Swede escapes serious injury in high-speed collision on bypass road

[webfact]

Swede escapes serious injury in high-speed collision on bypass road

By The Phuket News

 

The high-speed accident occurred on the bypass road yesterday (Jan 7). Photo: Eakkapop Thongtub

 

PHUKET: A Swedish man escaped serious injury when his car was struck by an Isuzu MU-X SUV travelling at high speed on the bypass road yesterday (Jan 7), ramming the Swedish man’s car into a truck parked by the side of the road.

 

Capt Wirote Pornprapreuk, the Phuket City Police officer assigned to investigate the accident, has consistently not answered calls and not replied to any queries from The Phuket News.

 

However, Capt Panthong Ponsongkram also of the Phuket City Police was willing to share details of the accident he is aware of.

 

Full story: https://www.thephuketnews.com/swede-escapes-serious-injury-in-high-speed-collision-on-bypass-road-78590.php

 

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[2long]

That'll polish out. Don't be such a baby!

In all seriousness, that guy needs to buy a lottery ticket and the MU-7 driver needs to go to jail!

[NCC1701A]

Hulk smash!

[Pilotman]

45 minutes ago, 2long said:

That'll polish out. Don't be such a baby!

In all seriousness, that guy needs to buy a lottery ticket and the MU-7 driver needs to go to jail!

That made me laugh. 

[pagallim]

Having watched a car cam video of this, it was the Swede who was at fault.   He had made a U Turn and crossed left from the filter lane on the right, directly in front of the Isuzu which was in the middle lane.   The Isuzu was bounced into the right lane, in front of the black Yaris.   Neither the Isuzu or Yaris could have avoided the collisions.

[topt]

2 minutes ago, pagallim said:

Having watched a car cam video of this, it was the Swede who was at fault.   He had made a U Turn and crossed left from the filter lane on the right, directly in front of the Isuzu which was in the middle lane.   The Isuzu was bounced into the right lane, in front of the black Yaris.   Neither the Isuzu or Yaris could have avoided the collisions.

Even the linked article suggested the Swede pulled out. Perhaps @2long didn't bother to read that bit...............

[Crossy]

It's ok, he's The Stig ???? 

 

"The Swedish man, who he named as Stig"

[Crossy]

1 hour ago, pagallim said:

Having watched a car cam video of this, it was the Swede who was at fault.   

 

Is the video online? Got a link?

[pagallim]

5 hours ago, Crossy said:

 

Is the video online? Got a link?

It was a Facebook post in the Phuket Newshawk group.   Two videos, one each from both directions.

[Bob12345]

16 hours ago, pagallim said:

Having watched a car cam video of this, it was the Swede who was at fault.   He had made a U Turn and crossed left from the filter lane on the right, directly in front of the Isuzu which was in the middle lane.   The Isuzu was bounced into the right lane, in front of the black Yaris.   Neither the Isuzu or Yaris could have avoided the collisions.

Strange as there are extra lanes reserved there to make the u-turn easy: there is no need to wait and no need to ever come into the next lane.

 

The Swede must have been driving really badly for thus to happen.

[greenmonkey]

Here is the link. I agree - the Swede is to blame, don't know what he was thinking making that manoeuvre when cars were approaching so fast... and to then go across lanes... well it was always going to end badly. I did think the black car on the right hand lane could have avoided any collision by simply braking a lot quicker but they seemed to not react at all until the white 4x4 got bumped into their lane.

 

https://www.facebook.com/100058926896001/videos/118621130112116

[Martin71]

Just watched the video...looks like the Swede was driving like a turnip.

[Alotoftravel]

The Isuzu cannot avoid it 

[Natai Beach]

21 hours ago, 2long said:

That'll polish out. Don't be such a baby!

In all seriousness, that guy needs to buy a lottery ticket and the MU-7 driver needs to go to jail!

 

 

A classic example of the farang apologist, even when it is clear that the farang caused this. 

Send the Thai to jail??????

[transam]

A perfect example of daft U-turn junctions on fast roads....

[PETERTHEEATER]

Looks like the Swede has a turnip on his shoulders.

[Natai Beach]

On 1/8/2021 at 3:33 PM, webfact said:

Swede escapes serious injury in high-speed collision on bypass road

 

But four Thais had to go to hospital, including a 5 year old child, and one Thai is still in hospital and two Thai cars wrecked and lives seriously inconvenienced. 
 

But thank God the idiot Swede who caused it ok. 
 

 

[wprime]

On 1/9/2021 at 9:47 AM, Bob12345 said:

Strange as there are extra lanes reserved there to make the u-turn easy: there is no need to wait and no need to ever come into the next lane.

 

The Swede must have been driving really badly for thus to happen.

 

Not that strange, nobody here knows how to use those u-turn lanes. They always take it wide like the vios driver did in the video.

