a speedy and full recovery. 

I always wonder who writes these reports: "Train collides with bus". Unless the train had first derailed, the bus collided with the train. If the bus was stationary it must have been in the way of the train. As most people are aware trains cannot change direction or stop suddenly to avoid objects in its way. A slow moving freight train, slow as all Thai trains are slow, is not difficult to see and road/railway crossings are not something you don't notice, particularly in a station or if you stop on one. 

Where is the bus driver?

 

 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by George FmplesdaCosteedback
typo

[RobU]

10 hours ago, decca60 said:

I am not a specialist but 60 people on board sounds like overloaded bus and not everybody having a seat...... I don't even think about seatbelts....

utter madness.....

The number of seats depends on the length of the coach and the number of axles the average for a 12 metre bus is 50 to 55. So 60 is not out of the question if the bus was packed and there were 5 standing (or 5 small children) or the bus is a semi double decker with a small lower deck at the rear replacing part of the luggage compartment which usually runs the full length of the bus. We don't use seatbelts on buses in the UK why should they do it in Thailand?

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

12 hours ago, transam said:

*Perhaps the coach was heavily laden on worn out suspension and so low to the ground....?

It had 60 passengers, must have been overloaded. But that still makes it the bus crew's fault.

[CorpusChristie]

10 hours ago, THEN said:

R.I.P.

 

Windy.com shows a low visibility area in Chachoengsao at 8.00 am this morning.

Visibility up to only 800m.

Not trying to defend the bus driver, but the train could have come out of the fog/low visibility area and the bus driver didn't care or respect the signals.

 

800 meter visibility , train going 100 KM per hour , 1.6 kilometers per minute , would have given the bus driver 30 seconds to see the train 

[PatOngo]

2 hours ago, Bruce Aussie Chiang Mai said:

Make law all buses, trucks and fuel tankers stop at every unmarked or uncontrolled railway crossing.

Dreaming that will never work.

????❤????????????

Just as they "make them" wear helmets on motorcy's and carry a valid drivers license! ????

[Asking for a friend]

My condolences. Tragedy is tragedy no matter the cause or location. Hope something is learned and good can come from it.

[webfact]

20 killed on temple trip in Thailand as bus, train collide

 

Rescue workers stand at the crash site where a train collided with a passengers bus in Chacheongsao province in central Thailand October 11, 2020. Dailynews via REUTERS

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - A bus heading to a Buddhist temple collided with a train in central Thailand on Sunday, killing at least 20 people dead and injuring 30, authorities said.

 

The accident took place at 8:05 a.m. (0105 GMT) near the Khlong Kwaeng Klan railway station 63 km (40 miles) east of Bangkok, said Maitree Tritilanon, governor of Chachoengsao province, where the crash occurred.

 

A tour bus carrying some 60 factory workers on their way to a Buddhist ceremony at a temple was crossing a railway track when it was hit by a freight train headed to the capital from the east of the country.

 

The bus was flipped on its side its side and the top ripped off, with debris and metal scattered around the accident area, images from rescue workers showed. The train remained on the rails.

 

Rescue workers stand at the crash site where a train collided with a passengers bus in Chacheongsao province in central Thailand October 11, 2020. Dailynews via REUTERS

 

Governor Maitree said the crossing has an alarm but does no barrier to block traffic when a train is coming. He said the province will install speed bumps and barriers as well as cut down trees near the crossing to improve visibility.

 

"Let this case be a lesson, and we will make improvements at risky spots so such accidents will not take place again," Maitree said in a statement.

 

Rescue workers stand at the crash site where a train collided with a passengers bus in Chacheongsao province in central Thailand October 11, 2020. Dailynews via REUTERS

 

Thailand's roads rank among the world's deadliest, according to the World Health Organization. There has been little improvement despite safety campaigns over the years.

 

The bus passengers were traveling from Samut Prakan province to a Buddhist temple in Chachoengsao for a merit-making ceremony marking the end of the Buddhist Lent.

 

(Reporting by Panu Wongcha-um; Editing by William Mallard)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-10-12

 

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[Meat Pie 47]

55 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

800 meter visibility , train going 100 KM per hour , 1.6 kilometers per minute , would have given the bus driver 30 seconds to see the train 

You are joking are you? A freight train in Thailand doing 100km per hour?

Lucky if they do 60