Are Brass Knuckles legal to own in Thailand?

[Wuvu2]

Does anyone know if Brass Knuckles are legal to own in Thailand? I saw some for sale in an outdoor market and was a bit surprised. 

[Andy from Kent]

 

Without having specifically read  of any prohibition I believe almost all self defense weapons used by falangs in Thailand are illegal.

 

I'd be curious to hear of any that are legal.

[CharlieH]

Whilst I cannot quote a law, I believe they are classed as an offensive weapon and like many things inThailand it would depend entirely on the Officer stood in front of you at the time as to what may follow. Personally, if you want them, dont carry it or let it be seen being worn in a public place would be my advice.

[foreverlomsak]

1 hour ago, Wuvu2 said:

Does anyone know if Brass Knuckles are legal to own in Thailand? I saw some for sale in an outdoor market and was a bit surprised. 

Own probably yes, carry or wear probably no, use probably a definite no/no, this is Thailand so laws are subject to interpretation.

[impulse]

You can buy lots of stuff in Thailand that will get you arrested 50 meters down the road if you're caught carrying them.

 

Brass knuckles are one of them.  Pepper spray is another.  Same with swords.  I bought a couple of high power pellet rifles in a wide open Chinatown market, only later finding out that they were illegal for me to own because they fired metal projectiles.  I gave them away when I found out they were classed as firearms and I had no permit to own them.  (I kept the pepper spray)

 

Brass knuckles have no other purpose than as a weapon.  Unlike, for examples, a machete or a baseball bat.  That puts them in a special class of weapons in Thailand.  (There have been lots of threads about the topic, but most lost to the search function during one of the many TVF format changes)

 

You can probably mount them in a frame on your wall, but I certainly wouldn't carry them where I was tempted to pull them out.  I wouldn't do well in a Thai jail...  And why risk deportation?

 

[Dagfinnur Traustason]

8 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Whilst I cannot quote a law, I believe they are classed as an offensive weapon and like many things inThailand it would depend entirely on the Officer stood in front of you at the time as to what may follow. Personally, if you want them, dont carry it or let it be seen being worn in a public place would be my advice.

What would be the reason for buying a pair of brass knuckles and then not carry them? It´s not like they are antiques. ????

And no, it is not legal to walk around with anything that can be taken for a weapon of any kind in Thailand without having a licence to carry such. As you can not get a license for brass knuckles it will be deemed illigal according to the law.

[KarenBravo]

Just use two rolls of 10 Bt coins.

[Falcon]

On 2/21/2021 at 5:41 AM, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

What would be the reason for buying a pair of brass knuckles and then not carry them? It´s not like they are antiques. ????

And no, it is not legal to walk around with anything that can be taken for a weapon of any kind in Thailand without having a licence to carry such. As you can not get a license for brass knuckles it will be deemed illigal according to the law.

What a strange statement to make. If you so desire, anything can be said to be a weapon that is being carried. A pen or a pencil can be deemed a weapon, as Can a metal ruler. Or similar objects. In fact, a simple coin could be said to be able to be used as a weapon if you have the intention to use it that way. The simple answer to the one asked in the OP is that it depends on the person stopping the carrier if such “weapons” and their interpretation of what it’s being used for. Suffice to say that it’s a lot easier to strengthen the knuckles rather than to wear brass knuckles so that your hands won’t be so damaged if trouble ever comes your way and you need to defend yourself. Besides that, hitting anything whilst wearing the brass knuckles often breaks the fingers as they cut in to the skin and, depending on how hard you punch, can generate the wrong king of force back in to the hands.

[LennyW]

13 minutes ago, Falcon said:

What a strange statement to make. If you so desire, anything can be said to be a weapon that is being carried. A pen or a pencil can be deemed a weapon, as Can a metal ruler. Or similar objects. In fact, a simple coin could be said to be able to be used as a weapon if you have the intention to use it that way. The simple answer to the one asked in the OP is that it depends on the person stopping the carrier if such “weapons” and their interpretation of what it’s being used for. Suffice to say that it’s a lot easier to strengthen the knuckles rather than to wear brass knuckles so that your hands won’t be so damaged if trouble ever comes your way and you need to defend yourself. Besides that, hitting anything whilst wearing the brass knuckles often breaks the fingers as they cut in to the skin and, depending on how hard you punch, can generate the wrong king of force back in to the hands.

Not the same, a pen, pencil, ruler, coin as you quote have legitimate uses other than as weapons, a set of brass knuckles does not - a weapon, nothing else, no grey area!

[Asquith Production]

46 minutes ago, LennyW said:

Not the same, a pen, pencil, ruler, coin as you quote have legitimate uses other than as weapons, a set of brass knuckles does not - a weapon, nothing else, no grey area!

That's why I carry a torch around with me. Always have done. It as come in very handy when the lights go out here  and once in the shopping mall here.  It can be used to temporay blind someone because it as a high intensity strobe and steady light of 1800 lumen. In the dark an 80 lumen is sufficient to temporary blind someone and over 200 lumen during the day. So would give you a little time to get away and also attract attention from passers by. You wont cause permanent inury to anyone. If stopped by Police its just a torch.

