Trump to resume campaign as new polls show Biden lead growing in key states

[Sujo]

Biden, sit back and do nothing because trump is your best asset.

 

Trump, heres a fork, stick it in, your done.

[i84teen]

Should come as no surprise the polls are skewed, inflated, and just plain ole inaccurate. There are numerous reports how the Biden campaign is viewing the polls with nervous trepidation. Pay no attention to the polls except the one on Nov 03.

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/we-are-not-ahead-by-double-digits-biden-campaign-manager-reportedly-admits-polls-inflated_3542817.html

Edited October 18, 2020 by i84teen

[Rimmer]

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1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

seeing as the multi award winning and UK's 3rd largest newspaper The Daily Mail, (and although a Trump hating newspaper it is one of the only ones that does real investigative journalism) has been banned from use here recently, I can not give you a link. The story comes from Biden's campaign manager Jen O'Malley Dillon, she stated "Those are inflated national public polling numbers".

 Now I will not waste any more time with this charade of trying to prove the earth is round using only the flat earther society journal. 

I plugged in that quote and came up with this as a source

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/17/us/trump-vs-biden#biden-campaign-advises-caution-again-even-as-national-polls-favor-the-democrat

So, yes, it's true. But this is also standard practice when any campaign is running ahead. It's a way of getting your supporters not to be complacent and turn out to vote. As for the polls being inflated, there's this:

Republicans increasingly seek distance from Trump

 

With President Trump sinking in the polls less than three weeks before the November elections, a growing number of GOP lawmakers are scrambling to distance themselves from their party's embattled standard-bearer — a shift that’s both illuminated Trump’s tumultuous tenure in the White House and driven cracks in the GOP's united front at a particularly inconvenient moment for the unpopular president.

For vulnerable Republicans at risk of losing seats, the detachment appears designed to attract independent and moderate GOP voters who have soured on Trump after four years in office. Others seem to have written the president off and are now burnishing images of political independence in preparation for a Trump-less Washington.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/521433-republicans-increasingly-seek-distance-from-trump

 

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34 minutes ago, i84teen said:

Should come as no surprise the polls are skewed, inflated, and just plain ole inaccurate. There are numerous reports how the Biden campaign is viewing the polls with nervous trepidation. Pay no attention to the polls except the one on Nov 03.

Can you share with us these reports about how "the Biden campaign is viewing the polls with nervous trepidation."

[i84teen]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Can you share with us these reports about how "the Biden campaign is viewing the polls with nervous trepidation."

ok, standby, busy at the moment. Give me 30 minutes, or less.

[polpott]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

seeing as the multi award winning and UK's 3rd largest newspaper The Daily Mail, (and although a Trump hating newspaper it is one of the only ones that does real investigative journalism) has been banned from use here recently, I can not give you a link. The story comes from Biden's campaign manager Jen O'Malley Dillon, she stated "Those are inflated national public polling numbers".

 Now I will not waste any more time with this charade of trying to prove the earth is round using only the flat earther society journal. 

The link didn't work.

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

seeing as the multi award winning and UK's 3rd largest newspaper The Daily Mail, (and although a Trump hating newspaper it is one of the only ones that does real investigative journalism) has been banned from use here recently, I can not give you a link. The story comes from Biden's campaign manager Jen O'Malley Dillon, she stated "Those are inflated national public polling numbers".

 Now I will not waste any more time with this charade of trying to prove the earth is round using only the flat earther society journal. 

The answer you seek is, why do you think its banned on here.

 

Surely a normal person would be concerned with the veracity of his opinion when his links are never allowed.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, i84teen said:

Should come as no surprise the polls are skewed, inflated, and just plain ole inaccurate. There are numerous reports how the Biden campaign is viewing the polls with nervous trepidation. Pay no attention to the polls except the one on Nov 03.

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/we-are-not-ahead-by-double-digits-biden-campaign-manager-reportedly-admits-polls-inflated_3542817.html

Things always tighten up but there would need to be an awful lot of tightening for 45 to win legitimately. He may still stay in power though via fascistic tactics. 

[candide]

2 hours ago, i84teen said:

Should come as no surprise the polls are skewed, inflated, and just plain ole inaccurate. There are numerous reports how the Biden campaign is viewing the polls with nervous trepidation. Pay no attention to the polls except the one on Nov 03.

