U.S. government heads toward chaotic end to 2020 as Trump fights Congress

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44 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Why bring Mar a largo into it?

You think Trump is making decisions for the country based on his service staff costs. 

Try thinking of the bigger picture.

Anyways, so long as you are bashing Trump you are happy at least.

 

The 2017 tax bill especially favored 2 classes of business. Real estate and limited partnerships. Those 2 categories apply to most of Trump's businesses. And keep in mind that Trump could have put his businesses in a blind trust. He chose not to.

And it's always a tell that someone doesn't have much in the way of refutation, when they make it personal. I have no idea what makes you happy and could care less.

[wwest5829]

10 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

No...exciting. That's why he was elected...to make these decisions and you and I weren't. 

Twice rejected by the citizens majority popular vote ...

[Pattaya Spotter]

59 minutes ago, malibukid said:

$600 will buy you one week at a Motel 6.  whoopee

It buys a decent amount of "lap dances" in Pattaya.

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[Sujo]

2 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Why bring Mar a largo into it?

You think Trump is making decisions for the country based on his service staff costs. 

Try thinking of the bigger picture.

Anyways, so long as you are bashing Trump you are happy at least.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes he is making those decisions on his behalf. Maralago is where he lives and makes his money. Its relevant.

 

though no one knows if he does actually make money.

[Sujo]

50 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

It buys a decent amount of "lap dances" in Pattaya.

You do realise the money is to stimulate the US economy dont you. Not the thai buffalo economy.

[PattayaJames]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

The 2017 tax bill especially favored 2 classes of business. Real estate and limited partnerships. Those 2 categories apply to most of Trump's businesses. And keep in mind that Trump could have put his businesses in a blind trust. He chose not to.

And it's always a tell that someone doesn't have much in the way of refutation, when they make it personal. I have no idea what makes you happy and could care less.

 

OK, if you say so, the whole Trump presidency was a ruse.

His only motivation tax cuts for his business empire and a reduction in service staff costs.

un refutable.

 

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1 minute ago, PattayaJames said:

 

OK, if you say so, the whole Trump presidency was a ruse.

His only motivation tax cuts for his business empire and a reduction in service staff costs.

un refutable.

 

More drivel. It is possible to have more than one motivation. Feeding the Kochs and their fellow travelers comes to mind. Aiding Wall Street and the banks. Hostility to organized labor. It's significant that the first environmental rollback of the Trump administration had to do with clean water regulations affecting golf courses. With Trump and so much of the moneyed interests of the right, the strategy is to rile up the masses on hot button issues like abortion and religion in public institutions, while changing the laws to allow themselves to amass every more money. So while the most recent justices appointed to the Supreme court are strongly antiabortion, they are just as strongly pro-corporation and anti-worker. As a recent study pointed out, 50 years of tax cuts for the wealthy which supposedly would lead to trickle down effects uplifting everyone else have done nothing of the sort. Just made the rich richer and with those riches giving them ever more power. Remember it was the right wing members of the Supreme Court who effectively removed the limits on election spending.

[Jillie Norman]

There are actually 8 Pattaya here.

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How Trump caved on the coronavirus relief bill

Getting a cranky, stubborn President Trump to belatedly sign the COVID relief bill, after unemployment benefits had already lapsed, was like being a hostage negotiator, or defusing a bomb

How Trump caved on the coronavirus relief bill - Axios

Edited December 28, 2020 by placeholder

[Jeffr2]

11 hours ago, placeholder said:

The 2017 tax bill especially favored 2 classes of business. Real estate and limited partnerships. Those 2 categories apply to most of Trump's businesses. And keep in mind that Trump could have put his businesses in a blind trust. He chose not to.

And it's always a tell that someone doesn't have much in the way of refutation, when they make it personal. I have no idea what makes you happy and could care less.

