Beautiful Thai transgender women turn heads at army draft

[webfact]

Picture: Sanook

 

Sanook and other Thai media reported on the selection process for new recruits into the Thai army - and once again the focus was not on the men but the ladyboys!

 

Thai men aged 22-29 are up for selection according to a draw from April 1st to 20th with breaks for Chakri Day on the 6th and Songkran. Hundreds will be process nationwide each day in selection procedures. 

 

Sanook went to Wat Bote district of Phitsanulok in the north of Thailand where all the attention was on several ladyboys the most beautiful of whom was 23 year old Naritsala or "Nong Luuk Men" (baby porcupine)

 

Picture: Sanook

 

She is a model and beauty queen and was fresh from her latest success at a beauty pageant in Phrae. 

 

She was dressed as a university student and explained that she would be unable to join the army this year as she needs to study.

 

She had been several times before to the draft to ask to be excused service.

 

She explained that she has had sex change surgery.

 

However she said that she saw no reason why she and others like her should not be allowed to serve in the army.

 

After all there were female soldiers. 

 

She said that if she is free to serve in the future and if she is allowed to do so she will jump at the chance. 

 

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[yeahbutif]

I thought the call up age was 20.  Not 22. Is this right

Edited April 3, 2021 by yeahbutif

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

However she said that she saw no reason why she and others like her should not be allowed to serve in the army.  After all there were female soldiers. 

He's ignoring the fact that an applicant, or draftee, has to be female to join the army as a woman.

[Golden Triangle]

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's ignoring the fact that an applicant, or draftee, has to be female to join the army as a woman.

I don't know the answer to this, are they allowed 'officially' to change their birth gender ?

[BangkokReady]

5 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's ignoring the fact that an applicant, or draftee, has to be female to join the army as a woman.

 

Where does it say she wants to join the Army as a woman?  The very fact that she felt the need to point out that there are female soldiers after referencing herself and people like her suggests that she sees herself as different to the female soldier.

 

"However she said that she saw no reason why she and others like her should not be allowed to serve in the army.  After all there were female soldiers. "

 

What she means is "I don't see any reason why Ladyboys shouldn't joining the Army, after all, there are female soldiers".

[Pilotman]

1 hour ago, Golden Triangle said:

I don't know the answer to this, are they allowed 'officially' to change their birth gender ?

no.  Their ID still gives gender at birth, as does their passport.  

Edited April 3, 2021 by Pilotman

[Pilotman]

well she (they) are going to have  a rare old time in the Military, as will their male colleagues.  

[Nsp64]

Another attention seeking LGBTQ++++

[Golden Triangle]

1 hour ago, Nsp64 said:

Another attention seeking LGBTQ++++

The thing is that's it's considered normal here, not so at our respective home countries, anyone got any experience from home ? I know recently that the US changed some policies but I can't really see the SAS/ SBS/Royal Marines letting in a few ladyboys ????????

[tifino]

Beauty in the eye of the ballholder 

[daveAustin]

12 hours ago, yeahbutif said:

I thought the call up age was 20.  Not 22. Is this right

The obligatory lottery is 21-30. Believe this volunteering for different ages — 18-20, 22-29 — is a new thing. 

[bendejo]

3 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

The thing is that's it's considered normal here, not so at our respective home countries, anyone got any experience from home ? I know recently that the US changed some policies but I can't really see the SAS/ SBS/Royal Marines letting in a few ladyboys ????????

 

I don't follow this issue closely, but for the US I would guess the issue would be more centered on born-women transing to male.

 

 

[fangless]

Why are they still termed "Ladyboys" if they have undergone the full surgical transition to female?

[jackdd]

16 minutes ago, fangless said:

Why are they still termed "Ladyboys" if they have undergone the full surgical transition to female?

What else should they be called?

[fangless]

8 minutes ago, jackdd said:

What else should they be called?

Women!

[Olmate]

9 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

The thing is that's it's considered normal here, not so at our respective home countries, anyone got any experience from home ? I know recently that the US changed some policies but I can't really see the SAS/ SBS/Royal Marines letting in a few ladyboys ????????

