George Floyd's family receives $27 million settlement from Minneapolis over his death

[DefaultName]

This man was a thorough bad 'un, to others and to his family.  The world is better off without him.  But.  As a representative of the city, he killed when he didn't have to.  it's only right that that the city pays.  Unfortunately, lawyers will get the lions share one way or another.

[sirocco]

Before posting anything, you should learn about the life of this "perfect giant" loved by those around him, from the age of 17 until his death.
Very, very beautiful course to take as an example. 

[donnacha]

5 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

That the city and their insurance carriers are offering $27 m now means, well the obvious...they expect they'd have to pay more later.

I think it is the opposite in this case. The city know that it is going to be very hard to make a murder charge stick in the criminal case, even if every member of the jury wants to punish Chauvin. The prosecutor, under obvious political pressures, aimed a little too high in setting the charges.

An acquittal in the criminal case will obviously lead to extreme public anger and violence. So, the city have pre-empted that by making an astonishingly high civil settlement to insulate their administration and their own political careers from the likely blowback. 

In normal circumstances, it would be very difficult to pin any civil liability on the taxpayer because of the astonishing levels of fentanyl in his system and his career as a violent criminal. Even in these highly-politicized circumstances, and even though the burden of evidence is far lower in a civil case, if the city had mounted even a basic defense, any award would have been limited to around a million. The figure of $27 m was carefully chosen to be both an offer the family couldn't refuse AND a big enough sacrifice to shield the city administration from the coming storm.

Bear in mind that the "mostly peaceful protests" last summer caused $2 billion in direct damage, $500 m of that in Minneapolis alone, 19 deaths, and contributed at least partly to the US having among the worst Coronavirus statistics in the world, which will ultimately cost trillions. The Biden administration are extremely eager to avoid a replay of that and will have made that abundantly clear to their party colleagues in Minneapolis.
 

Edited March 13, 2021 by donnacha

[jayceenik]

 This 2017 Black Somali cop killing a White woman didn't get much MSM interest then  Totally forgotten today... 

On July 15, 2017, Justine Damond (née Ruszczyk) a 40-year-old Australian-American woman, was fatally shot by 33-year-old Minneapolis Police Department officer Mohamed Noor (a Somali) after she had called 9-1-1 to report the possible assault of a woman in an alley behind her house.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/07/ex-minneapolis-cop-sentenced-12-5-years-murder-unarmed-woman/1382798001/

If the present trial ends with "only" a 12.5yr sentence America will explode.

[rcuthbert]

58 minutes ago, donnacha said:

I think it is the opposite in this case. The city know that it is going to be very hard to make a murder charge stick in the criminal case, even if every member of the jury wants to punish Chauvin. The prosecutor, under obvious political pressures, aimed a little too high in setting the charges.

An acquittal in the criminal case will obviously lead to extreme public anger and violence. So, the city have pre-empted that by making an astonishingly high civil settlement to insulate their administration and their own political careers from the likely blowback. 

In normal circumstances, it would be very difficult to pin any civil liability on the taxpayer because of the astonishing levels of fentanyl in his system and his career as a violent criminal. Even in these highly-politicized circumstances, and even though the burden of evidence is far lower in a civil case, if the city had mounted even a basic defense, any award would have been limited to around a million. The figure of $27 m was carefully chosen to be both an offer the family couldn't refuse AND a big enough sacrifice to shield the city administration from the coming storm.

Bear in mind that the "mostly peaceful protests" last summer caused $2 billion in direct damage, $500 m of that in Minneapolis alone, 19 deaths, and contributed at least partly to the US having among the worst Coronavirus statistics in the world, which will ultimately cost trillions. The Biden administration are extremely eager to avoid a replay of that and will have made that abundantly clear to their party colleagues in Minneapolis.
 

Good analysis.

[Maliproto]

7 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Civil settlements often occur after the criminal case(s) are settled. Typically, Not Guilty equals a lower amount, Guilty a higher amount.

That the city and their insurance carriers are offering $27 m now means, well the obvious...they expect they'd have to pay more later.

Justine Diamond's family got $20 m from the city of Minneapolis.

Just think of the improvements Minneapolis could make in policing with $47 m.

The city would not be able to make any improvements with that $47m because, as you said, it's insurer's money that was paid out as a claim, not the city's.

[Maliproto]

6 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

27 million USD is way over the top in my opinion, money like that could go to communities that really need it

The compensation typically is not paid from the city's coffers, it is paid by the city's insurers so it's is not available for community use.

[mikeymike100]

3 hours ago, BTB1977 said:

So that's what a drug addicted combative abusive black man is worth. If he would have followed the police commands (just how hard is that to do?) he would be alive today. 

You are right on the money. Because of this tragedy how many riots ensued and peoples livelihoods lost.

[Maliproto]

3 hours ago, Venom said:

Simply add that to the 27 trillion in deficit and it's all good. ???????? 

Insurance payouts don't get added to the city's, state's or country's deficit.

[spiekerjozef]

It seems like black lives matter quite a lot.

Can we move on now...

[4MyEgo]

1 hour ago, Maliproto said:

The compensation typically is not paid from the city's coffers, it is paid by the city's insurers so it's is not available for community use.

As long as it's not from the pockets of tax payers, I'm good with it, no doubt the taxpayers pay a heft annual fee for the insurers.

[Dap]

7 hours ago, JohnOFphon said:

That's gonna buy a lot of Ripple.

What an A**!

[kdugmore]

George Floyd was a low life piece of s##t. Career criminal and drug abuser, the kind of person who had no problem with punching a pregnant woman in the stomach. Died whilst committing yet another crime, yet again under the influence of, and possession of, illegal drugs. His death was the only good thing to come out of this affair. The fact that his family are now to be rewarded with such an undeserved huge financial pay out is yet another example of the way our society has gone to hell. I hope the policeman gets away with it.