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/we-are-not-ahead-by-double-digits-biden-campaign-manager-reportedly-admits-polls-inflated_3542817.html

Actually, not all polls show Biden leading by double digits. It varies between + 7 and + 13.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

 

The guy is probably right. National polls only indicate a national trend  about the popular vote. At the electoral college level, the gap may not be that high.

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11 minutes ago, candide said:

Actually, not all polls show Biden leading by double digits. It varies between + 7 and + 13.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

 

The guy is probably right. National polls only indicate a national trend  about the popular vote. At the electoral college level, the gap may not be that high.

Definitely that's true. The national polls aren't insignificant though. The higher the percentage lead at the national level, the more likely an electoral vote victory. But that doesn't mean that Trump's chances are negligible. Right now fivethirtyeight.com has him at a 12% chance of winning. That's not nothing. It's not the 28% chance that they had him at on the eve of the last election but still...

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

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1 hour ago, i84teen said:

Huh?

I don't know how I can make it clearer. Here's your claim: "There are numerous reports how the Biden campaign is viewing the polls with nervous trepidation."

The only evidence you offered in support of that is an article about an incident that was already cited. Where are reports about other instances where the Biden campaign has expressed trepidation about the polls?

[nausea]

3 hours ago, i84teen said:

Should come as no surprise the polls are skewed, inflated, and just plain ole inaccurate. There are numerous reports how the Biden campaign is viewing the polls with nervous trepidation. Pay no attention to the polls except the one on Nov 03.

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/we-are-not-ahead-by-double-digits-biden-campaign-manager-reportedly-admits-polls-inflated_3542817.html

Agree. Depends on which news sources you watch, I suppose. I read somewhere it's all about directing funds to the Biden campaign, no one wants to back a loser.

[i84teen]

32 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I don't know how I can make it clearer. Here's your claim: "There are numerous reports how the Biden campaign is viewing the polls with nervous trepidation."

The only evidence you offered in support of that is an article about an incident that was already cited. Where are reports about other instances where the Biden campaign has expressed trepidation about the polls?

U want links. ok

In the meantime consider Biden's new ground game, knocking on doors now in Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Michigan, Nevada against his ole excuse of the CCP virus to avoid being out in the public and his proclivity for mega gaffes. Confidence may be eroding by this radical change. Throw in Obama now onto the campaign, definite sign of insecurity Need to question Barak about Burisma, curious to hear his response.

Since the revelations about Hunter Biden hit the news, an IBD/TIPP poll shows that Biden's support dropped by slightly over two percentage points, while Trump’s support rose by almost .6 percent.

The number of Democrat VBM (vote by mail) numbers is stagnant, while the number of Republican VBMs continues to rise.

There’s good evidence that the people who haven’t voted but are attending the rallies are registering to vote. In Florida, a key state to win the election, new Republican halved the once huge advantage Democrats had. Republican registration is also rising in Pennsylvania, another must-win state.

 

All things considered these are very interesting trends & facts which tell me Bidens team is doing all it can now. If the Hunter and Joe B Burisma crisis gains more traction it could be all over for Biden.

Edited October 18, 2020 by i84teen

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11 minutes ago, nausea said:

Agree. Depends on which news sources you watch, I suppose. I read somewhere it's all about directing funds to the Biden campaign, no one wants to back a loser.

It only depends on which news source you watch if the news source isn't reporting most of the polls. But it's easy enough to find sources which do.

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3 minutes ago, i84teen said:

U want links. ok

In the meantime consider Bidens new ground game, knocking on doors now in Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Michigan, Nevada against his ole excuse of the CCP virus to avoid being out in the public. Confidence may be eroding by this radical change. Throw in Obama now onto the campaign, definite sign of insecurity Need to question Barak about Burisma, curious to hear his response.

Since the revelations about Hunter Biden hit the news, an IBD/TIPP poll shows that Biden's support dropped by slightly over two percentage points, while Trump’s support rose by almost .6 percent.

The number of Democrat VBM (vote by mail) numbers is stagnant, while the number of Republican VBMs continues to rise.

There’s good evidence that the people who haven’t voted but are attending the rallies are registering to vote. In Florida, a key state to win the election, new Republican halved the once huge advantage Democrats had. Republican registration is also rising in Pennsylvania, another must-win state.

