webfact Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Biden cements victory by flipping Arizona, as Trump keeps transition in limbo By Joseph Ax FILE PHOTO: People gather as they celebrate media announcing that Democratic U.S. presidential nominee Joe Biden has won the 2020 U.S. presidential election, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S., November 7, 2020. REUTERS/Rachel Wisniewski (Reuters) - President-elect Joe Biden cemented his electoral victory by capturing the battleground state of Arizona late on Thursday, but the transition to his administration remains in political stasis as President Donald Trump refuses to accept defeat. Biden was projected to win Arizona after more than a week of vote counting, Edison Research said. He becomes only the second Democratic presidential candidate in seven decades to win the traditionally Republican state. Biden's win in Arizona gives the Democrat 290 electoral votes in the state-by-state Electoral College that determines the winner, more than the 270 needed to claim victory. Biden is also winning the popular vote by more than 5.3 million votes, or 3.4 percentage points. With only a few states still counting votes, the electoral math is daunting for Trump, who has claimed without evidence that the election was marred by widespread fraud. In order to erase Biden's advantage, Trump, a Republican, would have to overtake the Democrat's lead in at least three of the competitive swing states. The Trump campaign has filed lawsuits challenging the vote counts in numerous states, although some have already been thrown out by judges. Legal experts have said the litigation stands little chance of altering the outcome, and state election officials have said they see no evidence of serious irregularities or fraud. Trump's refusal to accept the result of the Nov. 3 election has stalled the process of transitioning to a new administration. The federal agency that normally would release funding to an incoming president-elect, the General Services Administration, has not yet recognized Biden as the winner. His pick for White House chief of staff, Ron Klain, told MSNBC on Thursday that receiving transition funding is important given the U.S. government will roll out a coronavirus vaccination campaign early next year. "The sooner we can get our transition experts into meetings with the folks who are planning a vaccination campaign, the more seamless the transition to a Biden presidency from a Trump presidency can be," Klain said. Biden was set to meet with transition advisers again on Friday as he maps out his approach to the pandemic and prepares to name his top appointees, including cabinet members. BRIEFINGS FOR BIDEN Most Republicans have publicly endorsed Trump's right to pursue court challenges and declined to recognize Biden as the winner. But more signs of dissension began emerging on Thursday. Party figures such as Ohio Governor Mike DeWine, New Hampshire Governor Chris Sununu and Karl Rove, a top adviser to former President George W. Bush, said Biden should be treated as the president-elect. Meanwhile, a number of Republican senators said the Trump administration should allow Biden to receive classified intelligence briefings, though they stopped short of explicitly calling him the winner. The incoming commander-in-chief is typically given the briefings to ensure national security is not compromised during the transition. "I don't see it as a high-risk proposition. I just think it's part of the transition. And, if in fact he does win in the end, I think they need to be able to hit the ground running," Senator John Cornyn told reporters. The top House Republican, Kevin McCarthy, opposed the idea, suggesting Trump could still prevail. "He's not president right now," McCarthy said of Biden. "I don't know if he'll be president January 20th." Democrats have assailed Trump, and the Republicans giving him cover, for undermining the country's institutions. In an interview that will air on CBS' "60 Minutes" on Sunday, former President Barack Obama said Republicans were walking a "dangerous path" by endorsing Trump's baseless claims of voter fraud. Biden has taken a measured approach, saying this week he viewed Trump's claims as "embarrassing" but insisting he was not worried about the impact on his transition to the White House. His legal advisers have dismissed the Trump lawsuits as political theater. The top Democrats in Congress, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, on Thursday called on Republicans to accept Biden's victory and work on crafting a relief package to address the effects of the pandemic, which has killed more than 241,000 in the United States. A number of states and cities have begun implementing fresh public activity restrictions in the face of a huge nationwide resurgence in cases. (Reporting by Joseph Ax in Princeton, New Jersey; editing by Ross Colvin and Lincoln Feast) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-11-13 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justgrazing Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, webfact said: (Reuters) - President-elect Joe Biden cemented his electoral victory by capturing the battleground state of Arizona late on Thursday, but the transition to his administration remains in political stasis as President Donald Trump refuses to accept defeat. Dictionaries in future when including bad and loser should also say " see D Trump " .. for he is the epitome of one .. 26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 The vot 21 minutes ago, webfact said: Trump's refusal to accept the result of the Nov. 3 election has stalled the process of transitioning to a new administration. The federal agency that normally would release funding to an incoming president-elect, the General Services Administration, has not yet recognized Biden as the winner. Why would the GSA not recognize biden! Correct me if I'm wrong ! The vote in AZ hasn't been certified! 