Trump falsely claims victory with votes uncounted, rival Biden confident

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1 minute ago, CG1 Blue said:

The irony is you probably spent the last 4 years complaining about how insulting Trump is. And yet instead of responding with your opinion you throw insults around ????

You're the one who repeatedly makes denigrating comments about Biden without a shred of evidence to back them up. I can only assume you're getting this stuff from sites that Thaivisa.com won't allow to be linked to. I have insulted your sources but not you. Let me show you what serious evidence looks like:

Joe Biden More Likely to Survive 4-Year Term Than Trump, 'Super-Ager' Study Finds

Both President Donald Trump, 74, and former Vice President Joe Biden, 77, are "super-agers" overwhelmingly likely to live beyond their mid-80s—but a new study finds Biden has a higher probability of outliving his younger opponent...

Neither candidate is projected to have major cognitive functioning challenges now or over the next four years, despite critical campaign rhetoric claiming otherwise...

The researchers write that Biden has a "nearly perfect health profile for a man his age," but Trump has "significant but modifiable" risk factors, notably his weight.

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-more-likely-survive-4-year-term-trump-super-ager-study-finds-1536219

And here's a link to the study itself:

https://www.icaa.cc/media/presidential_lifespan_and_healthspan-draft_for_release_1.pdf

 

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5 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

I wouldn't wish a health issue on anyone, but he does appear rather frail already and he hasn't even started the job yet. Let's see. 

It's an anonymous poster's opinion against that of 6 gerontologists. Hmmm...which to choose?

[ballpoint]

On 11/7/2020 at 7:41 PM, Meat Pie 47 said:

Donald Trump has signalled to friends that the Secret Service will have to drag him from the White House, according to a Vanity Fair report.

 

https://www.news.com.au/news/will-trump-physically-refuse-to-leave-white-house-if-biden-wins/news-story/e8177b1fe5e78557e35e2f32015e8b0c

Luckily they've got a lot of experience at escorting him from the Oval Office, due to all the times they took him to cower in his bunker.

[ballpoint]

Trump's not the only Republican refusing to accept the result:

 

"Republican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, of Wisconsin, said Friday that half the country will not accept the outcome of the presidential election if Democrat Joe Biden wins.

Johnson, a staunch supporter of President Donald Trump, also refused to say if he thought the election was legitimate, while admitting he had no proof of any illegal activity...

...“I’m not alleging anything because I have no proof,” Johnson said. “All I’m saying is there are enough irregularities to raise concerns"."

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/pennsylvania/articles/2020-11-06/sen-johnson-says-half-of-country-wont-accept-a-biden-win

[CG1 Blue]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You're the one who repeatedly makes denigrating comments about Biden without a shred of evidence to back them up. I can only assume you're getting this stuff from sites that Thaivisa.com won't allow to be linked to. I have insulted your sources but not you.

I'm giving my opinion based on what I see on the TV, in the debates etc., and using some common sense. 

But because my opinion upsets you you've decided I use dark web sources. Are you DT in disguise ????

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Just now, CG1 Blue said:

I'm giving my opinion based on what I see on the TV, in the debates etc., and using some common sense. 

But because my opinion upsets you you've decided I use dark web sources. Are you DT in disguise ????

So it's your opinion about what you see on TV and using common sense? If you say so.

And now that you have learned of the evaluation of Trump and Biden by 6 gerontologists, what does your common sense tell you?

 

[CorpusChristie]

8 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

Trump's not the only Republican refusing to accept the result:

 

"Republican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, of Wisconsin, said Friday that half the country will not accept the outcome of the presidential election if Democrat Joe Biden wins.

Johnson, a staunch supporter of President Donald Trump, also refused to say if he thought the election was legitimate, while admitting he had no proof of any illegal activity...

...“I’m not alleging anything because I have no proof,” Johnson said. “All I’m saying is there are enough irregularities to raise concerns"."

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/pennsylvania/articles/2020-11-06/sen-johnson-says-half-of-country-wont-accept-a-biden-win

 

  Although he didnt actually say that he wouldnt accept the result.................

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Although he didnt actually say that he wouldnt accept the result.................

What he says on the matter is irrelevant.

 

It is what it is.

