COVID-19 in Thailand: Situation is under control, don’t believe fake news, says spokesman

[KhaoYai]

2 hours ago, MayPutThai said:

No, that's wrong. All you need is a fence, video control and maybe other special "effects".

BUILD THE WALL ????

[joecoolfrog]

5 hours ago, Moonlover said:

You mean like they did in South Korea? Have you seen what's happening there now?

Are you seriously suggesting that testing in itself creates infections ?Incredible , perhaps the biggest piece of nonsense regarding Covid I have come across. I would love to hear the reasoning behind such a crazy statement.

Mass testing identifies infections , minimal testing hides them , simple as that , how on earth does any degree of testing increase infections ?

[mbenson]

7 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

MB

 

why doesn’t thailand have a vaccine until May?

 

it’s because when you lack infrastructure, intel and resources for development, then you wait in line for handouts...you become totally dependent on the outside world...I knew it was all BS that Thai medical research was in a race for a vaccine...how about dealing with simple things like road infrastructure pollution POTWs clean water utility lines water safety etc....

 

 

It is interesting that Indonesia has already taken delivery of the SinoVac vaccine. Millions of doses. Why did the Thais not buy the Chinese vaccine? They could be immunizing now. They have a warm relationship with China and there was the potential for good business there for some folks. 

[mbenson]

6 hours ago, Moonlover said:

You mean like they did in South Korea? Have you seen what's happening there now?

At least they know what is happening there. Has Thailand done testing like Korea? Even for research purposes on focused populations, especially the antibody tests? It appears that Thailand doesn't want to know.

[tgw]

3 minutes ago, mbenson said:

It is interesting that Indonesia has already taken delivery of the SinoVac vaccine. Millions of doses. Why did the Thais not buy the Chinese vaccine? They could be immunizing now. They have a warm relationship with China and there was the potential for good business there for some folks. 

 

I guess it's because China wants something in return. Thailand has some big projects with China, I guess the vaccine would tip the scales in the deals.

[tgw]

32 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Are you seriously suggesting that testing in itself creates infections ?Incredible , perhaps the biggest piece of nonsense regarding Covid I have come across. I would love to hear the reasoning behind such a crazy statement.

Mass testing identifies infections , minimal testing hides them , simple as that , how on earth does any degree of testing increase infections ?

 

false positives. you mass-test a population with 0 infected, and you will end up with positive tests.

[joecoolfrog]

17 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

false positives. you mass-test a population with 0 infected, and you will end up with positive tests.

The false positive narrative has been seriously overstated , 0.5 % and even then partly reduced by false negatives.

One simply puts a margin of error into the equation , how is that not far superior to minimal testing and insufficient data ?

[kiwikeith]

16 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

As this was quoted in another article today:

 

“He urged those who had sneaked in earlier to report to public health officials as soon as possible."

 

It looks very much like he is spreading the fake news !

 

The situation is under control. 

This also means that these people who sneak across the Tachilek borders, have not created community spread. 

I can only put this down to one thing. 

 

The drugs they carry create prevent C19 spreading. 

2/ The water they wade through stops the disease transmitting. 

The big question is how the customs, police, army and immigration don't catch or spread covid,after a night out at the flash new Cassino, and a bit of hanky panky in the hotel. 

 

Only one reason I can think of, maybe they have been vaccinated with the Chinese Sino. Vaccine 

[Meat Pie 47]

3 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

BUILD THE WALL ????

Germany has plenty leftovers from the Berlin wall they might get it cheap

[jerolamo]

Question will still remain for ever to be:

How can citizen and foreigners can identify what is "a fake news" from an official "democracy under control" place ?

Not resolvable equation to be...

 

Even put of this story time, how can we recognize the smell of the "fake" origin about a subject where specialists are in contradiction ?

Is there any place in this smelly situation where official dictate what is fake or not to just hold on morality legit debate argumentation ?

 

You should start to read philosophy great authors, it is never bad to start to think and become intelligent. You should definitely remove all that is binary sentences result also...

[jerolamo]

2 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

The false positive narrative has been seriously overstated , 0.5 % and even then partly reduced by false negatives.

One simply puts a margin of error into the equation , how is that not far superior to minimal testing and insufficient data ?

97% of real positive are not seek by COVID-19, but have a little bit of Sars-cov-2. Sars-cov-2 is the virus, COVID-19 is the consequence only if from virus you will become seek (depend of the virus charge and because of easy propagation, only 3% might be).