 

All things considered these are very interesting trends & facts which tell me Bidens team is doing all it can now. If the Hunter and Joe B Burisma crisis gains more traction it could be all over for Biden.

Good to see you are a believer in polls after all.

Here's something from fivethirtyeight.com. The first graph highlights where the polling average stands on sep 29th, the day when Trump supporters claim their candidate won a big victory in the polls:

The next is highlighted for oct 17. Notice how in the wake of that debate the gap widened by 3.6%?

 

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16 minutes ago, i84teen said:

 

• https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/10/15/race-for-the-white-house-is-far-closer-than-some-people-think-biden-campaign-manager-warns/#51ea078d3009
• https://news.yahoo.com/biden-campaign-warns-supporters-thing-182700967.html?guccounter=1
• https://www.axios.com/joe-biden-election-chances-democratic-worries-03b6ab66-16a0-4f7a-9ce4-1c676929fd4c.html

Again you repeatedly reference that one incident. Where are the numerous incidents showing the Biden's campaign's trepidation?

[polpott]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/2020-election-vote-how-many-trump-biden-mail-in-ballot-latest-b1102127.html

 

25 million votes already cast.

 

"Among 15 states that provide voters’ party affiliation, Democrats have returned more than 5.8 million ballots – more than double the total number of ballots sent by Republicans (2.5 million)."

 

Look out Donald the tide's coming in.

[i84teen]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Again you repeatedly reference that one incident. Where are the numerous incidents showing the Biden's campaign's trepidation?

oh, ok so sorry. I gotta go now, (to the toilet). There are spooks in here now.

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37 minutes ago, i84teen said:

U want links. ok

In the meantime consider Biden's new ground game, knocking on doors now in Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Michigan, Nevada against his ole excuse of the CCP virus to avoid being out in the public and his proclivity for mega gaffes. Confidence may be eroding by this radical change. Throw in Obama now onto the campaign, definite sign of insecurity Need to question Barak about Burisma, curious to hear his response.

Since the revelations about Hunter Biden hit the news, an IBD/TIPP poll shows that Biden's support dropped by slightly over two percentage points, while Trump’s support rose by almost .6 percent.

The number of Democrat VBM (vote by mail) numbers is stagnant, while the number of Republican VBMs continues to rise.

There’s good evidence that the people who haven’t voted but are attending the rallies are registering to vote. In Florida, a key state to win the election, new Republican halved the once huge advantage Democrats had. Republican registration is also rising in Pennsylvania, another must-win state.

 

All things considered these are very interesting trends & facts which tell me Bidens team is doing all it can now. If the Hunter and Joe B Burisma crisis gains more traction it could be all over for Biden.

More likely because the Biden campaign is raising way more funds than than Trump's, particularly from small contributors, it can afford to do a lot more than Trump can.

And it seems you're ignoring the huge early turnout in Texas in Democratic areas.

As for the laughable allegations about the Hunter Biden files, maybe that sells to dwellers in the Trump bubble, but it obviously stinks of disinformation. And who apart from diehard Trump supports is going to believe anything coming from Steve Bannon and Rudolph Giuliani? In a news report inked by a "reporter" who was a producer for Sean Hannity for over 3 years? I put "reporter" in quotes because she has very little experience as one and none as an investigative journalist at all.

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[Tie Dye Samurai]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

And who apart from diehard Trump supports is going to believe anything coming from Steve Bannon and Rudolph Giuliani? 

Is Steve Bannon barking from the Chinese Billionaire's yacht (there is an ankle bracelet in that guy's future)? And Rudy Giulliani cant even convince his own daughter that Trump is the best candidate. If any of you believe anything Steve Bannon has to say, why don't you contribute to his build the wall fund...obviously Mexico needs your help paying the bill (and Bannon needs a nest egg to embezzle from).

[3NUMBAS]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jon-voight-brands-joe-biden-133800146.html

 

olitics

Jon Voight brands Joe Biden ‘evil’ in intense pro-Trump video appeal

Harriet Brewis

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Evening Standard•18 October 2020

[Berkshire]

18 hours ago, i84teen said:

All things considered these are very interesting trends & facts which tell me Bidens team is doing all it can now. If the Hunter and Joe B Burisma crisis gains more traction it could be all over for Biden.

5555....do you really believe what you're shoveling?  No one with any journalistic integrity believes that NY Post Hunter Biden story.  Do you want to know who's probably the most skeptical?  The NY Post!  Their own journalists believe that story has more holes than Swiss cheese. 

