Just now, Surelynot said:

Agree......and 40 years of outlandish, jingoistic drivel from the Express, Mail and Telegraph doesn't help!!!! 

Its just that your politicians tried to blame their own incompetence on the EU. I hardly see the EU in such a negative light in my country. I mean the agreements are first  discussed and negotiated by members of your own country. So if you get bad results, don't blame the EU blame your negotiation tactics. 

 

Last negative news was about COVID loans and the southern slacker countries. Our PM did not get exactly what he wanted but he got a rebate so we wonb te paying for it did get some other agreements. But we knew he was not going to get everything he wanted. There was a lot of press coverage and in the end the PM did not blame the EU just told us this was the best he could do. That is how you should report news. 

 

Brits seem to have totally done things differently and seem to have put all blame on the EU. The pro EU folk never thought it would come back to bite them in the ass. They only thought that its better to blame the EU then to take own responsibility. I can get that anti EU parties would always blame it on the EU, but its just stupid that those that were pro EU were so scared of admitting fault or explaining things in a good way the anti EU sentiment only rose.

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Could you give me some examples about your PM being on the world stage ? I mean Economic power wise its outclassed by Germany (easily). And Germany does not even rate high. Now that BJ is alone his world stage appearances will only become less. I

 

And yes they all walked out to take responsibility. Something I seldom see with Brit politicians. They hang on to power like Trump. If you think its bad to accept faults and take responsibility then why do you even want to live in a democracy.

 

If my country had excited the EU with the track record your had it would have taken responsibility and stopped too. But then again my goverment would never be so stupid as to leave the EU.

There ya go, you and your money thing, your life revolves around money, nothing else.

 

Perhaps your lot capitulated cos they don't know what they are doing, looks like it.

 

Anyhooo, so you agree about our fantastic track record, and your country needing the EU to lean on, well done..

 

Oh, our country had a democratic vote, a vote put to the people, that vote was eventually honoured, the UK is free of EU shackles, the future beckons, and so does yours.......

 

It is time for you, a Dutch bloke, to stop worrying about the UK's future, stay focused on your own country, and it's governments failure....????

 

7 minutes ago, transam said:

There ya go, you and your money thing, your life revolves around money, nothing else.

 

Perhaps your lot capitulated cos they don't know what they are doing, looks like it.

 

Anyhooo, so you agree about our fantastic track record, and your country needing the EU to lean on, well done..

 

Oh, our country had a democratic vote, a vote put to the people, that vote was eventually honoured, the UK is free of EU shackles, the future beckons, and so does yours.......

 

It is time for you, a Dutch bloke, to stop worrying about the UK's future, stay focused on your own country, and it's governments failure....????

 

I believe, correct me if I am wrong, topics opened for discussion on TVF are open to all members regardless of their nationality.

 

That a petty nationalist ignores that fact and attacks other members on the basis of their nationality is no surprise at all.

43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I believe, correct me if I am wrong, topics opened for discussion on TVF are open to all members regardless of their nationality.

 

That a petty nationalist ignores that fact and attacks other members on the basis of their nationality is no surprise at all.

1. Correct.....

2. I was not talking to you, I was REPLYING to another with my points. So.....????

3. So it's alright for you and your click to daily trash my country, but when another's country is mentioned, it's wrong, typical remainer attitude...????.

 

15 minutes ago, transam said:

1. Correct.....

2. I was not talking to you, I was REPLYING to another with my points. So.....????

3. So it's alright for you and your click to daily trash my country, but when another's country is mentioned, it's wrong, typical remainer attitude...????.

 

Its a public forum. If you want it private then do so by pm. 

 

I have no issue with anyone trashing my country, especially when its well deserved.

 

The topic is not about another country.

9 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Its a public forum. If you want it private then do so by pm. 

 

I have no issue with anyone trashing my country, especially when its well deserved.

 

The topic is not about another country.

You also miss my point, plus I was not replying to you either....????

 

19 minutes ago, transam said:

You also miss my point, plus I was not replying to you either....????

 

Didnt know your posts were not to be read under national security issues.

 

Now, back to how the uk has stuffed up brexit and blames everyone else for their own incompetence.

 

It was all supposed to be so easy and much better.

54 minutes ago, transam said:

1. Correct.....

2. I was not talking to you, I was REPLYING to another with my points. So.....????

3. So it's alright for you and your click to daily trash my country, but when another's country is mentioned, it's wrong, typical remainer attitude...????.

 

Your acceptance of 1. ‘Correct’ negates your response 2, and your response 3, is the usual emotive nonsense that neglects the evidence that it is ‘Brexit’ that is trashing the UK.

 

 

31 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your acceptance of 1. ‘Correct’ negates your response 2, and your response 3, is the usual emotive nonsense that neglects the evidence that it is ‘Brexit’ that is trashing the UK.

 

 

Says a remainer who doesn't understand that there are no longer any remainers, just a free United Kingdom..

 

Just now, transam said:

Says a remainer who doesn't understand that there are no longer any remainers, just a free United Kingdom..

 

If there are no longer any ‘Remainers’ how then can I be a ‘Remainer’?

 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If there are no longer any ‘Remainers’ how then can I be a ‘Remainer’?

 

There are no UK remainers, just a few on here that we call remainers because they are still weeping, stomping, digging up anything daily, but, on the whole it's good fun, as I am sure you enjoy every minute doing your thing.........????

Don't you just hate these Remainers.......whinging and whining....we have left....got over it and get on with it.

 

"Writing in the Daily Telegraph, the country’s first minister Arlene Fostersaid the Northern Ireland Protocol “needs to be replaced” and urged Boris Johnson to take actions to that effect.