Cate McGregor. former graduate of Duntroon Military Academy prob Ozmost well known trans soldier 

[Pattaya Spotter]

I remember reading once in the Thai press that transgender military draft call-ups are often given a medical waiver from serving due to having "unusually" large breasts (for a man). 

[jackdd]

57 minutes ago, fangless said:

Women!

Women don't have an Y chromosome.

[fangless]

15 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Women don't have an Y chromosome.

Some men don't seem to have any brain cells either!

[2530Ubon]

1 hour ago, fangless said:

Women!

But they aren't women... they are men with implants. Transgender woman would be acceptable. We politely use pronouns she/her but it's BS. The same way that women who transition to men are not men. They're women with implants. Being polite and accepting peoples choices should not be the same as confusing what people are. Kids today are learning about people claiming to be 'gender fluid' 'non-binary' etc. Self determination is exactly that. SELF determination. Biologically, we are what we are.

[Pilotman]

1 minute ago, 2530Ubon said:

But they aren't women... they are men with implants. Transgender woman would be acceptable. We politely use pronouns she/her but it's BS. The same way that women who transition to men are not men. They're women with implants. Being polite and accepting peoples choices should not be the same as confusing what people are. Kids today are learning about people claiming to be 'gender fluid' 'non-binary' etc. Self determination is exactly that. SELF determination. Biologically, we are what we are.

correct, If you have a Y chromosome, you are a man, end of.  I would say, by all means call yourself whatever you like and by all means  live however you like, all power to you, but don't try no fob off nature's reality  with spurious arguments.  

[Liverpool Lou]

15 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

I don't know the answer to this, are they allowed 'officially' to change their birth gender ?

Males cannot change into females.   They can have cosmetic surgery and medication but they cannot change their sex.

[Liverpool Lou]

13 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

19 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's ignoring the fact that an applicant, or draftee, has to be female to join the army as a woman.

 

Where does it say she wants to join the Army as a woman? 

Well, that was his quote that he seemed to be using to justify his situation so it's not unreasonable to assume that he wants to be a woman in the army.   If he didn't, why did he turn up dressed as one?

[Bluespunk]

22 hours ago, webfact said:

However she said that she saw no reason why she and others like her should not be allowed to serve in the army.

 

After all there were female soldiers. 

 

She said that if she is free to serve in the future and if she is allowed to do so she will jump at the chance. 

Good for her, while not a career choice I’d make, it’s good to see she wishes to serve her country. 

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

it's not unreasonable to assume that he wants to be a woman in the army

 

It is, possibly even foolish to do so, based on exactly what I wrote in my previous comment.

[tifino]

If one is declaring to be a PostOp... I wonder if the Army demands her to submit to proving it?   stirrups'n'all  

[chuang]

Beautiful.....

[Freigeist365]

Joining the army (regardless of it being just for basic training and/or several years) should be done on free will only. Anyone drafted in by "force" won't be a "well functioning" soldier anyway.

A person has to have it in him/her to become a soldier, and often enough, people who really would love to join the armed forces are not drafted or are being rejected, whilst others who hate weapons, war, fighting and conflict in general, are drafted in to have a miserable year or more...

My take on this: Leave the youngsters (especially transgenders) alone and let them make their own choices! Make love, not war!

Btw. love all of the girls shown in the article and would take any of them to be my GF at any given time.

Edited April 4, 2021 by Freigeist365

[GarryP]

10 hours ago, daveAustin said:

The obligatory lottery is 21-30. Believe this volunteering for different ages — 18-20, 22-29 — is a new thing. 

If you are studying or have other valid reasons, you can defer annually to 25.  

[ThailandRyan]

 

"However she said that she saw no reason why she and others like her should not be allowed to serve in the army.  After all there were female soldiers". 

 

So sign them up and enlist them with the other women.  Don't ask don't tell.  Why the charades, many LGBT men and women serve successfully in the military.  

Edited April 4, 2021 by ThailandRyan