 

 

[soi3eddie]

Thankfully no fatalities here. I watched the video a few times. My point of view is that there were 3 factors here involving 3 vehicles:

 

1) U-turning white car turned and cut across approaching vehicles

2) White SUV was going much faster than the car with the dashcam - possibly way too fast for the situation. Speed limit would have been 80kmh (50mph) or less there?

3) The black car went straight on from the U-turn lane driving over the hatch marks when he should have U-turned. He seemed to be going too fast too and did not anticipate the consequences of the collision in front of him before rear ending the white SUV.

 

The dashcam car seemed to avoid any of the collisions though. As is often the case, no single cause but a combination of factors. Inattention, poor decision making and speed to blame here. I'd say probably a case for prosecuting all three drivers however impossible to prove speeding - the dashcam had no GPS speed data so hard to tell how fast they were going. All in all a real mess and lots of accusations for those involved to fight over. Good reason to drive carefully, don't speed and keep your wits about you (particularly near U-turns).

 

Edited January 10, 2021 by soi3eddie

[Bob12345]

23 hours ago, greenmonkey said:

Here is the link. I agree - the Swede is to blame, don't know what he was thinking making that manoeuvre when cars were approaching so fast... and to then go across lanes... well it was always going to end badly. I did think the black car on the right hand lane could have avoided any collision by simply braking a lot quicker but they seemed to not react at all until the white 4x4 got bumped into their lane.

 

https://www.facebook.com/100058926896001/videos/118621130112116

Thanks for the link, while it is clear the Swede was at fault, I must add that also the white MuX and the black car behind it were at fault also. Both were driving in the u-turn lane and crossed a solid line and a crossed out block on the road. These people were also speeding as the maximum speed on bypass road is 50km/h and they were clearly going faster than that. Possibly the Swede moved to the middle lane as the white car was coming at high speed in the wrong lane at him?

 

Below a screenshot of the video clearly showing the white MuX driving in the u-turn lane and crossing the solid line (illegal):

 

 

And below a screenshot from the video showing the black Pajero (?) coming up on the right (you can just see the bonnet of the car) while that is not a lane for passing and he is clearly going over the "crossed out block" (illegal).

 

 

Happy nobody got seriously injured and i hope all 3 drivers learned a lesson as they were all at fault!

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, Bob12345 said:

Thanks for the link, while it is clear the Swede was at fault, I must add that also the white MuX and the black car behind it were at fault also. Both were driving in the u-turn lane and crossed a solid line and a crossed out block on the road. These people were also speeding as the maximum speed on bypass road is 50km/h and they were clearly going faster than that. Possibly the Swede moved to the middle lane as the white car was coming at high speed in the wrong lane at him?

 

Below a screenshot of the video clearly showing the white MuX driving in the u-turn lane and crossing the solid line (illegal):

 

And below a screenshot from the video showing the black Pajero (?) coming up on the right (you can just see the bonnet of the car) while that is not a lane for passing and he is clearly going over the "crossed out block" (illegal).

<snip>

The road setup is really, really bad there, with through lanes suddenly changing into U-turns or stopping. People have to switch lanes there.

 

Speedlimit is over 50 there, just not sure if it is 80 or 90.

[transam]

I think the U-turn road layout markings are confusing....

Where I am the U-turn has a catch lane on the far left, meaning, a slow moving U-turn ride can dash into that far left lane so faster moving traffic can pass and the slow ride can build up speed to join the carriage way.

From what I see, the U-turn markings tell the U-Turn driver to stay in the fast lane because oncoming traffic have been told to stay on the left.

So, it is a daft road layout that caused the accident, the Swede did what we all normally do and dive off to the far side catch lane, the Isuzu did what he thought he should do, the black ride was being a bit of a tool not understanding the strange road markings......

 

 

 

 

Edited January 10, 2021 by metisdead
Trolling image removed.

[greenmonkey]

4 minutes ago, Bob12345 said:

Thanks for the link, while it is clear the Swede was at fault, I must add that also the white MuX and the black car behind it were at fault also. Both were driving in the u-turn lane and crossed a solid line and a crossed out block on the road. These people were also speeding as the maximum speed on bypass road is 50km/h and they were clearly going faster than that. Possibly the Swede moved to the middle lane as the white car was coming at high speed in the wrong lane at him?

 

Below a screenshot of the video clearly showing the white MuX driving in the u-turn lane and crossing the solid line (illegal):

 

 

And below a screenshot from the video showing the black Pajero (?) coming up on the right (you can just see the bonnet of the car) while that is not a lane for passing and he is clearly going over the "crossed out block" (illegal).

 

 

Happy nobody got seriously injured and i hope all 3 drivers learned a lesson as they were all at fault!