[klauskunkel]

1 hour ago, Falcon said:

What a strange statement to make. If you so desire, anything can be said to be a weapon that is being carried. A pen or a pencil can be deemed a weapon, as Can a metal ruler. Or similar objects. In fact, a simple coin could be said to be able to be used as a weapon if you have the intention to use it that way. The simple answer to the one asked in the OP is that it depends on the person stopping the carrier if such “weapons” and their interpretation of what it’s being used for. Suffice to say that it’s a lot easier to strengthen the knuckles rather than to wear brass knuckles so that your hands won’t be so damaged if trouble ever comes your way and you need to defend yourself. Besides that, hitting anything whilst wearing the brass knuckles often breaks the fingers as they cut in to the skin and, depending on how hard you punch, can generate the wrong king of force back in to the hands.

I saw Vin Diesel kill somebody with a teacup! 

[Aomelia]

I heard 100baht fine for pepper spray and knuckles 

[PatOngo]

On 2/21/2021 at 6:44 AM, KarenBravo said:

Just use two rolls of 10 Bt coins.

Just stay out of trouble!!!

[Asquith Production]

18 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

Just stay out of trouble!!!

Unfortunately trouble can look for you no matter what your intentions are.

[rwill]

vibrators and e-cigarettes are illegal too but I have seen them for sale on sidewalks in Bangkok.

[rwill]

On 2/20/2021 at 2:44 PM, KarenBravo said:

Just use two rolls of 10 Bt coins.

 

33 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

Just stay out of trouble!!!

or carry an old crusty Patongo

[new2here]

As one might suspect, as I read the Arms Control Act (BE 2530) Chapter 1, Section 7, it reads in part:

 

”Section 7. The Minister with approval of the Council of Ministers shall have the power to publish in the Government Gazette the Notification prescribing weapons, weapons accessories, chemical substances, biological substances, radioactive substances or devices or instruments which may be used in combat or warfare to be arms.”

 

Therefore it reads to me, that the Minister has very, very wide discretion to dictate exactly what is and is not a weapon .. and need not explicitly name each and every item by a specific name, but may use the items inherent characteristics.

 

As such, Id take position that “brass knuckles” would be classed as a “arms” thus be subject to the Act.

[varun]

Just become something is freely available in Thailand does not necessarily mean it is legal.

It means 'mai pen rai'

[Pilotman]

Do you have someone in mind to use them on? If you were stupid enough to ever use them, you will, I have no doubt at all,   get banged up for a very long time. 

[tifino]

having a determined will to find some lateral thinking legitimacy for anything...   ????  

[Falcon]

10 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

I saw Vin Diesel kill somebody with a teacup! 

There you are then, assault with a deadly teacup ????

[BusyB]

11 hours ago, Asquith Production said:

That's why I carry a torch around with me. Always have done. It as come in very handy when the lights go out here  and once in the shopping mall here.  It can be used to temporay blind someone because it as a high intensity strobe and steady light of 1800 lumen. In the dark an 80 lumen is sufficient to temporary blind someone and over 200 lumen during the day. So would give you a little time to get away and also attract attention from passers by. You wont cause permanent inury to anyone. If stopped by Police its just a torch.

 

I'm sure you can quite legally carry a long, heavy rubber torch under your car seat as well.

????

[tifino]

28 minutes ago, Falcon said:

10 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

I saw Vin Diesel kill somebody with a teacup! 

There you are then, assault with a deadly teacup ????

maybe he took a Pot shot? 

[ivor bigun]

To be honest if your knuckles are that hard and stiff i would see a doctor ,that or soak them in oil it must be so uncomfortable to have brass knuckles.

[Neeranam]

I was thinking of buying a gun, after some road rage with a nutter. 

[Nout]

Why surprised? All kinds of weapons are for sale in Thailand including knuckle dusters. But that does not mean they are legal.

[Nout]

3 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

To be honest if your knuckles are that hard and stiff i would see a doctor ,that or soak them in oil it must be so uncomfortable to have brass knuckles.

He means what the British call knuckle dusters. 

[Nout]

On 2/21/2021 at 5:41 AM, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

What would be the reason for buying a pair of brass knuckles and then not carry them? It´s not like they are antiques. ????

And no, it is not legal to walk around with anything that can be taken for a weapon of any kind in Thailand without having a licence to carry such. As you can not get a license for brass knuckles it will be deemed illigal according to the law.

You keep them at home till you need them, presumably.

[Nout]

16 hours ago, Falcon said:

What a strange statement to make. If you so desire, anything can be said to be a weapon that is being carried. A pen or a pencil can be deemed a weapon, as Can a metal ruler. Or similar objects. In fact, a simple coin could be said to be able to be used as a weapon if you have the intention to use it that way. The simple answer to the one asked in the OP is that it depends on the person stopping the carrier if such “weapons” and their interpretation of what it’s being used for. Suffice to say that it’s a lot easier to strengthen the knuckles rather than to wear brass knuckles so that your hands won’t be so damaged if trouble ever comes your way and you need to defend yourself. Besides that, hitting anything whilst wearing the brass knuckles often breaks the fingers as they cut in to the skin and, depending on how hard you punch, can generate the wrong king of force back in to the hands.

Nah. Depends the way you hold them ...the back cushioned against heel of your hand so they protrude and are not flush with the knuckles. With 'knucks' you need a lot less force....or so I have read.

[Bday Prang]

A somewhat pointless question, people who carry such  "equipment" are hardly going to worry about the legality of it, or indeed the legality of the results that will inevitably ensue should it be used for the intended purpose,  The keyboard warriors of Thai Visa would be better advised to continue using the  CAPITAL LETTERS KEY