Arthritis

[Neeranam]

33 minutes ago, kokopelli said:

There are two types of arthritis, Rheumatoid and Osteoarthritis. If osteoarthritis, a simple X Ray will show if you have it. Osteoarthritis is a wearing down of the cartilage between the bones of the shoulder joint.

Sometimes cortisone injections do relieve the pain for  months at a time.

Either you live with it or eventually get a shoulder joint replacement. I live with it!

There are also a number of other causes for shoulder pain and only a doctor can determine the cause.

Actually, my mother is booked for a shoulder replacement. She recently got her knee done. 

[xylophone]

11 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

Yes, because that is a very simple task... you can probably open a door equally as well too... but try writing and see if it is comfortable... and there are ambidextrous people too... 

Hmmmm....Never thought of myself as amphibious. LOL 

 

Seriously though, I absolutely cannot write with my left hand, nor do anything with it and even opening a door is strange, so I was quite amazed that I was able to use the mouse with my left hand, and operate the left and right clicks, and now if I switch to the right hand for some reason, even that seems strange!

 

Probably all about training the side of the brain which controls that, because even though as I said previously I was absolutely right-footed as a footballer, and playing at a good level/standard, but as I got older I learnt to kick with my left foot and although it wasn't a spectacular event, it was good enough to get me by.

 

Probably a learnt event?

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, whaleboneman said:

When I worked I used a cordless laser mouse on my leg rather than on the desk. It seemed a more normal position for long sessions. I also switch left and right whenever one feels tired.

I'm looking at a vertical mouse. 

I actually need a lot of mouse and typing.

The problem, according to my physio is having a low chair and higher table, so my shoulder was always raised.

[ICELANDMAN]

2 hours ago, kenk24 said:

It is not a matter of choice - it is genetic... my father is left handed and both my brother and I are left handed... many years ago, they used to try an change some lefties to right handed, but I assume they have come to accept the genetic difference - about 10% of the population is left handed... 

 

for me, there was no choice. I could throw a ball with my left hand, not with my right... found this out very early in life. 

 

No one yet despite all the scientific studies understand everything the brain influences on the human body, it can be correct that it is also a genetic factor, however if by accident you lose the use of the hand that is usually used with many exercises and patience and It is possible to recover all the functions of the hand that has been imputed even if the process is not easy

 

[greenmonkey]

Hi OP,

 

not sure if its the same pain as I have experienced over the last 15 years or so but what I experience is excruciating pain in my left shoulder (I use my right had for mouse work - so not mouse related) when I lift my arm from the shoulder (but pain only kicks in at certain angles).

 

Anyway, I chanced upon a youtube video a few years ago that helped me so much. It was one simple stretching exercise. I was very skeptical but it did work and now when ever I get twinges I do this one exercise. I can't find the exact video but found this link that does show the same exercise (although a little too lethargic in my opinion - when I do it I really push hard and stretch hard). Please note, you shouldn't feel any pain when you do this exercise, if you do feel pain then best to stop and not do. I would also say that it usually takes a few days to see any improvement and usually a week before the pain goes altogether.

 

Hope this works for you.

 

 

 

[anterian]

Have you tried Glucosamine and chondroitin also collagen?

 

[ignis]

ibuprofen is a No No  if you have CKD.....  very bad for Kidneys if they are damaged, also ibuprofen not advised for Diabetics /people on Blood pressure Med's

[xylophone]

5 minutes ago, ignis said:

ibuprofen is a No No  if you have CKD.....  very bad for Kidneys if they are damaged, also ibuprofen not advised for Diabetics /people on Blood pressure Med's

Based on the research to date, it appears that naproxen (Aleve, Naprosyn, Anaprox) may be less risky than other NSAIDs.

[Thingamabob]

On 12/2/2020 at 1:03 PM, Neeranam said:

Seems I have got some of this in my shoulder; been painful for a few months, aggravated by RSI(using a mouse for work 10 hours a day sometimes).

Had a consultation with a physio in Australia who suggested it is mainly weak muscle aggravated by arthritis. All they could suggest is ibuprofen for reduction of inflammation and some exercises. They also suggested better posture by sitting on a large blow up ball! 

Contemplating going to see a specialist here in Thailand, does anyone know such a doctor/hospital?

Only painful when doing certain things, at certain angles. The physio got me lifting my right arm by a rod supported by left arm(good one) and there was no pain, which suggests muscular. Anyway, I'm not convinced if it is arthritis or not; is there any way I could find out for sure? I am 55 and exercise every day -  run 5 km and do yoga/tai chi. 

 

I have the same problem, and also wondered about arthritis. However, I now think it's a muscle strain which, hopefully, will heal with time.

[Neeranam]

3 hours ago, greenmonkey said:

Hi OP,

 

not sure if its the same pain as I have experienced over the last 15 years or so but what I experience is excruciating pain in my left shoulder (I use my right had for mouse work - so not mouse related) when I lift my arm from the shoulder (but pain only kicks in at certain angles).

 

Anyway, I chanced upon a youtube video a few years ago that helped me so much. It was one simple stretching exercise. I was very skeptical but it did work and now when ever I get twinges I do this one exercise. I can't find the exact video but found this link that does show the same exercise (although a little too lethargic in my opinion - when I do it I really push hard and stretch hard). Please note, you shouldn't feel any pain when you do this exercise, if you do feel pain then best to stop and not do. I would also say that it usually takes a few days to see any improvement and usually a week before the pain goes altogether.

 

Hope this works for you.

 

 

 

Thanks, much appreciated. I'll check it out. I have some videos that were sent by my physio in Australia but not done them yet. 

[kokopelli]

Regarding a doctor, if in Pattaya, I suggest Pratya Jaratjitwilai , M.D. at Bangkok-Pattaya Hospital. Dr. Pratya works in the Orthopedic Center and specializes in the shoulder surgery and sports medicine.

