Popular Post webfact Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 Chiang Mai: Praise for cops fining helmetless motorcyclists - 120 tickets issued on first day Picture: Manager Online Thai media Manager was full of praise for the police in Chiang Mai in the north of Thailand after they introduced their much heralded "Artificial Intelligence" cameras to catch riders and pillion passengers without helmets. They said that the system was accurate and a boon for reducing the need for RTP manpower. The system was started Tuesday with 16 cameras in five districts - Muang, Mae Rim, Saraphi, Hang Dong and Sansai. The cameras are connected to other systems meaning that instant fines can be sent to the owner of the motorcycle at their home address. If the rider is not wearing a helmet the fine is 400 baht, for the pillion passenger it is 800 baht. Manager did not explain why they are different or if vehicle owners were liable for their passengers. Explaining the system was Pol Lt-Col Surachai Janthara who noted the cameras' clarity. He said that on Tuesday during the daylight hours 20 fines were issued. At night it was 100. This, he said in his detailed analysis, indicated that more people were not wearing helmets at night. He added that the cameras were mobile and there were plans in the future for more. This all meant less need for checkpoints and less drain on police manpower. Picture: Manager Online Manager had a picture at one location that showed a stand up sign advertising an 800 baht fine (in Thai) for pillion passengers and a 400 baht "find" (sic) on an electric screen. Source: Manager Online -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-12-17 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mops59 Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 And what about the babies in between and the children in front? 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yeahbutif Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 Would have been more than 120 but all the rest had no plate or painted out..dam 4 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crusader Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 Good job guys...let's have plod doing this everywhere - and every day. 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mr mr Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: If the rider is not wearing a helmet the fine is 400 baht, for the pillion passenger it is 800 baht. so double dangerous for the pillion....got it. safe to assume babies being held in their mother's arms are exempt ? 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony M Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 When I worked in Bahrain many years ago, the govt/police installed cameras at traffic lights. It took very little time for them to be totally destroyed by the locals. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deli Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 The usual helmets sold in Thailand are only useful if you take them as a potty. What do you expect from a 300 Baht helmet ? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 In the absence of foreigners we have to do something to makeup the shortfall our tea is so weak these days???? 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 Riddle me this, why is it I never see a police vehicle, 4 wheels or 2, that has pulled over a motorist for a traffic infringement? Do they think they will catch speedsters, the helmetless etc. by relying on cameras that frequently don't work, or sitting on their <deleted> at checkpoints? 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3tsw Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Of the 120 fines issued , how many I wonder will actually pay up , I would guess if they achieve double figures they will be lucky. The only way to ensure payment is to march them of to an ATM under threat of incarceration if they fail to cough up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 hours ago, webfact said: If the rider is not wearing a helmet the fine is 400 baht, for the pillion passenger it is 800 baht. Where's the logic in that - twice more for a passenger? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Lacessit said: Riddle me this, why is it I never see a police vehicle, 4 wheels or 2, that has pulled over a motorist for a traffic infringement? Do they think they will catch speedsters, the helmetless etc. by relying on cameras that frequently don't work, or sitting on their <deleted> at checkpoints? The RTP seems to be untrained, unwilling and incapable of having a mobile, traffic enforcement capability. I doubt any have been trained or equipped to do such a thing, at least in Pattaya/Jomtien. The unmates have taken over the streets hereabouts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LoliLoso Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 In the LED screen, they say Find 400 Baht. So if you see the LED sign, you should be rewarded with 400 Baht.???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaiyaTH Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) I got one for this in CM already weeks ago, maybe they were beta testing? Edited December 17, 2020 by ChaiyaTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post digger70 Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 hours ago, webfact said: Chiang Mai: Praise for cops fining helmetless motorcyclists - 120 tickets issued on first day This is a big joke , How many Riders are the Owners,How many have the right address on the Rego,How many ,If they Get the Fine in the Mail Will Pay? ???? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: Chiang Mai: Praise for cops fining helmetless motorcyclists - 120 tickets issued on first day Whoopy ,120 tickets If they get their Sh!t together they can hand out Millions of tickets per day. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE1 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: They said that the system was accurate and a boon for reducing the need for RTP manpower You can't reduce them much more or there will be none left . