Thailand reports biggest daily jump in new COVID-19 cases

[Jimbo2014]

8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The reported Sinovac numbers seem to be all over the map.... From your BBC report:

 

"China's Sinovac vaccine for instance has shown in trials in Brazil to be only 50.4% effective, barely over the 50% threshold needed for regulatory approval by the World Health Organisation.

 

Interim results from late-stage trials in Turkey and Indonesia however, have suggested the Sinovac shot to be between 91% and 65% effective."

 

But again, this info doesn't say against what strains...though presumably the Brazil data would be for the Brazil strain. And, they don't explain what they mean when they say "effective."

 

But also, to the best of my knowledge, China has not been very clear or transparent about the the effectiveness data for their vaccines.

 

 

 

You are right and its very hard to know when the data remains vague, inconsistent and hidden.  At least the CCP are consistent with their inability to release data.  

[ThailandRyan]

30 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

My wife went back to her village in Chaiyaphum a couple of days ago. At that time, there was one person with Covid in the village across the highway. (And this is way out in the sticks; over an hour and a half from Khon Kaen; not even a 7 Eleven within anything resembling close range) Today, there are five Covid cases in her village. Nobody going to a hospital; just everyone at home and being told they cannot drink alcohol in public.

Hope the village does not become surrounded in barbed wire and shut off from outside.  

[Nojohndoe]

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I posted the info for exactly that reason, and to encourage discussion on the topic.

 

A lot of the news media report on the "efficacy" of CV vaccines often talks about their ability to prevent "symptomatic" COVID and then related percentages for that.

 

But I think for the typical person, what they probably most care about is that they don't end up needing to be hospitalized and they don't die... So it's to pay attention to those kind of efficacy numbers as well.

 

And then, all of the above is complicated by the fact that different vaccines perform differently when it comes to handling different strains.. the original one, the UK one, Brazil one, etc etc.  The strain currently in Thailand seems to be more the UK/Cambodia strain...

 

So discussions of vaccine effectiveness for vaccines and people in Thailand, at least for now, probably ought to focus on how a vaccine handles the UK strain.

 

The indications to date are that as yet the current vaccines remain acceptably effective on the variants despite a drop in efficacy.

From a virology perspective there need be a maintained mitigation and vaccination process to slow the spread which in itself provides the opportunity for more dangerous mutations which could totally escape vaccine efficacy.

Unlike the original SARS virus which seemingly  devolved into oblivion this  SARS Covid 19 is so far demonstrating a propensity to do the opposite!

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 minutes ago, Tracyb said:

At least 37 provinces have implemented entry restrictions yet the Nat’l govt has not banned travel.  Here’s part of a notice posted today by the US Embassy:

 

Thanks for sharing that.. The number of such provinces has been gradually climbing over the past week. I think it started out in the two dozen range, and now is up to 3 dozen.. Unfortunately, the Ministry of Interior website with that info is all TH language only...

 

This is an EN version from the government from a couple days back, but it's now not fully up to date:

 

 

 

 

[Pattaya Spotter]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Sounds like what I get with my seasonal allergies, interesting.

That "conjunctivitis" is what I get after a visit to Nana Plaza.

[Pattaya Spotter]

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Thanks for sharing that.. The number of such provinces has been gradually climbing over the past week. I think it started out in the two dozen range, and now is up to 3 dozen.. Unfortunately, the Ministry of Interior website with that info is all TH language only...

 

This is an EN version from the government from a couple days back, but it's now not fully up to date:

 

 

 

 

Phuket is wide open.

[AndyFoxy]

3 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

That "conjunctivitis" is what I get after a visit to Nana Plaza.

That’s what the ladies get after I visit Nana.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

According to the MoPH, we're now down to just 1 province (the white category on the chart) that hasn't had any reported COVID cases. 72 provinces (in red) have had 1 or more new cases in the past 3 days. Four others longer back.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thaimoph/posts/285668403043070

 

[Jeffr2]

9 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Phuket is wide open.

For now. We were about ready to go there last year and they shut down the island.

 

We live in crazy times when you can't even plan for next week.

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

According to the MoPH, we're now down to just 1 province (the white category on the chart) that hasn't had any reported COVID cases. 72 provinces (in red) have had 1 or more new cases in the past 3 days. Four others longer back.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thaimoph/posts/285668403043070

 

I think this is the worst we've seen so far. Wow.

 

Thank you so much for sharing all this information. It's sincerely appreciated by most of us.  LOL

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

"The Ministry of Public Health has clarified that the government has no policy of allowing COVID-19 patients to be treated at home and infected persons must be hospitalized.

 

Department of Disease Control (DDC) Director-General Dr Opas Karnkawinpong said Thailand had no policy to confine people infected with COVID-19 to their homes. If hospital beds are full, they will be forwarded to a field hospital or a hotel semi-hospital system to treat patients with mild symptoms.

 

He added that the majority of infected people in this new wave have relatively few symptoms, so a hotel system is adapted to be a hospitel, with a medical and public healthcare system, and there are also thousands of rooms available at present."

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157945059927050

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Just now, Jeffr2 said:

I think this is the worst we've seen so far. Wow.