10 10 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, riclag said: The vot Why would the GSA not recognize biden! Correct me if I'm wrong ! The vote in AZ hasn't been certified! It's not necessary for the votes to be certified. It certainly hasn't been the case in the past with the exception of Bush Gore which is a very different case. 15 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, riclag said: The vot Why would the GSA not recognize biden! Correct me if I'm wrong ! The vote in AZ hasn't been certified! Because they're headed by a partisan hack. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, riclag said: The vot Why would the GSA not recognize biden! Correct me if I'm wrong ! The vote in AZ hasn't been certified! They recognized and let trump do it without it being certified. Its called a smooth transition of power. Even if biden loses, its the moral, right thing to do to ensure national securiry. Or arent you a patriot. 10 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just now, Sujo said: They recognized and let trump do it without it being certified. Its called a smooth transition of power. Even if biden loses, its the moral, right thing to do to ensure national securiry. Or arent you a patriot. Why humor people that refuse to accept numbers? There is no doubt that Joe Biden is president elect. 20 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fangless Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, riclag said: The vote in AZ hasn't been certified! Neither has Trump but he should be! 7 2 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, webfact said: Trump's refusal to accept the result of the Nov. 3 election is symptomatic of his narsasitic inability to accept he has failed, has been rejected and that he lost. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, riclag said: The vot Why would the GSA not recognize biden! Correct me if I'm wrong ! The vote in AZ hasn't been certified! Thanks for asking. You're wrong. Certification is not relevant. Probability is. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExpatOK Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, riclag said: The vot Why would the GSA not recognize biden! Correct me if I'm wrong ! The vote in AZ hasn't been certified! Exactly! The vote in AZ has NOT been certified. A group called Edison Research has called the state. From the OP: "Biden was projected to win Arizona after more than a week of vote counting, Edison Research said." Looking through the Constitution, Edison Research is not even mentioned! Sorry, but their opinion isn't worth a hill of beans. Nothing has changed. 12th amendment here we come. 5 4 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Throatwobbler Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, riclag said: The vot Why would the GSA not recognize biden! Correct me if I'm wrong ! The vote in AZ hasn't been certified! Trump lost. Deal with it. 11 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ExpatOK said: Exactly! The vote in AZ has NOT been certified. A group called Edison Research has called the state. From the OP: "Biden was projected to win Arizona after more than a week of vote counting, Edison Research said." Looking through the Constitution, Edison Research is not even mentioned! Sorry, but their opinion isn't worth a hill of beans. Nothing has changed. 12th amendment here we come. Arizona is done and dusted. Not.enough counts left for trump to win. Get over it. State news at fox also called it for biden Edited November 13, 2020 by Sujo 13 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Throatwobbler Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, ExpatOK said: Exactly! The vote in AZ has NOT been certified. A group called Edison Research has called the state. From the OP: "Biden was projected to win Arizona after more than a week of vote counting, Edison Research said." Looking through the Constitution, Edison Research is not even mentioned! Sorry, but their opinion isn't worth a hill of beans. Nothing has changed. 12th amendment here we come. This is the way it has always been done but for some reason the Trump disciples think their messiah should be treated differently. The simple fact is that Trump and his followers are making themselves look like a bunch of cry babies. standing their screaming hoping that someone pays notice to them. Trump lost big time. The sooner you accept that the better. 15 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post onthedarkside Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 A derogatory name calling post has been removed, along with several replies. Also a non-news-entity social media video post and a similar conspiracy video social media post that both violate the following forum rule: Quote 18) Social Media content is not to be used as source material unless it is from a recognized or approved news media source, the source of any such material (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube etc.) should always be shown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExpatOK Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, Throatwobbler said: Trump lost. Deal with it. 38 minutes ago, Sujo said: Arizona is done and dusted. Not.enough counts left for trump to win. Get over it. State news at fox also called it for biden 35 minutes ago, Throatwobbler said: This is the way it has always been done but for some reason the Trump disciples think their messiah should be treated differently. The simple fact is that Trump and his followers are making themselves look like a bunch of cry babies. standing their screaming hoping that someone pays notice to them. Trump lost big time. The sooner you accept that the better. Guys, next election have your candidate read the Constitution. 