[CorpusChristie]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What he says on the matter is irrelevant.

 

It is what it is.

 

   Just correcting ballpoints statement that Ron Johnson wouldnt accept the result

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   Just correcting ballpoints statement that Ron Johnson wouldnt accept the result

The result.... is what it is.

[CorpusChristie]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The result.... is what it is.

 

  That is correct , excellent observation from yourself .

I do love a philosophical  Sunday myself as well 

[anchadian]

Continued....

Edited November 8, 2020 by anchadian

[anchadian]

Donald J. Trump Replying to

@realDonaldTrump

 

“We should look at the votes. We’re just beginning the tabulation stage. We should look at these allegations. We’re seeing a number of affidavits that there has been voter fraud. We have a history in this country of election problems. In Pennsylvania you had an order by a...

 

....Supreme Court Justice to compel them to separate ballots that were received after the legislative deadline. It required the intervention of Justice Alito. That’s a large group of ballots. When you talk about systemic problems, it’s about...

 

..how these ballots were authenticated, because if there’s a problem in the system about authentication, that would seriously affect the ENTIRE ELECTION - And what concerns me is that we had over a hundred million mail-in ballot in cites like Philladelphia...

 

...and Detroit with a long series of election problems (to put it mildly).”

 

“We believe these people are thieves. The big city machines are corrupt. This was a stolen election. Best pollster in Britain wrote this morning that this clearly was a stolen election, that it’s impossible to imagine that Biden outran Obama in some of these states.

Edited November 8, 2020 by anchadian

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1 minute ago, anchadian said:

Donald J. Trump Replying to

@realDonaldTrump

 

“We should look at the votes. We’re just beginning the tabulation stage. We should look at these allegations. We’re seeing a number of affidavits that there has been voter fraud. We have a history in this country of election problems. In Pennsylvania you had an order by a...

 

....Supreme Court Justice to compel them to separate ballots that were received after the legislative deadline. It required the intervention of Justice Alito. That’s a large group of ballots. When you talk about systemic problems, it’s about...

 

..how these ballots were authenticated, because if there’s a problem in the system about authentication, that would seriously affect the ENTIRE ELECTION - And what concerns me is that we had over a hundred million mail-in ballot in cites like Philladelphia...

 

...and Detroit with a long series of election problems (to put it mildly).”

Justice Alito's order had nothing to do with how the ballots were authenticated. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.  It was a question of deadlines and whether the PA supreme court could overrule the legislation on the matter give the current circumstances. 

 

Detroit's electoral problems, such as they were in this election period. were due to there not being enough workers to count ballots in the primaries. Nothing to do with fraud. And they addressed that worker shortage.

 

After botching past elections, Detroit aims to avoid a 'black eye' in November
Detroit is recruiting and training thousands of election workers in hopes of getting it right — and ensuring every vote counts — when the presidency is at stake.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/after-botching-past-elections-detroit-aims-avoid-black-eye-november-n1243920

 

[evadgib]

TBH this is looking worse than Bush/Gore but is far from over just yet, or as we Brits say "The Fat Lady has yet to reach for the Listerine" ????.

Good luck ????????, I hope Trump prevails.

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4 minutes ago, evadgib said:

TBH this is looking worse than Bush/Gore but is far from over just yet,

Dream on. No government authorities have reported fraud or investigations of fraud. None. Just complaints from Trump partisans.

[teacherclaire]

On 11/4/2020 at 5:15 PM, Maestro said:

 

Frankly, we did win this election. The end of a liar. 

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Dream on. No government authorities have reported fraud or investigations of fraud. None. Just complaints from Trump partisans.

Shouldn't that end in 'yet'?

 

[Susco]

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

TBH this is looking worse than Bush/Gore but is far from over just ye

 

Yes Bush/Gore was resolved with dignity from both sides, a word the loser in chief has never heard about

[jcsmith]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Dream on. No government authorities have reported fraud or investigations of fraud. None. Just complaints from Trump partisans.

 

Add to that multiple of these cases have already gone to court and been rejected as baseless. Trump has been setting up this fraud stuff for months. From all the claims of voter fraud, and specifically mail in voter fraud, to him declaring premature victory. His strategy has been known for months. 
 

