Pennsylvania Judge Halts Further Vote Certification Steps

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Pennsylvania Judge Halts Further Vote Certification Steps

Bloomberg Law

 

 

A Pennsylvania judge issued an order preventing the state from taking additional steps to certify its election results until she holds a hearing on Friday morning.

 

The ruling on Wednesday by Commonwealth Court Judge Patricia McCullough in Pittsburgh halts the process “to the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results of the 2020 General Election.” Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar certified President-elect Joe Biden’s 80,555-vote Pennsylvania victory yesterday, and Governor Tom Wolf appointed electors for the state. Boockvar and Wolf are both Democrats.

 

The case before McCullough is separate from the federal lawsuit by President Donald Trump’s campaign that seeks to undo Pennsylvania’s certification unless it tosses out tens of thousands of mail-in ballots the suit alleges are illegal. The state case was brought by Pennsylvania Republicans led by U.S. Representative Mike Kelly, who sought to derail certification by arguing that the state’s expansion of mail-in voting was illegal.

 

Full story: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/pennsylvania-judge-blocks-further-election-certification-steps

 

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[candide]

It could not be invented! ????

"The irony here is that Rep. Kelly won his election against Democratic nominee Kristy Gnibus, and is thereby seeking to prevent his own win from being certified."

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/judge-presiding-over-bonkers-election-lawsuit-blocks-whatever-hasnt-been-certified-of-bidens-certified-pa-victory/

[ding]

I can hear the fat lady warming up backstage...

[Tug]

It’s not gonna stand the people won’t let trump subvert the vote imo

[Tippaporn]

I've said it from the beginning.  Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

I've said it from the beginning.  Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Nobody’s counting ‘chickens’ it’s votes and Biden has millions more votes and more than enough electoral votes.

 

 

[canuckamuck]

I see a can of worms and an opener. What will happen?

[Tippaporn]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nobody’s counting ‘chickens’ it’s votes and Biden has millions more votes and more than enough electoral votes.

I'm watching the hearing now (it was live streamed).  I've heard some interesting teasers so maybe I'll be back with some highlights (it's almost 4 hours).  The question now, at least in my mind, is if Trump succeeds in PA what happens to other states?

[stevenl]

15 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

I see a can of worms and an opener. What will happen?

Nothing.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, candide said:

It could not be invented! ????

"The irony here is that Rep. Kelly won his election against Democratic nominee Kristy Gnibus, and is thereby seeking to prevent his own win from being certified."

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/judge-presiding-over-bonkers-election-lawsuit-blocks-whatever-hasnt-been-certified-of-bidens-certified-pa-victory/

Perhaps Mr. Kelly should be certified, but not for Congress.

It's a pandemic. People are expected to turn up at polling booths to get themselves infected?

[tonray]

Trump is simply extending this as long as he can...just as he did with his business bankruptcies...so he can bilk more people out of money. By stopping payments on his casino debts, he forced the banks to either  lose everything (the casinos were worthless basically) or settle for far less than owed. By extending the election drama..he continues to milk people for contributions which will go mainly to pay his personal and campaign debts or be used for a 2024 run. Suckers....let them get bilked...eventually some of them will figure  it out.

[Lacessit]

42 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

I see a can of worms and an opener. What will happen?

Isn't it marvelous to witness a triumph of hope over experience, Trump lovers thinking there is a residue of redemption for their fallen idol. Dream on.

[henry2109]

45 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

I see a can of worms and an opener. What will happen?

Actually, it is pretty clear what will happen: The case will be dismissed, as all the other cases before. Why? Because the election has been held in a fair and transparent way (as it is possible) and the staff and helpers have done a good job. There is no evidence of widespread fraud or misconduction. So there is no reason not to certify the election result.

 

The delay to certify the results for 4 day is all the losers can do. It may even go on to the next court level. It's a shame, but the final outcome is inevitable.

[henry2109]

16 minutes ago, tonray said:

Trump is simply extending this as long as he can...just as he did with his business bankruptcies...so he can bilk more people out of money. By stopping payments on his casino debts, he forced the banks to either  lose everything (the casinos were worthless basically) or settle for far less than owed. By extending the election drama..he continues to milk people for contributions which will go mainly to pay his personal and campaign debts or be used for a 2024 run. Suckers....let them get bilked...eventually some of them will figure  it out.

+ 1

yes, some will figure it out, but only a few. A majority seems to be so deluded, it's perplexing to see.

[Slip]

I don't really get this.  If "Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar certified President-elect Joe Biden’s 80,555-vote Pennsylvania victory yesterday" what does "halts the process to the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results of the 2020 General Election" even mean?  How can there be any further action to halt something that has already happened?

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, ding said:

I can hear the fat lady warming up backstage...