But looks like that all scientist facts who is not going the way they want it to push people in fear factor game will be censored and judged as fake news. Actually, there is a lot of scientist who are fake news owners, but still population is ignoramuses under control.

They tell you already: "All is under control" (all, and also everybody). That's it, who is still not able to see that nowadays ? That is the most ridiculous moment of the history world to get some official communication that almost 80% of population, if not more, understand how it is working... and should shut up to not be in pain with authorities (almost little capo around who are more stupid than the other ones and will finish to shame themselves, for sure).

Edited December 7, 2020 by jerolamo

[4MyEgo]

15 hours ago, herwin1234 said:

But i dont wanna play psychiatrics now...

 

Could it be fear or resentment that they can't return to their homeland due to lack of funds and future prospects due to age and not being able to survive there due to the cost of living, or a mix of banter and boredom, or that they know Thai's better than Thai's know themselves, or, or, or......

 

I for one feel safe, especially now during winter and my kids come home from school with coughs and sneezes, great to be a alive, can't wait for that vaccine though, but not the one with the mRNA in it for now.

[NoshowJones]

22 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

Every thing seem to be fake here.  I wouldn't believe anyone.  There all out for themselves and not the Thai people.  Why Thailand will not have a vaccine until May or later.  That not fake news that fact and it shouldn't be.

"There all out for themselves and not the Thai people." I have said this before and I will keep saying it. The unelected "PM" and his soldiers will do all they can including starting the vaccine as late as possible to keep the ASQ going as long as possible for reasons we all know about. 

[NoshowJones]

19 hours ago, norbra said:

Were the border force troops redeployed to watch the pesky protestors in Bangkok

Nothing wrong with the "pesky" protesters they may be the only hope for Thailands future unless you want unqualified soldiers to

keep on "running" the country.

 

[Nowisee]

16 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

If they were truly in control they would have put mass testing protocols in place long ago.

They would also have provided ample financial help to small businesses and individuals who have been critically impacted by this pandemic.

 

This requires spending money.  The reason for not spending money is probably expansive, but likely not trusting those given the money as they know they have one single goal, how much can they siphon off first.  

I don't know if it's possible for a Thai to get tested, free of charge or very little cost.  This would explain the very low number -  test few people, get few positives.  

 

 

16 hours ago, cardinalblue said:

MB

 

why doesn’t thailand have a vaccine until May?

 

it’s because when you lack infrastructure, intel and resources for development, then you wait in line for handouts...you become totally dependent on the outside world...I knew it was all BS that Thai medical research was in a race for a vaccine...how about dealing with simple things like road infrastructure pollution POTWs clean water utility lines water safety etc....

 

thailand can’t compete with the post or tech industrial worlds...

 

their number came up in May courtesy of UK....

I doubt the average people in Laos, Myanmar or Cambodia will be receiving any [real] vaccine before May.  
It's where you fall within the food chain.  Unless this is an international effort by all those countries, it is possible that not everyone will receive a vaccine.  Foreigners will because they will likely charge A LOT for it and I doubt our respective governments will provide vaccination at consulates or embassies.  

 

16 hours ago, jaiyen said:

The trouble with Thailand is that the people have been programmed to believe what they are told by so called superior officials. Never see any figures regarding covid testings. Just have to believe what the government say ! That's where the fake news starts.

 

They believe it because they don't have the capacity to research it and understand it on their own.  Knowledge is power and well...
Not to question it because (read above)
However, I think the superior officials have blown their load, the people have lost trust and faith, thus the protests.
 

14 hours ago, rabas said:

"why doesn’t thailand have a vaccine until May?  it’s because when you lack infrastructure, intel and resources for development.... "

 

-- Thailand is developing their own vaccine AND has arranged to manufacture Astrazenica's vaccine locally because they already have the infrastructure to do so and can thus jump the queue....

 

--  Thailand was the first country in the world outside China to genetically sequence the full genome and did so before China announced their genome sequence to the world. Thailand simply said, yep, that matches ours.

 

Learry?  555

 

 

[NoshowJones]

8 hours ago, mbenson said:

It is interesting that Indonesia has already taken delivery of the SinoVac vaccine. Millions of doses. Why did the Thais not buy the Chinese vaccine? They could be immunizing now. They have a warm relationship with China and there was the potential for good business there for some folks. 

If they start immunizing now, the unelected "PM" and his soldiers will come under pressure to stop the ASQs, and that is the last thing they want as it is such a moneymaker for them.

[Moonlover]

10 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

16 hours ago, Moonlover said:

You mean like they did in South Korea? Have you seen what's happening there now?