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, jayceenik said:

 This 2017 Black Somali cop killing a White woman didn't get much MSM interest then  Totally forgotten today... 

On July 15, 2017, Justine Damond (née Ruszczyk) a 40-year-old Australian-American woman, was fatally shot by 33-year-old Minneapolis Police Department officer Mohamed Noor (a Somali) after she had called 9-1-1 to report the possible assault of a woman in an alley behind her house.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/07/ex-minneapolis-cop-sentenced-12-5-years-murder-unarmed-woman/1382798001/

If the present trial ends with "only" a 12.5yr sentence America will explode.

It got lots of attention and is far from totally forgotten. It even was mentioned already in this thread.

[sirocco]

Very true, he preyed on vulnerable women, and he beat other pregnant women.
Not to mention his assaults to obtain money or his armed robberies which have earned him prison.
We add drug trafficking, his insults to the police, his refusal to let himself be arrested.
A long quiet river.

[Boomer6969]

4 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

Not accidental. Reckless might be a better description.

Freudian recklessness. A fat white b....d always behaves as such.

R.I.P Brother.

[Lacessit]

55 minutes ago, Maliproto said:

Insurance payouts don't get added to the city's, state's or country's deficit.

It does eventually, in the form of higher premiums.

It's why the US medical system is so expensive. Doctors have to take out millions of dollars worth of professional liability insurance to cover themselves against a malpractice suit, so that gets back to their patients in the form of high fees.

It's why private health insurance in America costs as much for a month as it does for six months in Australia.

Compensation for incidents of police misconduct in Australia rarely reach six figures. There's also the factor police in Australia don't have to wonder if they are going to get shot every time they approach a vehicle they have pulled over. Freedom to bear arms comes with a cost.

It's no accident 10% of the population of Washington, D.C. are lawyers. They are a cost too.

 

 

[Lacessit]

Perhaps this is what every cop in America needs........

[SomchaiCNX]

Ridiculous amount, only in the US? 

[Sujo]

52 minutes ago, sirocco said:

Very true, he preyed on vulnerable women, and he beat other pregnant women.
Not to mention his assaults to obtain money or his armed robberies which have earned him prison.
We add drug trafficking, his insults to the police, his refusal to let himself be arrested.
A long quiet river.

He was arrested and restrained. Police dont decide who should and should not be kilked whilst in their custody.

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, kdugmore said:

George Floyd was a low life piece of s##t. Career criminal and drug abuser, the kind of person who had no problem with punching a pregnant woman in the stomach. Died whilst committing yet another crime, yet again under the influence of, and possession of, illegal drugs. His death was the only good thing to come out of this affair. The fact that his family are now to be rewarded with such an undeserved huge financial pay out is yet another example of the way our society has gone to hell. I hope the policeman gets away with it.

Disgusting post. He was arrested and restrained. He was in police custody and they killed him.

[welshissan]

5 hours ago, Sujo said:

How? He was cuffed on the ground with a knee on his neck. How could he do anything, he couldnt even breathe.

He would be alive today if the officer hadnt decided to suffocate him.

Didn't he die of a drug overdose?

[Bogbrush]

15 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Disgusting post. He was arrested and restrained. He was in police custody and they killed him.

He was a convicted felon with a history of violence and the only possible relationship between him and $27m is (a) the cost of drugs he would’ve snorted during the rest of his life and (b) the cost of keeping him in prison, which is where he would’ve ended up again and again. Died in police custody? Yes (during the commission of yet a further offence) so I think there’s some type of connection between not breaking the law and not dying...

[sirocco]

NO;  SUJO, he had to be brought under control, and when the police tried to put him in the car, he pretended to be claustrophobic.
His death was also due to the fact that he was drugged to death.
Try to subdue a colossus.
Maybe you will need the police someday.
And you'll be glad she comes to save you.
And he was not in custody when the ambulance arrived.
Don't just say anything.

[Scott]

6 hours ago, welshissan said:

Didn't he die of a drug overdose?

No.   There is no evidence that his death was due to drugs.   He was also positive for Covid, and he did not die from Covid.   According to the Medical examiner:

Floyd's death has been ruled a homicide.

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/04/869278494/medical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus

[tgw]

They should have given an objective compensation to the persons the victim was supporting with his income.

I don't quite follow the US logic behind rewarding uninvolved relatives with a jackpot of taxpayer's money.

[John1012]

If I was a person that had suffered from the attentions of George Floyd during his productive and purely honest life, I would be suing the family of this epitome of goodness and  ensuring that I was compensated properly for the injury that I had suffered. Let us see how long 27ml lasts then?

 

[Kenneth White]

27 million...Hum. George Floyd was a drug addict and was using them when arrested. I wonder how this would have played out if only he obeyed the police officers demands. The media won't shine any light on that.

[Sujo]

15 hours ago, sirocco said:

NO;  SUJO, he had to be brought under control, and when the police tried to put him in the car, he pretended to be claustrophobic.
His death was also due to the fact that he was drugged to death.
Try to subdue a colossus.
Maybe you will need the police someday.
And you'll be glad she comes to save you.
And he was not in custody when the ambulance arrived.
Don't just say anything.

When a person is arrested he is in custody.

He is dead because an officer thought it was ok to kneel on his neck for near 9 mins despite another officer having concerns about it.

[Sujo]

7 minutes ago, Kenneth White said:

27 million...Hum. George Floyd was a drug addict and was using them when arrested. I wonder how this would have played out if only he obeyed the police officers demands. The media won't shine any light on that.

Lying on the ground cuffed. What demands was asked of him during those 9 mins?