[1FinickyOne]

7 hours ago, xylophone said:

Probably all about training the side of the brain which controls that,

only left handed people are in their right mind... 

[bartender100]

Need to find out first what type you have, treatment is very different

 

https://www.healthline.com/health/arthritis-types

[billd766]

8 hours ago, kokopelli said:

There are two types of arthritis, Rheumatoid and Osteoarthritis. If osteoarthritis, a simple X Ray will show if you have it. Osteoarthritis is a wearing down of the cartilage between the bones of the shoulder joint.

Sometimes cortisone injections do relieve the pain for  months at a time.

Either you live with it or eventually get a shoulder joint replacement. I live with it!

There are also a number of other causes for shoulder pain and only a doctor can determine the cause.

I have Osteoarthritis in both kneecaps and a buggered back due to an accident in the RAF back in 1982. This year I have fallen twice (I am 76). The first time (July this year) I was cutting the grass and fell backwards as I found a hole that I didn't know was there.

 

I went to the government hospital for X-rays and nothing was broken or seriously damaged but I go to the hospital physio department once a month for treatment but now in December it is still giving me some pain possibly because I am slack in doing my exercises.

 

My left arm problem was due to falling off the scooter at about 3 kph when the front wheel dropped in a hole. I fell off, lost my balance  and fell backwards. I was lying on my back, arms and legs in the air bellowing for help to get up. Fortunately the lady across the road saw and heard me and sent her son in law to get me up. I could probably made it on my own if I had found something fixed and solid to climb up but there was nothing.

[billd766]

8 hours ago, Asquith Production said:

I was told in the UK that I I had mild arthritis. Since coming to Thailand and the warm weather I have had no problems.

I find that every year in the "cold" season my arthritis plays up more. For cold read about 20C.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

I have the same problem, and also wondered about arthritis. However, I now think it's a muscle strain which, hopefully, will heal with time.

As we get older itt takes longer to recover from any injury or whatever.

[Neeranam]

Thanks for all the replies!

 

I've just taken aa Bufenac and will see if that makes any difference before going to hospital. 

[bunnydrops]

I have never liked the mouse. I use a trackball. When I worked I had it mounted to the front of the armrest. Never have to move your arm. I have tried a few. I like the ones where you roll the ball with your thumb but some like the ball in the middle. They run in price from around 30 US to a couple of hundred with many bells and whistles, programmable buttons. 

[greenmonkey]

13 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Thanks for all the replies!

 

I've just taken aa Bufenac and will see if that makes any difference before going to hospital. 

I encourage you to try that stretching exercise. Changed my life!

[BTB1977]

I'm sure the professionally trained doctor you saw was a quack.  The experts here on thaivisa will get you all fixed up. You will be kite flying in no time. 

[red roger]

On 12/2/2020 at 1:24 PM, ICELANDMAN said:

 

God gave us two hands, why use just one? ????

God? Nah mate, our parents "gave" us two hands.

As for joint pain, I find Diclofenac effective. 20 baht for a strip of 10 x 50 mg pills over the counter.

[Neeranam]

On 12/4/2020 at 2:11 PM, BTB1977 said:

I'm sure the professionally trained doctor you saw was a quack.  The experts here on thaivisa will get you all fixed up. You will be kite flying in no time. 

I haven't seen a doctor. 

[Neeranam]

On 12/4/2020 at 10:26 AM, greenmonkey said:

I encourage you to try that stretching exercise. Changed my life!

Tried it starting yesterday, feels promising. Thanks.

 

Also tried Bufenac but seemed to make me feel strange, with blurred vision one day! 

[Oldie]

17 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Tried it starting yesterday, feels promising. Thanks.

 

Also tried Bufenac but seemed to make me feel strange, with blurred vision one day! 

Be careful with such pills. Read information on the internet. 

[GreasyFingers]

9 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Tried it starting yesterday, feels promising. Thanks.

 

Also tried Bufenac but seemed to make me feel strange, with blurred vision one day! 

Do not take more than one a day, even though some recommended dosages are 3 per day. I only take as necessary when the the arthritis is bad, maybe 3-4 per week. The first time I took the recommended dosage it made me feel  great with a bit of a high. That is why I limit its use.

[Neeranam]

I've tried both Bufenac and Ibuprofen together with exercises. I also tried Neurontin, but that was maybe just an excuse to be able to get  a good sleep:) 

Today is the first day for months that I can do things with no pain! 

Also, working at my computer on  a blowup ball, to improve posture. 

Thanks @GreasyFingers for that tip, I think it is the cause!

Thanks all for the replies!

[Neeranam]

Still painful, even when not moving. 

I'm going to go to a private hospital for an x-ray to see if it is muscular or bone. 

Anyone know the cost of an x-ray at a good private hospital? 

[Sheryl]

18 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Still painful, even when not moving. 

I'm going to go to a private hospital for an x-ray to see if it is muscular or bone. 

Anyone know the cost of an x-ray at a good private hospital? 

 

500 - 1000 baht on average

 

Ned to Xray not just the shoulder but also the cervical spine

 

Extremely unlikely to be a fracture and even if there is some arthritis visible it will not necessarily be the whole story. Xray won't be sufficient to look for other issues such as rotator cuff issues. Unless the film suggests cervical stenosis,  my earlier recommendation to consult Dr. Mason remains.

[terry Meltham]

I am In Surin now have big problem with my hip anybody had hip replacement in this area?

[Neeranam]

On 12/4/2020 at 2:11 PM, BTB1977 said:

I'm sure the professionally trained doctor you saw was a quack.  The experts here on thaivisa will get you all fixed up. You will be kite flying in no time. 

It was my sister!