Brexit brinkmanship: Johnson says prepare for no-deal, cancels trade talks

[david555]

 (What we gone have now ....? U.K.   ????  ?  Are you sure you are  O.K. ? ????   ).... ????

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/17/majority-of-eu-population-feel-good-about-bloc-study-finds

 

Majority of EU population feel good about bloc, study finds
In the UK, 60% of respondents have a favourable view, the highest on record

 

Jon Henley @jonhenley
Tue 17 Nov 2020 15.00 GMTLast modified on Tue 17 Nov 2020 16.34 GMT
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Positive ratings about the EU were stable or higher than  last year in almost all member states surveyed, Pew said.
 Positive ratings about the EU were stable or higher than last year in almost all member states surveyed
More people hold a favourable view of the European Union than not in every member state surveyed in a new poll, while positive opinions in Britain – which left the bloc in January – are the highest on record.

 

A Pew Research Center study of eight EU countries also found more than half of respondents felt confident Germany’s Angela Merkel and France’s Emmanuel Macron would do the right thing, but far fewer showed as much trust in Boris Johnson.

 

The survey of Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and Sweden, carried out from mid-June to late July between the first and second waves of Covid-19, found a median of 66% of people polled approved of the EU.

 

 

Edited November 17, 2020 by david555

[7by7]

11 minutes ago, david555 said:

while positive opinions (of the EU) in Britain (60%) – which left the bloc in January – are the highest on record.

 

 

Do you think certain members will be along soon to label those 60% of British respondents as anti British and unpatriotic?

[david555]

13 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

Do you think certain members will be along soon to label those 60% of British respondents as anti British and unpatriotic?

I am sure they (  "those certain members "...) go blame this on the Scot's  ????  

Edited November 17, 2020 by david555

[7by7]

Oven-ready Brexit deal to be final challenge on Bake Off

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A TRIO of amateur bakers will shoulder the hopes of a nation by creating oven-ready Brexit deals for the final challenge of The Great British Bake Off. 

After tackling battenbergs, babka and steamed buns, the finalist will have just three hours to create a showstopper challenge which impresses the EU, the ERG, Red Wall voters, the incoming Biden administration, Pru Leith and Paul Hollywood.

 

[david555]

Good old www.express.com....????????????????

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1361687/brexit-news-eu-uk-trade-talks-david-frost-michel-barnier-transition-period-concessions-spt

 

By Martina Bet

15:31, Wed, Nov 18, 2020 | UPDATED: 15:33, Wed, Nov 18, 

 

Brexit fury: David Frost left door open to Britain rejoining EU after transition period

DAVID FROST once left the door open to Britain rejoining the European Union after the transition period in a throwback column written just after the Brexit referendum

[Rookiescot]

14 minutes ago, david555 said:

Good old www.express.com....????????????????

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1361687/brexit-news-eu-uk-trade-talks-david-frost-michel-barnier-transition-period-concessions-spt

 

By Martina Bet

15:31, Wed, Nov 18, 2020 | UPDATED: 15:33, Wed, Nov 18, 

 

Brexit fury: David Frost left door open to Britain rejoining EU after transition period

DAVID FROST once left the door open to Britain rejoining the European Union after the transition period in a throwback column written just after the Brexit referendum

 

Absolutely priceless.

 

It is not the first controversial comment made by Lord Frost before becoming chief negotiator, though.

In a pamphlet written just before the referendum, he warned that in trade talks with the EU “it will be Britain that has to make the concessions to get the deal”.

[david555]

4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Absolutely priceless.

 

It is not the first controversial comment made by Lord Frost before becoming chief negotiator, though.

In a pamphlet written just before the referendum, he warned that in trade talks with the EU “it will be Britain that has to make the concessions to get the deal”.

But in his controversy   .......

he is realistic ....

????

[Scott]

Posts from unapproved sources removed.  Twitter is NOT a news source.   Please post from a credible source.  

[tebee]

12 hours ago, Scott said:

Posts from unapproved sources removed.  Twitter is NOT a news source.   Please post from a credible source.  

 

 

Is this better ?

 

this the actual article rather than the tweet from the journalist who wrote the article.

 

Just so I can clarify what is acceptable here and not make the same mistake.

 

Brexit is creating jots of new customs - in Europe and the  far east 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-18/brexit-creates-jobs-for-customs-staff-in-eastern-europe-india

 

 

[david555]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-trade-deal-eu-michael-barnier-b1745991.html

 

Brexit talks suspended at key moment after EU negotiator tests positive for Covid

 

Jon Stone

Policy Correspondent

@joncstone

2 minutes ago

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Brexit trade talks have had to be suspended at a crucial moment after a member of the EU negotiating team tested positive for Covid-19.