The "fat lady" may be warming up backstage, but she has a variety of songs in her portfolio, not all to the liking of the fat (orange) man!

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, canuckamuck said:

I see a can of worms and an opener. What will happen?

 

57 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Nothing.

The judge must have her 5 minutes of fame.

 

I almost feel sorry for her. She is apparently a confirmed Republican so the pressure on her must be immense. She cannot but be aware that if she rules against certification, it will almost certainly be overturned in higher courts, and any career expectations will be dashed. On the other hand if she rules to  allow certification she will be " Billy no mates" in her gang!

[Bluespunk]

3 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

I've said it from the beginning.  Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

They hatched a long time ago. 
 

trump lost. 

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

I'm watching the hearing now (it was live streamed).  I've heard some interesting teasers so maybe I'll be back with some highlights (it's almost 4 hours).  The question now, at least in my mind, is if Trump succeeds in PA what happens to other states?

Not a problem as trump won’t succeed in PA.

 

Now if you’ll excuse me I have some chickens to count. 

[Susco]

3 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

I've said it from the beginning.  Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

 

I guess you said that to the guy who declared victory on November 4?

[wavodavo]

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

The "fat lady" may be warming up backstage, but she has a variety of songs in her portfolio, not all to the liking of the fat (orange) man!

GO Trump. justice must be done !!! No matter what the result ..if the voting was crooked it has got to be exposed to stop it happening again in future.

[Sujo]

It is obvious trump supporters have no idea what has happened.

 

the presidential race has been certified. Biden has won.

 

this judge suspended certification of things that has not been certified, which is the state legislator and congress certification, which was won by republicans.

 

So republicans have stopped certification of their own victory, by complaining about the system that they voted to approve.

 

This has nothing to do with the presidential votes.

[Sujo]

2 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

I'm watching the hearing now (it was live streamed).  I've heard some interesting teasers so maybe I'll be back with some highlights (it's almost 4 hours).  The question now, at least in my mind, is if Trump succeeds in PA what happens to other states?

This is not about the presidential votes. Its a case by republicans against themselves, the congress and state legislators. They have brought a claim against themselves.

[herfiehandbag]

27 minutes ago, wavodavo said:

GO Trump. justice must be done !!! No matter what the result ..if the voting was crooked it has got to be exposed to stop it happening again in future.

I completely agree, he should go!

 

Justice has been done, The United States held an election. Mr Trump lost, by what he himself described 4 years ago as a landslide.

 

"GO Trump"!

Edited November 26, 2020 by herfiehandbag

[placeholder]

3 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

I'm watching the hearing now (it was live streamed).  I've heard some interesting teasers so maybe I'll be back with some highlights (it's almost 4 hours).  The question now, at least in my mind, is if Trump succeeds in PA what happens to other states?

And I've got some news for you: the Pennsylvania Supreme Court put a stay on Judge McCullough's order.

[pkspeaker]

42 minutes ago, Sujo said:

It is obvious trump supporters have no idea what has happened.

 

the presidential race has been certified. Biden has won.

 

this judge suspended certification of things that has not been certified, which is the state legislator and congress certification, which was won by republicans.

 

So republicans have stopped certification of their own victory, by complaining about the system that they voted to approve.

 

This has nothing to do with the presidential votes.

The legalities of that are uncertain-you don't know that a certified states electors cannot be reversed by the supreme court, we are all waiting and seeing.. people think in america you win the vote count and it's over..  the Jan 6 election process is ambiguous .. if there is a contested election a few senators and congressmen can throw the house into a caucus..

 

congress shall meet on Jan the 6 the president of the senate shall presid over congress, the states shall report the certified electoral college results however if congressmen and senators object to any states then there is a vote to accept or reject.. it goes from there..you can do your own research..

[Jingthing]

Good money spinner for Mr. Trump. 

Pennsylvania's presidential election results have already been certified. 

President Elect Biden won.

It wasn't even close.

[Sujo]

13 minutes ago, pkspeaker said:

The legalities of that are uncertain-you don't know that a certified states electors cannot be reversed by the supreme court, we are all waiting and seeing.. people think in america you win the vote count and it's over..  the Jan 6 election process is ambiguous .. if there is a contested election a few senators and congressmen can throw the house into a caucus..

 

congress shall meet on Jan the 6 the president of the senate shall presid over congress, the states shall report the certified electoral college results however if congressmen and senators object to any states then there is a vote to accept or reject.. it goes from there..you can do your own research..

There is nothing to be reversed. The judge is considering issues on uncertified results. Thats the congress and state legislators.

 

This hearing is not about the presidential race.

[Eric Loh]

The state Supreme Court has twice this month overturned Republican election challenges. Will be the same this time. Keep dreaming Trumpsters. 

[Scott Tracy]

Democracy in action. Pah.

 

This is so much fun to an outsider. You couldn't make it up.