To fight new COVID strain, UK PM Johnson reverses Christmas plans for millions

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

I know i read. I was just joking.

Still, they should charge the UK, same as the US wants to charge China for virus export.

[robblok]

7 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

The Netherlands and Belgium have now stopped all airtraffic with the UK. Also no more Eurostar.

Unless we can close the borders to everyone from the UK it wont work. As long as they are still in Europe we cant. But I believe its too late already. 

[mrfill]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

I hope they EU puts a high tariff on the English corvid strain to keep it out ????

British crows will not be subject to any tariff unless a couple of dozen get baked in a pie, which is subsequently exported.

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

The Netherlands and Belgium have now stopped all airtraffic with the UK. Also no more Eurostar.

Belgium, starting at midnight, also other traffic from UK. Netherlands for the moment from UK can still come by car, ferry or train.

[oldhippy]

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

Unless we can close the borders to everyone from the UK it wont work. As long as they are still in Europe we cant. But I believe its too late already. 

 

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Belgium, starting at midnight, also other traffic from UK. Netherlands for the moment from UK can still come by car, ferry or train.

Again this shows that what we need is a united strong Europe, and not every country doing their own thing.

[mrfill]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

One assumes the current vaccines cannot be deployed against this new strain of Covid-19, so more delays ahead to get matters under control.

One should not assume. The current vaccines are just as effective and the new strain is not more lethal. It just spreads more rapidly.

[oldhippy]

1 minute ago, mrfill said:

One should not assume. The current vaccines are just as effective and the new strain is not more lethal. It just spreads more rapidly.

That is what you assume. One should not assume. Deeeeuuuuhhhhh.

 

[sungod]

16 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

 

Again this shows that what we need is a united strong Europe, and not every country doing their own thing.

No such thing as a united Europe, never will be , best stop dreaming.

[dunroaming]

19 minutes ago, mrfill said:

One should not assume. The current vaccines are just as effective and the new strain is not more lethal. It just spreads more rapidly.

That is true, or so they say!  Never can be sure of what is true with this shower of charlatans in charge.  They are testing the vaccine against the new strain of the virus now, or so they say!

[Meat Pie 47]

8 hours ago, 2530Ubon said:

This imbecile will single handedly destroy the UK. He's a renowned liar and part of the reason he's struggling to get a Brexit deal is because he lies all the time. Now he's been caught lying about Christmas plans.

 

His tier plan didn't work last time, and led to a second national shutdown. Why not double down on a failed policy? What a moron.

The last three days have seen an average of 30,000+ new infections with 500+ deaths a day due to his moronic handling of COVID. Bear in mind that the weekend is also slowly reported, so the figures are probably much higher, and Mondays figures will be astronomical.

 

And please cut your hair. Your supposed to be the Prime Minister of the UK, not a clown on a windy day.

 

why cut the hair his idol in the US has the same

[dunroaming]

4 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

That is true, or so they say!  Never can be sure of what is true with this shower of charlatans in charge.  They are testing the vaccine against the new strain of the virus now, or so they say!

 

Starmer has just held a press conference with a scathing attack on Boris and his handling of this latest fiasco over Covid restrictions.  Johnson is obviously safe in his position until the new year and the final nail has been hammered into the Brexit coffin.  But it will be interesting to see the number of Knives out for him in 2021.

[2530Ubon]

2 hours ago, transam said:

You haven't mentioned one word about the UK tossers who didn't take any notice about staying safe and  spreading the virus..

Why is that...? ????

I forgot - It's nice to agree with you transam!

[bannork]

2 hours ago, sungod said:

He was trying to give the British people their Christmas after a terrible year, it didn't work out that way and he followed the advice of the scientists.

 

Very easy to criticize from your arm chair in Thailand.

This is why Boris is totally unsuitable to be PM at present. He's a feel good optimist, short on detail he doesn't like to bring bad news.

But in a crisis you need someone  steadfast, prepared to deliver bad news.

Johnson is not that man.

[dunroaming]

42 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Belgium, starting at midnight, also other traffic from UK. Netherlands for the moment from UK can still come by car, ferry or train.

Germany are apparently reviewing their position over flights to the UK as well.

[oldhippy]

24 minutes ago, sungod said:

No such thing as a united Europe, never will be , best stop dreaming.

OK.

A united continental Europe will suit me fine, and not dreaming.

[Enoon]

43 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

That is what you assume. One should not assume. Deeeeuuuuhhhhh.