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FNQ Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: Chiang Mai: Praise for cops fining helmetless motorcyclists - 120 tickets issued on first day Picture: Manager Online Thai media Manager was full of praise for the police in Chiang Mai in the north of Thailand after they introduced their much heralded "Artificial Intelligence" cameras to catch riders and pillion passengers without helmets. They said that the system was accurate and a boon for reducing the need for RTP manpower. The system was started Tuesday with 16 cameras in five districts - Muang, Mae Rim, Saraphi, Hang Dong and Sansai. The cameras are connected to other systems meaning that instant fines can be sent to the owner of the motorcycle at their home address. If the rider is not wearing a helmet the fine is 400 baht, for the pillion passenger it is 800 baht. Manager did not explain why they are different or if vehicle owners were liable for their passengers. Explaining the system was Pol Lt-Col Surachai Janthara who noted the cameras' clarity. He said that on Tuesday during the daylight hours 20 fines were issued. At night it was 100. This, he said in his detailed analysis, indicated that more people were not wearing helmets at night. He added that the cameras were mobile and there were plans in the future for more. This all meant less need for checkpoints and less drain on police manpower. Picture: Manager Online Manager had a picture at one location that showed a stand up sign advertising an 800 baht fine (in Thai) for pillion passengers and a 400 baht "find" (sic) on an electric screen. Source: Manager Online -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-12-17 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates What about the Bikes with no Number Plate ? That will be interesting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: with 16 cameras in five districts - Muang, Mae Rim, Saraphi, Hang Dong and Sansai. Should be easy to locate these 16 cameras and plot "rat runs" around them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Off topic posts have been removed. Posts containing profanity have been edited or removed: 8.) You will not post disruptive or inflammatory messages, vulgarities, obscenities or profanities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Lacessit said: Riddle me this, why is it I never see a police vehicle, 4 wheels or 2, that has pulled over a motorist for a traffic infringement? Do they think they will catch speedsters, the helmetless etc. by relying on cameras that frequently don't work, or sitting on their <deleted> at checkpoints? So many complaints on TVF regarding the non enforcement of these violations. Your post has little merit it seems. Don't you care about the safety and health of riders on the roads? I have seen drivers stopped in Pattaya. And yes, as opposed to your post the cameras in fact worked and caught over 100 violators in one day. Anyone who cares and believes in enforcement of this important safety issue should be happy, not negative and demeaning. Camera citations are used in many western countries same as they are doing here now. So, wear a helmet and obey the rules or or may get a citation sent to you. Be safe.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, bkk6060 said: So many complaints on TVF regarding the non enforcement of these violations. Your post has little merit it seems. Don't you care about the safety and health of riders on the roads? I have seen drivers stopped in Pattaya. And yes, as opposed to your post the cameras in fact worked and caught over 100 violators in one day. Anyone who cares and believes in enforcement of this important safety issue should be happy, not negative and demeaning. Camera citations are used in many western countries same as they are doing here now. So, wear a helmet and obey the rules or or may get a citation sent to you. Be safe.. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out enforcement could be far more effective with real policing. As far as compliance goes, I am a model alien. That's what we are here, n'est ce pas? May you shoot sub-70 in your next round of golf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Tea Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Tony M said: When I worked in Bahrain many years ago, the govt/police installed cameras at traffic lights. It took very little time for them to be totally destroyed by the locals. Hope they do the same here. Next up is fines for everyone crossing white lines, on badly laid out roads, poor paint, hard to see at night or against the sun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksidedude Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Mops59 said: And what about the babies in between and the children in front? that is so dangerous i showed my wife a pic of a baby that come off she would never consider doing that ever after seeing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Police check points have now ceased in our area ! When they were mounted it was after the students, 3 or 4 to a motorbike, had gone to school . At the end of the school day the 3 or 4 to a bike leaving the school were able to do so as the policeman controlled the motor traffic . !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herwin1234 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Good grief, so very un-Thai. Its ppl's own resposibility, a helmet or not. Charles Darwin did explain about it in his book. I hope this doesnt end in a western style Nanny state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Do it right, bring back the motorcycle check points for license as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeem Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, The Theory said: Do it right, bring back the motorcycle check points for license as well. No point .. No foreign tourists to fleece! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I don't understand why they do not enforce this helmet less policy nationwide. They do occassionally, it's like fruit picking in Australia.... seasonal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 14 hours ago, a3tsw said: Of the 120 fines issued , how many I wonder will actually pay up , I would guess if they achieve double figures they will be lucky. The only way to ensure payment is to march them of to an ATM under threat of incarceration if they fail to cough up. Yep got caught in Spain 2 years ago for no seatbelt, frogmarched to the nearest ATM and 100€ and then on me way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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