Trump only works for himself and his family.  He could careless about anyone else.  That's been proven.  Oh, along with he's a habitual liar.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/trump-his-family-could-save-more-1-billion-under-house-n821491

“It’s not good for me. Believe me,” he said at a Sept. 27 event in Indiana to sell the plan. “My plan is for the working people, and my plan is for jobs. I don’t benefit,” he also said that day.

 

And earlier this month, according to NBC News, Trump told a group of Democratic senators in a phone call, "My accountant called me and said 'you're going to get killed in this bill.’”

In fact, Trump and his heirs potentially could save more than $1 billion overall under the GOP tax proposal that the House of Representatives passed Thursday, with most of that amount coming from a repeal of the estate tax, according to an analysis NBC News commissioned of Trump’s one known 2005 tax return and his estimated net worth.

[Jeffr2]

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/

The Post says: Give it up, Mr. President — for your sake and the nation’s

[Jeffr2]

Ouch!  First over ride of a veto in years.  That's gotta hurt!

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/28/us/politics/house-overrides-trump-veto-military-bill.html

House Votes to Override Trump’s Veto of Military Bill

 

Republicans joined with Democrats to hand President Trump a rare legislative rebuke in the final days of his presidency. The bill will next be taken up by the Senate, where it is expected to pass.

[Jeffr2]

The GOP has lost the plot.  Incredible.  This borders on treason.

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/loui-gohmert-sues-mike-pence-overturn-biden-victory-election_n_5fea4a49c5b64e442105a608
 

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GOP Congressman Sues Mike Pence In Long-Shot Effort To Overturn Biden’s Victory

 

Rep. Louie Gohmert teamed up with Arizona’s would-be Republican electors in an attempt to give Pence sole power over counting electoral votes in Congress.

 

 

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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/

The Post says: Give it up, Mr. President — for your sake and the nation’s

 

 

A very interesting Editorial from the decidedly pro-Trump NY Post, that says in part:

 

"Sidney Powell is a crazy person. Michael Flynn suggesting martial law is tantamount to treason. It is shameful.

 

We understand, Mr. President, that you’re angry that you lost. But to continue down this road is ruinous. We offer this as a newspaper that endorsed you, that supported you: If you want to cement your influence, even set the stage for a future return, you must channel your fury into something more productive."

 

In other words, the people Trump has invited to the White House to confer with and seek out their advice are crazy and treasonous, so says the NY Post:

Trump Weighed Naming Election Conspiracy Theorist as Special Counsel

In a meeting at the White House on Friday, President Trump weighed appointing Sidney Powell, who promoted conspiracy theories about rigged voting machines, to investigate voter fraud.

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"Mr. Giuliani joined the discussion by phone initially, while Ms. Powell was at the White House for a meeting that became raucous and involved people shouting at each other at times, according to one of the people briefed on what took place.

Ms. Powell’s client, retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, the former national security adviser whom the president recently pardoned, was also there, two of the people briefed on the meeting said. Some senior administration officials drifted in and out of the meeting."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/us/politics/trump-sidney-powell-voter-fraud.html

 

[billd766]

On 12/28/2020 at 6:55 PM, PattayaJames said:

 

Why bring Mar a largo into it?

You think Trump is making decisions for the country based on his service staff costs. 

Try thinking of the bigger picture.

Anyways, so long as you are bashing Trump you are happy at least.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who owns Mar a Lago, and who benefits from every person staying there. Such as SS Agents, the flight crew of Air Force One and all of the other people employed by the US government who actually pay the bills. That cost will be covered by the taxpayer, if there are any left in the USA.

[PattayaJames]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

Who owns Mar a Lago, and who benefits from every person staying there. Such as SS Agents, the flight crew of Air Force One and all of the other people employed by the US government who actually pay the bills. That cost will be covered by the taxpayer, if there are any left in the USA.

 

So Trump owns Mar a Largo and they make money from paying guests, amazing. Who would have thought it.

I bet occupancy rates in this property are right at top of Trumps agenda. 

 

 

 

  

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3 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

So Trump owns Mar a Largo and they make money from paying guests, amazing. Who would have thought it.