 

[The New York Post’s own journalists say they are skeptical of the paper’s stories about Hunter Biden, including the man who wrote most of the “smoking gun” story and would not put his name on it, four newsroom sources told Intelligencer.]

[“I think it was very flimsy,” one Post reporter told Intelligencer.]

[Another journalist at the paper was even more blunt.

“It’s not something that meets my journalistic standards,” they said, adding that the piece “should not have been published.”]

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/new-york-post-insiders-slag-flimsy-hunter-biden-stories.html

 

[Eric Loh]

32 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jon-voight-brands-joe-biden-133800146.html

 

olitics

Jon Voight brands Joe Biden ‘evil’ in intense pro-Trump video appeal

Harriet Brewis

,

Evening Standard•18 October 2020

Who is this Jon Voight chap? Never heard of him. Is he important like ex-Trump chief of staff Kelly who call Trump the most flawed human being or ex-secretary of state Tillerson who call Trump a moron. 

[RJRS1301]

15 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Who is this Jon Voight chap? Never heard of him. Is he important like ex-Trump chief of staff Kelly who call Trump the most flawed human being or ex-secretary of state Tillerson who call Trump a moron. 

Midnight Cowboy

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Set in New York City, Midnight Cowboy depicts the unlikely friendship between two hustlers: naïve prostitute Joe Buck (Voight), and ailing con man "Ratso" Rizzo (Hoffman).

Based on	Midnight Cowboy by James Leo Herlihy
Starring	Dustin Hoffman Jon Voight

Midnight Cowboy is a 1969 American buddy drama film, based on the 1965 novel of the same name by James Leo Herlihy. The film was written by Waldo Salt, directed by John Schlesinger, and stars Jon Voight and Dustin Hoffman

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edited October 19, 2020 by RJRS1301

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1 hour ago, 3NUMBAS said:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jon-voight-brands-joe-biden-133800146.html

 

olitics

Jon Voight brands Joe Biden ‘evil’ in intense pro-Trump video appeal

Harriet Brewis

,

Evening Standard•18 October 2020

Some words of wisdom from Jon Voight:

"The Democratic Party, in its quest for power, has managed a propaganda campaign with subliminal messages, creating a God-like figure in a man who falls short in every way," Voight tells us. "It seems to me that if Mr Obama wins the presidential election, then Messrs Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger will gain power for their need to demoralise this country and help create a socialist America."

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/the-weird-world-of-john-voight-dadgelina-28456979.html

 

 

“My fellow Americans, too many are angered at the words of racism,” the “Ray Donovan” actor said in a video he tweeted over the weekend, captioned "Jon Voight’s message for America."

“This has been a big issue for the black community since the Civil War, but this has been solved long ago by our forefathers for peace and love,” the actor continued in the video.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/456418-jon-voight-pushes-back-against-critics-who-say-trump-is-racist

 

 "I was caught up in the hysteria during the Vietnam era, which was brought about through Marxist propaganda underlying the so-called peace movement. The radicals of that era were successful in giving the communists power to bring forth the killing fields and slaughter 2.5 million people in Cambodia and South Vietnam."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/28/voight/

Edited October 19, 2020 by placeholder

[nausea]

WOW! This is getting nasty. It's really interesting following the left wing and right wing media; on the one hand Trump is screwed, on the other, it's all smoke and mirrors. 

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, nausea said:

WOW! This is getting nasty. It's really interesting following the left wing and right wing media; on the one hand Trump is screwed, on the other, it's all smoke and mirrors. 

Getting nasty? That's rich.

[nausea]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Getting nasty? That's rich.

True. 

[candide]

3 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Midnight Cowboy

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Set in New York City, Midnight Cowboy depicts the unlikely friendship between two hustlers: naïve prostitute Joe Buck (Voight), and ailing con man "Ratso" Rizzo (Hoffman).

Based on	Midnight Cowboy by James Leo Herlihy
Starsdring	Dustin Hoffman Jon Voight

Midnight Cowboy is a 1969 American buddy drama film, based on the 1965 novel of the same name by James Leo Herlihy. The film was written by Waldo Salt, directed by John Schlesinger, and stars Jon Voight and Dustin Hoffman

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I like Trumps reply on Twitter!

John, thank you. Such a great honor! ????