 

Ian Paisley Jr, another DUP politician, told the BBC on Wednesday evening that the 34 days since the end of the Brexit transition period have been an “unmitigated disaster” for Northern Ireland".

I thought all the traders were instructed to throw any such paperwork straight in the bin?....Oh! I see.. That was another lie!!

7 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Don't you just hate these Remainers.......whinging and whining....we have left....got over it and get on with it.

 

"Writing in the Daily Telegraph, the country’s first minister Arlene Fostersaid the Northern Ireland Protocol “needs to be replaced” and urged Boris Johnson to take actions to that effect.

 

Ian Paisley Jr, another DUP politician, told the BBC on Wednesday evening that the 34 days since the end of the Brexit transition period have been an “unmitigated disaster” for Northern Ireland".

I am glad you pointed out "just" 34 days, it really does just point out it is early days in our move to once again being free from those across the channel. Like most big issues it takes time to sort initial problems...Chin up chap, the UK will prevail.... 

Erosion of confidence in the UK post Brexit.

 

11 hours ago, Sujo said:

Uk so ill prepared they want another 2 years. So brexit not as good as some think it is. But it seems as bad as most said it would be.

 

Ironically a large portion  of the aging demographic that rallied to the polls to make this happen will be dead and never need through the effects. 

1 hour ago, n00dle said:

 

Ironically a large portion  of the aging demographic that rallied to the polls to make this happen will be dead and never need through the effects. 

A very sad truth.

7 hours ago, transam said:

weeping, stomping, digging up anything daily, but, on the whole it's good fun

When I type “Brexit” into Google News, I see “weeping” and “stomping”: Your fishermen. Your lorry drivers. Your logistics industry. Your exporters. Your financial services industry. Your musicians. Your culture minister. Your government. 
 

Good fun indeed ???? 

3 hours ago, n00dle said:

 

Ironically a large portion  of the aging demographic that rallied to the polls to make this happen will be dead and never need through the effects. 

 

I wondered what happened to the old Morbid Report.

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

When I type “Brexit” into Google News, I see “weeping” and “stomping”: Your fishermen. Your lorry drivers. Your logistics industry. Your exporters. Your financial services industry. Your musicians. Your culture minister. Your government. 
 

Good fun indeed ???? 

 

Less of the old ham sandwich?

6 hours ago, bannork said:

Erosion of confidence in the UK post Brexit.

 

 

This immediate dramatic process is actually the final stage of weathering. It has been ongoing in this location for thousands of years, long before the EU was spawned.

 

Whatever, to me it's a shame that you seem to promote the idea of the actual destruction of England and the UK.  

11 hours ago, Sujo said:

 

I have no issue with anyone trashing my country, especially when its well deserved.

You’d have to admit to what it is, then we’ll have a go for you. 

On 2/2/2021 at 3:01 AM, bkkcanuck8 said:

I doubt the UK will rejoin in a few years... unless there is clear support from a broad range of people and politicians... Even then, there will be no appetite to go through this again with the UK... so it will be a long drawn out process if the UK ever does want to rejoin...  The UK will just have to learn how to adjust for the foreseeable future...

 

That ship has sailed. The vaccine fiasco just finalised that. 

 

The economy of the UK will have to change - but it will take time. 

4 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

This immediate dramatic process is actually the final stage of weathering. It has been ongoing in this location for thousands of years, long before the EU was spawned.

 

Whatever, to me it's a shame that you seem to promote the idea of the actual destruction of England and the UK.  

Come on nauseus, it's a clear sign that Old Blighty herself opposes Brexit when her very own symbol of hope in the dark days of WW 2 crumbles before our very eyes.

Repent before it's too late. Admit it was all a big mistake and join Michael Gove in  begging for the grace period to be extended until 2023 or perhaps forever.

 

10 minutes ago, transam said:

I reckon it was the same in 1939, but we eventually prevailed,  so calm down chap, lets get on with it. ..

 

More of your WW2 jingoistic nonsense.

 

And once again, on what basis do you claim ‘we prevailed’?

 

You had no part in any of it, beyond perhaps watching a load of old black and white war movies while growing up.

7 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Less of the old ham sandwich?

Right, I forgot you were also “weeping” and “stomping” about the ham sandwich. 

18 minutes ago, transam said:

I reckon it was the same in 1939, but we eventually prevailed,  so calm down chap, lets get on with it. ..

 

What a great success story Brexit must be when you have to cling to WWII references ???? 

Will hear the next woes from companies having to re-register all their products again to conform with health, environment, safety EU standards. 

19 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

What a great success story Brexit must be when you have to cling to WWII references ???? 

But there again you could argue that without the success of WW2 there would have been no Brexit, instead we would all be walking around in lederhosen whistling 'Tomorrow Belongs to Me' or Schone Maid by the charismatic Tony Marshall. So there again maybe Brexit is not so bad after all.????????????

47 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

More of your WW2 jingoistic nonsense.

 

And once again, on what basis do you claim ‘we prevailed’?

 

You had no part in any of it, beyond perhaps watching a load of old black and white war movies while growing up.

You call it nonsense, I call it dealing with those across the channel, which the UK has had plenty of practice with. I am sorry you don't like it, but then I don't like your anti-Brit stance.

 

"We", means my United Kingdom, if you don't like it, it is because of your anti-Brit stance.

 

Obviously I had no part in it, there are very few left to talk about it, but once again it is your anti-Brit stance regarding me mentioning it.

Yes, as a kid I bought many war comics, and watched the films, great stuff.

I can show you a pic of my R.S.M. dad if you like, in Egypt, circa 1943, I think........