I bet occupancy rates in this property are right at top of Trumps agenda.   

It's a bet you could win. After all, Trump didn't put his holdings into a blind trust.  Also, shortly after his election in 2016 he doubled the membership fee at Mar y Lago from 100,000 to 200,000. Maybe just for not and in no way capitalizing on his election victory. And as we know from the release of some of his tax returns, he's not doing real well. And the pandemic has especially hurt those who depend on tourism and business travel. He hasn't exactly detached himself from his businesses, has he?

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[simple1]

Federal Judge Calls Trump a ‘Criminal’ During a Phone Call with the Associated Press

https://lawandcrime.com/judiciary/federal-judge-calls-trump-a-criminal-during-a-phone-call-with-the-associated-press/

[Jeffr2]

9 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

 

So Trump owns Mar a Largo and they make money from paying guests, amazing. Who would have thought it.

I bet occupancy rates in this property are right at top of Trumps agenda. 

 

You're missing the big picture.  He's spent 450 days at his properties in the past 4 years.  Over 300 days playing golf.  More than any other president, and he's not done yet, being on the course yesterday.

 

At a minimum, 1MM has been spent for secret service agents to be with him when he golfs.  Millions have been spent by staff that accompanies him.  And Millions has been spent by those who want to curry favor from him.  Like Saudi Arabia renting out an entire floor at one of his properties for years, and never staying there.

 

One reason you don't want a president with outside business interests.  You do understand this, right?  Remember when he suggested the G7 be held at his resort?  Luckily, the GOP got him to back down.  Sad his supporters don't understand this.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-has-awarded-next-years-g-7-summit-of-world-leaders-to-his-miami-area-resort-the-white-house-said/2019/10/17/221b32d6-ef52-11e9-89eb-ec56cd414732_story.html

Trump has awarded next year’s G-7 summit of world leaders to his Miami-area resort, the White House said

[PatOngo]

On 12/28/2020 at 9:13 AM, Sujo said:

Trump disappoints you again,

Daily!

[J Town]

11 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

Daily!

The only guy who will sincerely miss 45 is Stephen Colbert. Sleepy Joe will make plenty of gaffs, but none in the same league.

[PatOngo]

Just now, J Town said:

The only guy who will sincerely miss 45 is Stephen Colbert. Sleepy Joe will make plenty of gaffs, but none in the same league.

I think the Proud Boys might miss him, although he can probably still insight them even when he's out of office!

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10 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

 

So Trump owns Mar a Largo and they make money from paying guests, amazing. Who would have thought it.

I bet occupancy rates in this property are right at top of Trumps agenda. 

Trump is under no compulsion to charge the govt anything for services provided to govt. employees. And do you believe that these secret service "guests" as you style them, have the option of staying at the Hotel 6 down the road?

[ballpoint]

Meanwhile, when not screwing the people and playing golf, Trump continues to act as if the election will be re-run, by releasing a campaign style video, which claims he won the Nobel Peace Prize.  And people accuse Biden of having dementia.

 

To be fair, Trump was nominated for the prize, but, as the article mentions, so too were:

"Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Rafael Trjillo, Benito Mussolini, and Josip Broz (better known as Tito)."

 

Donald Trump releases video showing him with a Nobel Peace Prize, despite never winning one - Bulletin Mail

[candide]

15 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

Meanwhile, when not screwing the people and playing golf, Trump continues to act as if the election will be re-run, by releasing a campaign style video, which claims he won the Nobel Peace Prize.  And people accuse Biden of having dementia.

 

To be fair, Trump was nominated for the prize, but, as the article mentions, so too were:

"Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Rafael Trjillo, Benito Mussolini, and Josip Broz (better known as Tito)."

 

Donald Trump releases video showing him with a Nobel Peace Prize, despite never winning one - Bulletin Mail

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[Sujo]

So with 4 years in office he has spent 1 year of it on the golf course.