Thailand confirms 81 new coronavirus infections

[webfact]

Thailand confirms 81 new coronavirus infections

 

FILE PHOTO: A migrant worker has her temperature checked as she queues to talk with the public health authorities for a COVID-19 investigation at a fresh market, amid the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak, in Bangkok, Thailand, December 22, 2020. REUTERS/Chalinee Thirasupa/File Photo

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand confirmed 81 new coronavirus infections on Friday, of which nine were imported from abroad, the public health ministry said.

 

Around half the 72 locally transmitted cases reported were linked to an outbreak discovered at the weekend at a seafood centre near the capital Bangkok, the ministry said in a statement.

 

It did not say where the other cases were from.

 

More than 1,400 infections have been linked to the seafood centre outbreak since last week, the majority of those migrant workers from Myanmar.

 

(Reporting by Panarat Thepgumpanat and Orathai Sriring; Editing by Shri Navaratnam)

 

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[4reaL]

It will be exponentially spreading now if the incubation period really is 10 to 14 days from the initial cases in Mae Sai and Maha Chai.

 

 

 

[bermondburi]

And no news of any more migrants testing positive in SS either. 

[ThailandRyan]

Yet, they are still keeping things open for domestic travel, and certain venues to be used such as parks, shopping malls, large areas where people gather and shop such as Yaowrat Rd and the small side Sois which are packed with shoppers.  Schools being shut have only added more bodies to these places.  I expect the numbers to soon reach all provinces as people travel home for the New Year holiday.

[smutcakes]

Just now, 4reaL said:

It will be exponentially spreading now if the incubation period really is 10 to 14 days from the initial cases in Mae Sai and Maha Chai.

 

 

 

the Mae Sai cases were a month ago. I expect this outbreak is completely unrelated. Obviously the fact its a wholesale market where vendors from all over the country travel to and from makes it easy to spread. For so many to be infected its clearly been circulating in the Myanmar community for some time.

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, bermondburi said:

And no news of any more migrants testing positive in SS either. 

They are hiding those numbers for whatever reasons, plus the locals do not want the field hospitals in the locations they are being set up.  There was quite the commotion yesterday regarding it.

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

the Mae Sai cases were a month ago. I expect this outbreak is completely unrelated. Obviously the fact its a wholesale market where vendors from all over the country travel to and from makes it easy to spread. For so many to be infected its clearly been circulating in the Myanmar community for some time.

Mae Aei has infections as well as a few other locations in Chiang Rai now. That was reported yesterday.  The new color coded scheme they are using for provinces will be the tell all as the colors go to the side where it requires lockdowns and closures like in Samut Sakhon.

[bermondburi]

2 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

the Mae Sai cases were a month ago. I expect this outbreak is completely unrelated. Obviously the fact its a wholesale market where vendors from all over the country travel to and from makes it easy to spread. For so many to be infected its clearly been circulating in the Myanmar community for some time.

Which means it's also been circulating in the Thai community for some time too. 

[rabas]

10 minutes ago, webfact said:

Around half the 72 locally transmitted cases reported were linked to an outbreak discovered at the weekend at a seafood centre near the capital Bangkok, the ministry said in a statement.

 

It did not say where the other cases were from.

 

There's your sign.

[bermondburi]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

They are hiding those numbers for whatever reasons, plus the locals do not want the field hospitals in the locations they are being set up.  There was quite the commotion yesterday regarding it.

Messes up their position in the league table. 

[smutcakes]

5 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

They are hiding those numbers for whatever reasons, plus the locals do not want the field hospitals in the locations they are being set up.  There was quite the commotion yesterday regarding it.

 

They quoted 35.

[Chivas]

Out of control now

Expect complete lockdown by month end across the Country

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

 

They quoted 35.

local infections not migrant infections as they have now separated them out of the Stats and are hiding them somewhere.  It is all about FACE, having to many cases will make them look like they can not control Covid and they pride themselves in keeping the numbers down as in implying there are few infections in Thailand, whether asymptomatic or not.  The only reason that field hospitals would be needed is that should they take them to a hospital then there would be an overcrowding issue, which they also want to show is not occurring.

[smutcakes]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

local infections not migrant infections as they have now separated them out of the Stats and are hiding them somewhere.  It is all about FACE, having to many cases will make them look like they can not control Covid and they pride themselves in keeping the numbers down as in implying there are few infections in Thailand, whether asymptomatic or not.  The only reason that field hospitals would be needed is that should they take them to a hospital then there would be an overcrowding issue, which they also want to show is not occurring.

 

37 local to local infections and 35 migrant. Its not hidden its on the Govt presentation.  I presume field hospitals are used as have 1,000 new Myanmar infections with many probably not serious or asymptomatic is not necessary to hospitalize them.

[rabas]

6 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

 

37 local to local infections and 35 migrant. Its not hidden its on the Govt presentation.  I presume field hospitals are used as have 1,000 new Myanmar infections with many probably not serious or asymptomatic is not necessary to hospitalize them.