Michel Barnier, the head of the EU delegation, said both sides had agreed to suspend top-level negotiations “for a short period” as a precautionary measures.

Edited November 19, 2020 by david555

[candide]

5 hours ago, david555 said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-trade-deal-eu-michael-barnier-b1745991.html

 

Brexit talks suspended at key moment after EU negotiator tests positive for Covid

 

Jon Stone

Policy Correspondent

@joncstone

2 minutes ago

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Brexit trade talks have had to be suspended at a crucial moment after a member of the EU negotiating team tested positive for Covid-19.

Michel Barnier, the head of the EU delegation, said both sides had agreed to suspend top-level negotiations “for a short period” as a precautionary measures.

Diplomatic illness? 

[david555]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Diplomatic illness? 

Copy cat Boris case?

[evadgib]

HMG are still getting on with it:

Third round of Indonesian and UK governments’ Joint Trade Review

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Indonesian Ministry of Trade and the UK’s Department for International Trade held a third round of discussions between Wednesday 18 and Thursday 19 November.

 

[Surelynot]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

HMG are still getting on with it:

Third round of Indonesian and UK governments’ Joint Trade Review

 

£2.9 Billion....wouldn't get of bed for that........

[7by7]

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

HMG are still getting on with it:

Third round of Indonesian and UK governments’ Joint Trade Review

 

Not a lot of substance there, considering the process started in 2016: Indonesia to use EU template for post-Brexit UK FTA, says Jokowi advisor

 

Negotiations for the EU/Indonesian FTA, which we could have been a part of, also started in 2016 and are much nearer completion: Report of the virtual round of negotiations for a trade agreement between the European Union and Indonesia.

 

Which shows where Indonesia's priorities lie!

 

[7by7]

Brexit deal close to being finalised, EU ambassadors told

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Most key issues largely agreed, but there is still a danger of no deal by accident, envoys hear

 

[evadgib]

More 'getting on with it' from HMG:

UK secures vital rollover trade deal with Canada and agrees to start negotiating more advanced deal next year

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International Trade Secretary Liz Truss has today secured an agreement for a continuity trade deal with “friend and ally” Canada.

 

Edited November 21, 2020 by evadgib

[candide]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

More 'getting on with it' from HMG:

UK secures vital rollover trade deal with Canada and agrees to start negotiating more advanced deal next year

 

A big thank you to the EU for negotiating the initial deal!

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"agreed an ‘agreement in principle’ to roll over current EU-Canada trading arrangements and begin negotiations on a new, bespoke UK-Canada trade deal in 2021."

But wow!

"with the potential to go further in areas like digital trade, the environment and women’s economic empowerment"

 

[david555]

8 hours ago, candide said:

A big thank you to the EU for negotiating the initial deal!

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"agreed an ‘agreement in principle’ to roll over current EU-Canada trading arrangements and begin negotiations on a new, bespoke UK-Canada trade deal in 2021."

But wow!

"with the potential to go further in areas like digital trade, the environment and women’s economic empowerment"

 

So  now the U.K. have their "Canada deal " .... hope they stop nagging on our heads for a "Canada deal "  ... they have one  , so take your "Aussie deal" now  and make your way ????

[transam]

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

So  now the U.K. have their "Canada deal " .... hope they stop nagging on our heads for a "Canada deal "  ... they have one  , so take your "Aussie deal" now  and make your way ????

We have been doing that for many months, isn't it great.......

[luckyluke]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

8 minutes ago, david555 said:

and make your way ????

We have been doing that for many months, isn't it great

 

It seems to me that ,so far, the only ways the E.U. and the U.K. are doing since months and months,  is through their negotiators, being :

Brussels to London and London to Brussels.

[Tofer]

On 11/19/2020 at 7:32 AM, Rookiescot said:

 

Absolutely priceless.

 

It is not the first controversial comment made by Lord Frost before becoming chief negotiator, though.

In a pamphlet written just before the referendum, he warned that in trade talks with the EU “it will be Britain that has to make the concessions to get the deal”.

I don't understand what point you are trying to make. It's irrelevant what comments he may have made historically.

 

The important fact is here and now, the UK's red lines have been stated, and he will not budge.