Yep - i think we would all agree with these points. But here's the thing - when driving in Thailand you HAVE to assume that the other drivers (Thai's mostly) will not be taking any of these factors into account and therefore you MUST factor this into your driving.

 

I think this example clearly shows the dangers of Thai roads. All collisions and road accidents here are hugely magnified here because a) Thai's drive at very high speeds b) they have no concept of braking distances c) they don't seem to react to any possible dangers until it is way too late.

 

Which all means a fairl

3 minutes ago, transam said:

I think the U-turn road layout markings are confusing....

Where I am the U-turn has a catch lane on the far left, meaning, a slow moving U-turn ride can dash into that far left lane so faster moving traffic can pass and the slow ride can build up speed to join the carriage way.

From what I see, the U-turn markings tell the U-Turn driver to stay in the fast lane because oncoming traffic have been told to stay on the left.

So, it is a daft road layout that caused the accident, the Swede did what we all normally do and dive off to the far side catch lane, the Isuzu did what he thought he should do, the black ride was being a bit of a tool not understanding the strange road markings......

 

 

 

Agreed. The markings are very dangerous.

 

[Bob12345]

6 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Speedlimit is over 50 there, just not sure if it is 80 or 90.

Are you sure? I rive there daily and see only signs telling me the speed limit is 50. 

Below a screenshot from google earth of the EXACT SPOT where it happened... what you think the speed limit is when you see this picture (hint: look at the left of the picture) ?

 

[Bob12345]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

I think the U-turn road layout markings are confusing....

Where I am the U-turn has a catch lane on the far left, meaning, a slow moving U-turn ride can dash into that far left lane so faster moving traffic can pass and the slow ride can build up speed to join the carriage way.

From what I see, the U-turn markings tell the U-Turn driver to stay in the fast lane because oncoming traffic have been told to stay on the left.

So, it is a daft road layout that caused the accident, the Swede did what we all normally do and dive off to the far side catch lane, the Isuzu did what he thought he should do, the black ride was being a bit of a tool not understanding the strange road markings......

 

The marking on the road are pretty clear, see picture below:

 

 

Everybody should stay in their own lane and motorbikes on the most left lane need to merge into what was before the middle/left lane.

 

But i agree the design is absolutely absurd... there is a shoulder lane for motorbikes but that lane disappears all of a sudden and motorbikes (some going maybe 30km/h) need to share a lane with cars going much faster. At this spot a barely see anyone going into the u-turn lane, and at the next u-turn on this road they placed cones so you need to follow the correct lane or crash your car. Going the other way is even worse where there is a lane that is too small for normal cars and everybody starts moving into the middle lane (including slow lorries). It looks like someone designed this road based on how it should be, not based on if it also fits in the space available. Absurd.

[Bob12345]

2 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

I'd say probably a case for prosecuting all three drivers however impossible to prove speeding - the dashcam had no GPS speed data so hard to tell how fast they were going.

Not needed, based on the dashcam footage you know how long it took for the car to go from one point on the road to the next (you can count the exact number of frames in the video) and you can go to that spot and measure how many meters there are between the two spots you pick to calculate the speed. Some simple math and you know the speed pretty accurately.

[soi3eddie]

11 minutes ago, Bob12345 said:

Not needed, based on the dashcam footage you know how long it took for the car to go from one point on the road to the next (you can count the exact number of frames in the video) and you can go to that spot and measure how many meters there are between the two spots you pick to calculate the speed. Some simple math and you know the speed pretty accurately.

 

Agreed. From posts above the speed limit is 50kmh (30mph) so it's very clear from the footage and the carnage that the white SUV and the black car were definitely speeding. I guess a confirmed speed would be needed to prosecute though.

 

[schlog]

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

The road setup is really, really bad there, with through lanes suddenly changing into U-turns or stopping. People have to switch lanes there.

 

Speedlimit is over 50 there, just not sure if it is 80 or 90.

It's 90. Speedcams taking pics over 120.

[stevenl]

4 hours ago, Bob12345 said:

Are you sure? I rive there daily and see only signs telling me the speed limit is 50. 

Below a screenshot from google earth of the EXACT SPOT where it happened... what you think the speed limit is when you see this picture (hint: look at the left of the picture) ?

 

Yes, sure.

 

Long time ago there was a story in one of the Phuket media, maybe Phuket Wan?, where the person responsible said 'speed limit is 80 (or 90, I don't remember), but we still had these 50 signs so we put up these in stead'.

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

 

Agreed. From posts above the speed limit is 50kmh (30mph) so it's very clear from the footage and the carnage that the white SUV and the black car were definitely speeding. I guess a confirmed speed would be needed to prosecute though.

 

Speed limit there is not 50, but 80 or 90, just confirmed by someone else it is 90.