Ipsos/Reuters polls told us 10 times in last 4 6 months that biden will win Florida and Texas, and that blue wave is coming. Only fools trust to them.

Nobody , not biden or trump should declare victory while votes are STILL counted, while at least one state doing recounts and 5 more are in lawsuits now for over 250k votes that come AFTER election date. 

Media-elect biden is in my opinion rushing to declare himself now, since he knows that there is no chance of win if 20% of fraud lawsuits are true and and all goes to trump controled supreme court. Well he don't know anything, his handlers do.

 

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Just because Trump did something, does it mean Biden should? Strange logic. 

That was not my point but you know that. Biden declared when the numbers were in to support that claim, numbers that told us all there is no way trump can win. This is how it's done in every election (which you conveniently forget in your furor to post as many lame diversions as possible)

1 minute ago, Appu said:

Ipsos/Reuters polls told us 10 times in last 4 6 months that biden will win Florida and Texas, and that blue wave is coming. Only fools trust to them.

Exactly.

2 minutes ago, Barnabe said:

You mean the same polls that said that the Biden would win by a large margin and crush Trump?

Yeaaaaaah I don't think I will be trusting any "polls" anytime soon.

Yes sure but it is not the polls that decide,it is the votes.And they did.

5 minutes ago, Barnabe said:

Doubtful though, electoral fraud at this scale seems impossible?

Yes seems impossible and all under the watchful eye of the greatest president ever?lol.

Just now, Neeranam said:

Exactly.

We don't need the polls, we've just had an election where President-Elect Biden crushed trump, an incumbent "president" no less.

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Absolutely. I think they have a problem changing the laws that their forefathers made. 

Didn't the Forefathers make a law that Foremothers could not vote?  LOL

3 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

We don't need the polls, we've just had an election where President-Elect Biden crushed trump, an incumbent "president" no less.

Has there been a case of a candidate beating a 'non-incumbent' president?

3 minutes ago, jvs said:

Yes sure but it is not the polls that decide,it is the votes.And they did.

 

OP is talking about a poll where "80%" of voters say the election has been decided. And the media called the election too, rushing to coronate Biden.

The media don't get to choose the president, the voters do. Let the claims be investigated. It will give a clean victory to Biden and Trump won't have a leg to stand on.

 

Trump was investigated for 4 years for the supposed Russia collusion, but now we can't spend a couple of months investigating fraud reports?

A bunch of posts containing links to highly dubious and misleading sites have been removed, along with multiple replies.

Please take a moment to check if the link you want to post has any credibility whatsoever before posting it.

Sites rated as factually lacking, purveyors of pseudo conspiracy etc are not offering evidence.

A deluded opinion I remind you, is not necessarily factually correct.

And that goes for both sides of this argument.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

A large number of posts have been removed:

 

posts with links to non authoritative sources (note forum rule 18: "Social Media content is not to be used as  source material unless it is from a recognized or approved news media source, "

 

• posts with profanity
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Please keep it civil and coherent and refrain from posting clips or links to social media and fringe/conspiracy websites.

Well the titel is also fake, 80% of americans say Biden won...what a load of nonsense ....and if i show news websites with 500.000 viewers it gets removed of being conspiray theory? The titel of this thread is a conspiracy theory and i'm done with it.

What's wrong with the other 20 percent?

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Terrible Biden declaring himself president before the count has finished. This is certainly dividing the country and showing his arrogance. 

Errr- Trump declared victory LAST WEDNESDAY Thai time. Voting hadn't even finished in the US. Pot, kettle, black.

4 minutes ago, Psimbo said:

Errr- Trump declared victory LAST WEDNESDAY Thai time. Voting hadn't even finished in the US. Pot, kettle, black.

Err, I wasn't talking about Trump. I am not a pot.

8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Err, I wasn't talking about Trump. I am not a pot.

No, you always conveniently leave trump out of it even though he has done what you (wrongly) accuse President-Elect Biden of doing. That definitively makes you a pot, and a very black one at that.

3 hours ago, KarenBravo said:

.......and the Republicans accused the Democrats of "not accepting" the 2016 election result.

You don't hear that so much anymore.

And some of those margins were even tighter than the ones we are seeing now.

19 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

No, you always conveniently leave trump out of it even though he has done what you (wrongly) accuse President-Elect Biden of doing. That definitively makes you a pot, and a very black one at that.

This has nothing to do with Trump. Why do you polarise everything? I dislike Trump and many things he does. 

The kettle is black, regardless of the pot, which I'm not, full stop! 

everything in life is rigged...

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Nearly 80% of Americans say

Nearly 150 million people voted--Reuters runs a phone poll of just over a 1,000 people and the headline is 80% of all Americans say---

 

I am not disputing who won the election--- just that I think I have had enough of pollsters for life. 

The word concede isn't in Trump's vocabulary. ???? 

5 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

The word concede isn't in Trump's vocabulary. ???? 

And you evidently thinking that's a good thing really says it all.

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The Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud

The president and his allies have baselessly claimed that rampant voter fraud stole victory from him. Officials contacted by The Times said that there were no irregularities that affected the outcome.
 

PHILADELPHIA — Election officials in dozens of states representing both political parties said that there was no evidence that fraud or other irregularities played a role in the outcome of the presidential race, amounting to a forceful rebuke of President Trump’s portrait of a fraudulent election.
 

Over the last several days, the president, members of his administration, congressional Republicans and right wing allies have put forth the false claim that the election was stolen from Mr. Trump and have refused to accept results that showed Joseph R. Biden Jr. as the winner.
 

But top election officials across the country said in interviews and statements that the process had been a remarkable success despite record turnout and the complications of a dangerous pandemic.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/us/politics/voting-fraud.html

 

What's also sadly alarming, if you read down into the guts of the full article, is discussion about widespread efforts by Republican lawmakers across the country to basically delegitimize/nullify the election results... attacking election officials even of their own (Republican) party along with Democrat officials who found no fraud.

 

This isn't just a Trump thing, at this point. A significant segment of the Republican party is going along for the lunatic ride... and it's a serious danger to the U.S. democracy and elections system.

 

 

Anyone remember when Hillary called Donald to congratulate him on winning election on election night?

And he replied "No, no Hillary. I can't accept that until all the votes are counted and EC declares I won. To do anything less would be a travesty of the democratic process."

If you do remember, seek psychiatric help. You aren't in reality, like  Trump and most of Republican federal officials

 

58 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

The word concede isn't in Trump's vocabulary. ???? 

Many complex and significant words aren't in Trump's vocabulary.

17 minutes ago, Emdog said:

Anyone remember when Hillary called Donald to congratulate him on winning election on election night?

And he replied "No, no Hillary. I can't accept that until all the votes are counted and EC declares I won. To do anything less would be a travesty of the democratic process."

If you do remember, seek psychiatric help. You aren't in reality, like  Trump and most of Republican federal officials

 

It was not Trump but John Podesta campaign chairman who said that. Trump has never ever been graceful in victory or defeat.

4 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Terrible Biden declaring himself president before the count has finished. This is certainly dividing the country and showing his arrogance. 

He has won. Even if Trump gets all the college votes in the states still counting he still wont win

1 hour ago, Boon Mee said:

The word concede isn't in Trump's vocabulary. ???? 

No doubt he has a limited vocabulary. He’s limited in many ways. 

46 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Many complex and significant words aren't in Trump's vocabulary.

Such as meretricious and mendacious. Debt he knows very well.

when the lawsuits have all been serviced and any recounts requiring only legally properly verified votes are finished then perhaps the  country will have a president.