[cdemundo]

I am tempted to refer to Trump as a scumbag, however I have to admit doing that would be an insult to scumbags everywhere.

[cdemundo]

25 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Shouldn't that end in 'yet'?

 

Sure, put "yet" on the end. But if you want to accept reality and get on with your life...

[Opl]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Dream on. No government authorities have reported fraud or investigations of fraud. None. Just complaints from Trump partisans.

[cdemundo]

1 minute ago, Opl said:

that is a nice-looking dog!

 

[CG1 Blue]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

So it's your opinion about what you see on TV and using common sense? If you say so.

And now that you have learned of the evaluation of Trump and Biden by 6 gerontologists, what does your common sense tell you?

 

Those studies say Biden is likely to survive a 4 year term based on his current state of health. Who knows what impact the stress of running the country will have on his physical and mental health. Heads of state do tend to age more quickly, which is hardly surprising. Hopefully he'll be fine. I don't wish ill health on anyone, but we have to face reality. 

 

Do heads of government age more quickly?

https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h6424

Conclusions Election to head of government is associated with a substantial increase in mortality risk compared with candidates in national elections who never served.

 

 

 

[Credo]

6 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Those studies say Biden is likely to survive a 4 year term based on his current state of health. Who knows what impact the stress of running the country will have on his physical and mental health. Heads of state do tend to age more quickly, which is hardly surprising. Hopefully he'll be fine. I don't wish ill health on anyone, but we have to face reality. 

 

Do heads of government age more quickly?

https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h6424

Conclusions Election to head of government is associated with a substantial increase in mortality risk compared with candidates in national elections who never served.

Interesting.   So, losers live longer?

 

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3 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Those studies say Biden is likely to survive a 4 year term based on his current state of health. Who knows what impact the stress of running the country will have on his physical and mental health. Heads of state do tend to age more quickly, which is hardly surprising. Hopefully he'll be fine. I don't wish ill health on anyone, but we have to face reality. 

 

Do heads of government age more quickly?

https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h6424

Conclusions Election to head of government is associated with a substantial increase in mortality risk compared with candidates in national elections who never served.

 

 

 

Nice bit of doublethink here. Since the study I cited found that Trump was less healthy than Biden, what does that tell you about his chances of survival? Also, here's the result of a study done of American presidents:

https://www.history.com/news/do-u-s-presidents-age-faster-while-in-office

It comes to a different conclusion.

[MaxYakov]

.Opinion

 

There's a public media, insightful, one hour interview of Victor Davis Hanson on the 2020 election by Australia's Hon John Anderson OA. Use your favorite search engine to find it.

 

Opinion

[teacherclaire]

4 hours ago, Credo said:

Interesting.   So, losers live longer?

 

  That's interesting. The sore loser might live long, hopefully behind bars.

 

    The hoax man deserves it. 

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

10 hours ago, ballpoint said:

Republican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, of Wisconsin, said Friday that half the country will not accept the outcome

I didn’t like Hillary, but over half the country had to cry, grit their teeth, and accept she wasn’t the winner either.

 

Trump then had four years to convince just a small percentage of these people, enough to push him over the threshold for a second term, that he could do the job just as well. Four years of trash talking tweets and big promises later, he did not.

 

He said he’d bring the factories back. It’s no wonder he lost Wisconsin. Look up what happened with the Foxconn plant there, which is mostly still a huge empty lot. It’s no wonder he lost NV, with tens of thousands of unemployed casino workers who might still have jobs, had there been a better Covid response. It’s no wonder it looks like he’ll lose GA, with their substantial black population, and his rather unsympathetic reaction toward BLM.

 

Look up the article on The Thaiger about what he’s up to now, tweeting about contesting the fraudulent results. Is he in the office mobilizing his team, on the phone with officials and lawyers, dispatching them to the election offices? No, he’s on the golf course again, another of the major issues with his tenure.

 

I see several social media posts from Trump supporters with supposedly hidden cam videos of election workers tossing ballots in the trash, and people fishing them out of dumpsters. These surely would be bombshells if true. So far, none of them have been substantiated. Why do they feel the need to make and post these fake videos?

 

I suppose he could’ve been a worse president. I suppose he did stuff well enough to have gained quite a few supporters. But not quite enough. It’s over.