3 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ExpatOK said: Guys, next election have your candidate read the Constitution. If you think that the Constitution has some specific bearing on this issue, then it's clear you haven't read the Constitution. Edited November 13, 2020 by placeholder 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Throatwobbler Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, ExpatOK said: Guys, next election have your candidate read the Constitution. Sorry I forgot that Trump waited for all the states to declare their final results before claiming the presidency. 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, ExpatOK said: Guys, next election have your candidate read the Constitution. Now that would cause a problem for trump should he ever consider running again. That and the fact that he would be running from a jail cell, of course. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) Meghan McCain just couldn't resist!???? Meghan McCain Uses Trump's Trolling Against Him After He Loses Arizona Edited November 13, 2020 by Phoenix Rising 7 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Bluespunk said: is symptomatic of his narsasitic inability to accept he has failed, has been rejected and that he lost. Strange that really, because he's had enough practice of being a loser, what with all of his bankruptcies, failed companies, hush money payments to hookers, and the fact he was found guilty of stealing $2.1 million collected for charities to pay for his campaign expenses – – – plenty of practice to be had there! 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChouDoufu Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 3 hours ago, webfact said: (Reuters) - President-elect Joe Biden cemented his electoral victory by capturing the battleground state of Arizona late on Thursday, but the transition to his administration remains in political stasis as President Donald Trump refuses to accept defeat. to be fair, the current-soon-to-be-former president is very, very, very busy. why just this morning, following the deaths of 1893 loser americans in a single day, trump took time out of his busy, busy schedule to tweet a twoot to scott baio, thanking him for tweeting about a candle display at a craft store! priorities! they are what they are! Trump tweets while ignoring duties of his office https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trump-tweets-while-ignoring-duties-of-his-o-ce-15723674.php Scott Baio Receives Shoutout From President, Scorn From Twitter Over Pic Of Trump Candle Display https://etcanada.com/news/713184/scott-baio-receives-shoutout-from-president-scorn-from-twitter-over-pic-of-trump-candle-display/ 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post ChouDoufu Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 hours ago, ExpatOK said: Exactly! The vote in AZ has NOT been certified. A group called Edison Research has called the state. From the OP: "Biden was projected to win Arizona after more than a week of vote counting, Edison Research said." Looking through the Constitution, Edison Research is not even mentioned! Sorry, but their opinion isn't worth a hill of beans. Nothing has changed. 12th amendment here we come. 12th? methinks thou doth meaneth the 25th. of course that will require that trump first be "certified," something we can all agree is "the right thing to do." https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxv 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PattayaJames Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said: 12th? methinks thou doth meaneth the 25th. of course that will require that trump first be "certified," something we can all agree is "the right thing to do." You do NOT speak for all. In fact probably just a tiny percentage of sad muppets. 3 6 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: You do NOT speak for all. In fact probably just a tiny percentage of sad muppets. Wanting a president that actually does the job in the middle of a pandemic that is trending to be even worse than the 1918 flu is hardly sad or muppetlike. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChouDoufu Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: You do NOT speak for all. In fact probably just a tiny percentage of sad muppets. trump and supporters claim he won the election, demand he be certified. biden's supporters think a man who denies reality is certifiable. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/certifiable so, you see, something we can all agree on! 25th amendment here we come! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 hours ago, ExpatOK said: Guys, next election have your candidate read the Constitution. And have your candidate defend it. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: You do NOT speak for all. In fact probably just a tiny percentage of sad muppets. There, there, calm down. No need to get your titties all in a twist just because trump suffered such a humiliating defeat. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post katatonic Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, ExpatOK said: Guys, next election have your candidate read the Constitution. Not my candidate (not American) but that is hardly relevant. Trump is political history. Edited November 13, 2020 by katatonic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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