Where do you see this? Is there a link? I can only find government data through the 24th. Thanks.

 

 

[stevenl]

18 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Out of control now

Expect complete lockdown by month end across the Country

Maybe. But 81 is far less than I expected, so if this holds it is not too bad at all.

[smutcakes]

10 minutes ago, rabas said:

Where do you see this? Is there a link? I can only find government data through the 24th. Thanks.

 

 

Its on the news now, with the Government spokesman

[dcnx]

38 minutes ago, 4reaL said:

It will be exponentially spreading now if the incubation period really is 10 to 14 days from the initial cases in Mae Sai and Maha Chai.

 

 

 

I saw one piece of data where they suggest that for every 1 found infection there are 10 others. That is a generalization of how the virus is spreading vs testing. 
 

Point us, there are a lot of cases in Thailand. They just haven’t found them.

[dcnx]

10 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Maybe. But 81 is far less than I expected, so if this holds it is not too bad at all.

81 that they found. Those who haven’t been found are still out there spreading if. Those 81 who have been found have already spread it.

 

81 found means several hundred actual infections, if not into the 1000s. 
 

There is data on this where a certain amount of infections are expected per every 1 that’s found.

[dcnx]

39 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

the Mae Sai cases were a month ago. I expect this outbreak is completely unrelated. Obviously the fact its a wholesale market where vendors from all over the country travel to and from makes it easy to spread. For so many to be infected its clearly been circulating in the Myanmar community for some time.

Notice how those infections fizzled out? 
 

You can’t trust the government here when it comes to accurate numbers. 

[smutcakes]

1 minute ago, dcnx said:

Notice how those infections fizzled out? 
 

You can’t trust the government here when it comes to accurate numbers. 

Seems you know everything so i will defer to you.

[stevenl]

18 minutes ago, dcnx said:

I saw one piece of data where they suggest that for every 1 found infection there are 10 others. That is a generalization of how the virus is spreading vs testing. 
 

Point us, there are a lot of cases in Thailand. They just haven’t found them.

Please show a reliable source for this or stop posting 'I heard it through the grapevine opinions' as fact.

Edited December 25, 2020 by stevenl

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

21 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Maybe. But 81 is far less than I expected, so if this holds it is not too bad at all.

 

The government isn't reporting all the migrant likely infections in their official counts thus far... The 1400 number is presumably based on initial testing out in the field...

 

But unless they've changed it, the Thai government has a very precise and elaborate process for CONFIRMING a CV infection that requires multiple checks... And they appear to be taking their sweet time in moving all those initial tests thru the confirming process.

 

 

[smutcakes]

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The government isn't reporting all the migrant likely infections in their official counts thus far... The 1400 number is presumably based on initial testing out in the field...

 

But unless they've changed it, the Thai government has a very precise and elaborate process for CONFIRMING a CV infection that requires multiple checks... And they appear to be taking their sweet time in moving all those initial tests thru the confirming process.

 

 

 

On the English news update they said for the migrant cluster in Samut, they had tested over 8,000 and the infection rate was something like 1,400- 15% down from 19%.

 

35 more today from the migrant community.

 

What are they leaving out?

[JHicks]

39 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

 

37 local to local infections and 35 migrant. Its not hidden its on the Govt presentation.  I presume field hospitals are used as have 1,000 new Myanmar infections with many probably not serious or asymptomatic is not necessary to hospitalize them.

The tweet I saw didn't indicate where the 35 had been found. Presumably not Samut Sakhon though, because they said they were announcing those numbers separately. I can see the logic of segregating the Samut Sakhon cluster but why distinguish between Thai nationals and migrant workers in the rest of the country?

[foreverlomsak]

51 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

The new color coded scheme they are using for provinces

Apart from the color coded map on the official Department of Decease Control webpage, where can I get up to date info on the provinces zone color, DDC shows yellow with 1 infection Wed 23rd, teachers at my kids schools yesterday are saying Red for Phetchabun, with shops and open air markets being closed which is contrary to my visual observations. 

[PGSan]

5 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said:

Apart from the color coded map on the official Department of Decease Control webpage,

Please can you post a link to this?  Thanks.

[foreverlomsak]

1 minute ago, PGSan said:

Please can you post a link to this?  Thanks.

Covid-19 Infected Situation Reports (Thailand) (moph.go.th)

As easy done as asked for

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Around half the 72 locally transmitted cases reported were linked to an outbreak discovered at the weekend at a seafood centre near the capital Bangkok, the ministry said in a statement.

 

It did not say where the other cases were from.

 

59 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

 

37 local to local infections and 35 migrant. Its not hidden its on the Govt presentation.  I presume field hospitals are used as have 1,000 new Myanmar infections with many probably not serious or asymptomatic is not necessary to hospitalize them.

Better look again, it says nothing about the others being Migrants.

[Virt]

56 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Out of control now

Expect complete lockdown by month end across the Country

 

I don't think so. 

Numbers of positives way to low to justify a nationwide lockdown.