 

 

"Ewan Birney, deputy director general of the European Molecular Biology Laboratory and joint director of its European Bioinformatics Institute in Cambridge...........said the vaccines have been tested with many variants of the virus circulating. “So there is every reason to think that the vaccines will still work against this new strain, though obviously that needs to be tested thoroughly.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/19/what-is-the-new-covid-strain-and-will-vaccines-work-against-it

 

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Enoon

[sammieuk1]

Every country seems to have an Anutin somewhere in their government we just happen to have a large blonde one ????

[dunroaming]

30 minutes ago, sungod said:

No such thing as a united Europe, never will be , best stop dreaming.

Of course there is a united Europe, it is called the EU.  It has been there since the days it was called the Common Market.  Britain is not part of it anymore but it is still there.  Best to remember that whatever happened over Brexit, we are all still Europeans, as Boris has stated over and over again. 

[oldhippy]

2 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

"Ewan Birney, deputy director general of the European Molecular Biology Laboratory and joint director of its European Bioinformatics Institute in Cambridge...........said the vaccines have been tested with many variants of the virus circulating. “So there is every reason to think that the vaccines will still work against this new strain, though obviously that needs to be tested thoroughly.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/19/what-is-the-new-covid-strain-and-will-vaccines-work-against-it

 

 

QUOTE: 

“So there is every reason to think that the vaccines will still work against this new strain, though obviously that needs to be tested thoroughly.”

 

I feel honoured that Ewan Birney, deputy director general of the European Molecular Biology Laboratory and joint director of its European Bioinformatics Institute in Cambridge agrees with me.

 

[simple1]

1 hour ago, onthedarkside said:

 

From the OP report:

"There's no evidence to suggest it is more lethal or causes more severe illness," Johnson said. "There's no evidence to suggest the vaccine will be any less effective against the new variant.

 

 

My oversight - apologies

[oldhippy]

25 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Every country seems to have an Anutin somewhere in their government we just happen to have a large blonde one ????

Yes, but while Anutin is a frustated incompetent fool, Bojo is a funny incompetent fool.

[Oldie]

The new Covid strain can travel by plane around the world and this for free. It might be just a question of time until it arrives here in Thailand. 

[Bruntoid]

13 hours ago, edwinchester said:

3 days ago this charlatan was ridiculing the leader of the opposition for suggesting not easing lockdown conditions just for Christmas when it was obvious cases are starting to get out of control again. And now yet another reversal from this incompetent opportunist.

So far out of his depth on everything he touches. 
 

Even a comb !

[Bruntoid]

10 hours ago, sungod said:

Do you believe he is wrong to do this then?

You’ve totally missed the point - if he hadn’t made an utter pigs ear of the whole thing a reversal now might not have been necessary. 
 

The former chief scientific advisor has already laid 40,000 excess deaths at his door purely through incompetence! 

[Chelseafan]

9 hours ago, 2530Ubon said:

 

Before Johnson reversed himself, the scientists were clamouring that it was a terrible idea. He didn't listen. Why would he listen - he was told the tier plan wouldn't work, but hey, it didn't work the first time so let's try it again.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54592112

 

 

 

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/christmas-bubbles-covid-rules-scientists_uk_5fbe1506c5b68ca87f7fea85

 

 

 

If you have a better idea, one that doesn't destroy the economy further then please enlighten us.

 

[Marabou]

8 hours ago, mrfill said:

One should not assume. The current vaccines are just as effective and the new strain is not more lethal. It just spreads more rapidly.

How would you know that if you weren't assuming? The strain was only recognized as a new strain within the past few weeks and it takes at least 28 days to test the vaccines (2 years for full monitoring), not to mention the fact that vaccines just started rolling out last week.

Besides, you're not looking at the bigger picture here, which should have been obvious to everyone from the first time they heard this was an RNA virus back in December. This vaccine most likely is effective for this newer strain, but by the time we see that and come back here to discuss it, we'll be talking about a completely different "new strain".

Edited December 20, 2020 by Marabou

[oldhippy]

46 minutes ago, Chelseafan said:

 

If you have a better idea, one that doesn't destroy the economy further then please enlighten us.

 

I have a cunning plan:

Let's destroy the economy further AND at the same time create more medical problems. We could call this the Bojo Plan.

[Cobra666]

7 hours ago, Oldie said:

The new Covid strain can travel by plane around the world and this for free. It might be just a question of time until it arrives here in Thailand. 

Higher ticket prices might make the virus think twice about traveling. 

[apetley]

18 hours ago, sungod said:

Stammer has no position, that's the problem.

Boris Johnson is the Prime Minister and now seems to agree with the Labour Leaders position after ridiculing it only last week in PMQs.

[Justgrazing]

On 12/19/2020 at 10:50 PM, rooster59 said:

London and southeast England, which are currently in the highest level of a three-tier system of rules, would now be placed in a new Tier 4 level

 

More tiers than a bleeding wedding cake by the time this is over ..