 

10 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Are you seriously suggesting that testing in itself creates infections ?

No I am not. What a ridiculous interpretation!

[jomtienisgood]

On 12/7/2020 at 8:53 AM, RotBenz8888 said:

And why would emergency health centers be needed? 

Just maybe to try to prevent the current situation in the rest of the world????

[jomtienisgood]

1 hour ago, possum1931 said:

If they start immunizing now, the unelected "PM" and his soldiers will come under pressure to stop the ASQs, and that is the last thing they want as it is such a moneymaker for them.

I would think the ASQ's are not SUCH a moneymaker compared to the normal tourism or the problems the Covid occurs in terms of business...

Besides that, what makes you say he was ' unelected' ??????

[jomtienisgood]

16 hours ago, MayPutThai said:

No, that's wrong. All you need is a fence, video control and maybe other special "effects".

The Border between East and West Germany was not so long but on that some hundreds km very efficient. 

 

Just can look even near in Singapore

I don't see how you can compare ' normal city streets' and Km's of Jungle.....

[NoshowJones]

1 minute ago, jomtienisgood said:

I would think the ASQ's are not SUCH a moneymaker compared to the normal tourism or the problems the Covid occurs in terms of business...

Besides that, what makes you say he was ' unelected' ??????

This is the first time ever on Thaivisa I have been speechless. ????

[GroveHillWanderer]

20 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

In order to dismiss news as 'fake first you must identify that it IS fake. Perhaps he would share his formula for doing that?

 

It's quite clear from the article what the fake news is, that he is talking about:

 

Quote

A story that ten provinces were off limits was nonsense, he said, and should be called out as fake news.

 

I'm fairly sure his formula for establishing that this is fake news, is the fact that no such restrictions are in place.

[jomtienisgood]

2 hours ago, possum1931 said:

This is the first time ever on Thaivisa I have been speechless. ????

There is a start to everything.... even death..... 

[Mike k]

On 12/7/2020 at 8:51 AM, Thaiwrath said:

As this was quoted in another article today:

 

“He urged those who had sneaked in earlier to report to public health officials as soon as possible."

 

It looks very much like he is spreading the fake news !

 

If they know who they are why aren't they arrested 

[Mike k]

3 hours ago, jomtienisgood said:

I would think the ASQ's are not SUCH a moneymaker compared to the normal tourism or the problems the Covid occurs in terms of business...

Besides that, what makes you say he was ' unelected' ??????

When you hand pick a majority of the senators from military generals that will appoint you as pm I'd say that is unelected 

[jomtienisgood]

13 minutes ago, Mike k said:

If they know who they are why aren't they arrested 

Maybe he's talking or addressing to the ones they don't know. Maybe difficult to get the concept...㊙️

[jomtienisgood]

11 minutes ago, Mike k said:

When you hand pick a majority of the senators from military generals that will appoint you as pm I'd say that is unelected 

That's just a point a view...

[Traubert]

14 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Are you seriously suggesting that testing in itself creates infections ?Incredible , perhaps the biggest piece of nonsense regarding Covid I have come across. I would love to hear the reasoning behind such a crazy statement.

Mass testing identifies infections , minimal testing hides them , simple as that , how on earth does any degree of testing increase infections ?

By getting a lot of people to congregate in one place? Including infected people.

[Mung]

15 hours ago, mbenson said:

It is interesting that Indonesia has already taken delivery of the SinoVac vaccine. Millions of doses. Why did the Thais not buy the Chinese vaccine? They could be immunizing now. They have a warm relationship with China and there was the potential for good business there for some folks. 

Maybe when it comes to their own health, they are wise enough not to trust the Chinese. When it comes to money and screwing over others, they are fine with it. 

Edited December 8, 2020 by Mung

[Khunangkaro]

On 12/7/2020 at 11:01 AM, Surelynot said:

What's the panic?......I read the US news....isn't it all just a hoax?

Just that... 

Every year there is seasonal flu with its natural consequences. 

Every day many people pass away from (traffic)accidents, cancer, drugs overdose (alcohol), heart lungs and intestinal problems, obesitas and diabetes, mental (domestic violence & suicide), etc.. 

Don't believe PCRtest (many false positive and false negative). Stay home when have common symptoms and a few days flu. With high temp see a doctor. Just the same as every year before, since time immemorial. 

Vaccin (not for me) is very profitable for the industry, but the short-term effect might not be as you wish, and the long-term is unknown. 

Additives, as well, can be secret with destructive effects (search history).