 

If the EU insist on maintaining control over the UK, there will be no deal, and hopefully nobody will be fouled by the EU's devious attempts to invoke a "provisional deal". Presumably this is an attempt to cement the Withdrawal Agreement and claim the £39B, which hopefully Frost will make contingent on a final deal being established, ratified by the EU states, and signed.

 

 

[Tofer]

On 11/20/2020 at 6:10 PM, Surelynot said:

£2.9 Billion....wouldn't get of bed for that........

 

Sorry it appears to be upsetting you that UK are not falling on their a..e, and are successfully moving on with their independent future, contrary to the scarmongers opinions amongst you, that nobody will trade / deal with UK again. It must really stick in your craw.....

[Tofer]

20 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Brexit deal close to being finalised, EU ambassadors told

 

There's no accident about it. It's all down to the EU's ridiculous demands to retain control over UK's governance. The red lines have not changed at all, and neither has the WA's principle of respecting UK's sovereignty, which the EU choose to disregard.

[david555]

 ( But it outraged Nigel furious ???? Brexit news: Nigel Farage angry after Britain pays European Union EU exit bill | World | News | Express.co.uk ........)

 

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/19/revealed-britain-quietly-paid-1bn-brexit-day-bill-brussels/

Exclusive: Britain quietly paid £1bn Brexit Day bill to Brussels
The European Commission said the date of the demand, which saw the UK pay an increased £10bn EU budget contribution, was 'coincidence'

 

By James Crisp,
 BRUSSELS CORRESPONDENT 21 November 2020 • 9:00pm

 

Britain quietly paid the billion pound bill it was handed by Brussels on Brexit Day during EU trade negotiations, the Telegraph can reveal, as hopes that a deal can finally be done rise. 

 

The European Commission sent the Government a demand for an extra £1.09 billion on top of its Budget payments to Brussels on January 31, the very day the UK legally left the EU. 

 

Senior officials told EU ambassadors that a deal was “close” and “95 per cent” done on Friday, despite trade negotiations being thrown into disarray after a member of Michel Barnier’s team tested positive for coronavirus.

 

more..

Edited November 22, 2020 by david555

[Rookiescot]

3 hours ago, Tofer said:

I don't understand what point you are trying to make. It's irrelevant what comments he may have made historically.

 

The important fact is here and now, the UK's red lines have been stated, and he will not budge.

 

If the EU insist on maintaining control over the UK, there will be no deal, and hopefully nobody will be fouled by the EU's devious attempts to invoke a "provisional deal". Presumably this is an attempt to cement the Withdrawal Agreement and claim the £39B, which hopefully Frost will make contingent on a final deal being established, ratified by the EU states, and signed.

 

 

 

The UK is already capitulating sorry its negotiating its red lines.

Wait for the final deal to come out where all those red lines got removed and the fishermen got sold out.

[7by7]

4 hours ago, Tofer said:

There's no accident about it. It's all down to the EU's ridiculous demands to retain control over UK's governance. The red lines have not changed at all, and neither has the WA's principle of respecting UK's sovereignty, which the EU choose to disregard.

 

What "ridiculous demands to retain control over UK's governance" would they be, then?

 

What principles in the WA has the EU chosen to disregard? It is Johnson who wants to renege on the WA, not the EU!

[7by7]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

The UK is already capitulating sorry its negotiating its red lines.

Wait for the final deal to come out where all those red lines got removed and the fishermen got sold out.

 According to @Tofer, whatever the agreement over UK/EU fishing rights, the UK fishermen have already been sold out:

When asked how this deal, and those previously signed with Greenland and the Faroe Islands, would help the UK fishing industry he declined to answer.

[Tofer]

23 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

The UK is already capitulating sorry its negotiating its red lines.

Wait for the final deal to come out where all those red lines got removed and the fishermen got sold out.

Scaremongering again.

 

Ye of little faith.

 

Do you relish the prospect of the UK failing, just to prove your point?

 

A very sad attitude, and rather unpatriotic.

[Tofer]

21 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

What "ridiculous demands to retain control over UK's governance" would they be, then?

 

What principles in the WA has the EU chosen to disregard? It is Johnson who wants to renege on the WA, not the EU!

You mean you really don't know, where on earth have you been all these years?

 

The demand for free access to UK's territorial waters, and the so called "level playing field" tying the UK into EU rules and regulations in perpetuity, all under the control of the EUCJ.

 

The WA stated that the negotiations should be conducted in good faith and with respect for the UK's sovereignty, which they clearly are not!!

 

We've been over and over these subjects, and you're just balking at the facts.