 

Thank you so much for sharing all this information. It's sincerely appreciated by most of us.  LOL

 

For the moment, many of the provinces have only a very few number of officially reported COVID cases, especially away from the big cities. No way to know whether that's a function of little testing there and rural healthcare systems, and/or, the spread is just beginning to reach those areas.

 

[FarFlungFalang]

2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

The curve doesn't exactly follow.  Today's numbers should have been much higher.  Hmmm....

Most of the testers have gone on Songkran break.Probably with those to be tested.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

"The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) provides the following updates for travellers regarding the cancellation of Songkran 2021 festivities in different locations in Thailand, as part of the nationwide effort to curb the spread of the recent community transmission of COVID-19.

 

The Department of Disease Control is also encouraging people to take care of themselves during the Songkran holiday in Thailand by strictly practicing COVID-19 prevention measures while travelling to and staying in their hometown, in order to reduce the risk of COVID-19 infection. "

 

https://www.tatnews.org/2021/04/list-of-locations-where-songkran-2021-festivities-are-cancelled/

 

"Please note that this is a living document, which the TAT Newsroom will update as new information becomes available regarding the cancellation of Songkran 2021 festivities."

 

 

 

[FarFlungFalang]

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

For the moment, many of the provinces have only a very few number of officially reported COVID cases, especially away from the big cities. No way to know whether that's a function of little testing there and rural healthcare systems, and/or, the spread is just beginning to reach those areas.

 

When I inquired about testing at our nearest town hospital they said the test would be sent to Ubon Ratchathani to be processed so I expect there might be some delays getting results in regional areas.

[malibukid]

where are the vaccines?  loss of face=loss of life

[sapson]

5 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

When I inquired about testing at our nearest town hospital they said the test would be sent to Ubon Ratchathani to be processed so I expect there might be some delays getting results in regional areas.

 

Did they quote you a price or offer any advice on the procedure should the test be positive?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Looks like the BMA for Bangkok province is getting ready to open one of its first COVID field hospital venues:

 

 

 

 

Slideshow of photos, but text in TH language:

https://www.facebook.com/prbangkok/posts/3394858363947094

 

The Army is also working on multiple field hospital facilities in and around Bangkok, including one at the 1st Anti-Aircraft Artillery Regiment on Chaengwattana Road in Lak Si district.

 

Edited April 12, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[sapson]

1 hour ago, John Drake said:

My wife went back to her village in Chaiyaphum a couple of days ago. At that time, there was one person with Covid in the village across the highway. (And this is way out in the sticks; over an hour and a half from Khon Kaen; not even a 7 Eleven within anything resembling close range) Today, there are five Covid cases in her village. Nobody going to a hospital; just everyone at home and being told they cannot drink alcohol in public.

 

Five cases in the village and if they didnt go to hospital to get tested how did they confirm a positive unless the village clinic is testing?  

 

If positive should have been shipped off to Khon kaen hospital or Chaiyaphum hospital.

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

The National Health Security Office (NHSO) will make use of its hotline to help COVID-19 patients find beds at their nearest medical facilities, as infections shot up in recent days.

 

NHSO secretary-general Jadet Thammathat-Aree said the Public Health Minister has directed the Department of Medical Services (DMS) and the Emergency Medical Institute (EMI) to use the National Health Security Office's 1330 hotline to receive emergency calls from COVID-19 patients who are looking for facilities which could take them in.

 

Patients and others who are seeking further information on COVID-19 treatment facilities can also call the DMS' hotline at 1668. DMS will keep the NHSO updated on the number of beds available at hospitals so hotline operators can answer each inquiry.

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157945063177050

 

 

[FarFlungFalang]

12 minutes ago, sapson said:

 

Did they quote you a price or offer any advice on the procedure should the test be positive?

Sorry I didn't inquire about the price or procedure.I will next time though.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And meanwhile in Chiang Mai:

 

Link:

 

 

[dallen52]

4 hours ago, Sharp said:

What's the best way to get everyone on board with vaccines ...ummmm!!

First step would be to have vaccines to give everyone.

Instead of hoping private hospitals will sell sufficient to cover the shortfall

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

First step would be to have vaccines to give everyone.

Instead of hoping private hospitals will sell sufficient to cover the shortfall

 

Other than promises, no concrete news whatsoever that I've heard about any imported vaccines becoming available soon via any of the private hospital chains.  If any of them do source a supply and it becomes public, I suspect they'd be crushed....

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

https://twitter.com/nnanews/status/1381537581846814724

[Cake Monster]

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

As cases rise and accumulate, so do hospitalizations, as government policy is that any positive case must be hospitalized in some form or fashion.

Its the only way to get the people to Isolate.

Asking them to self Isolate at Home is a no-no, as the majority of Thais would never do this.

They would be off down the 7/11 every Day, going Shopping, getting take away food,  Etc Etc Etc because they have little self discipline.

[Blaxland]

Donald Trump jokingly said last year along the lines of that if you want to reduce the number of new cases just stop the testing.Is that the case here?Unfortunately they wouldn’t be joking here.

[John Drake]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Hope the village does not become surrounded in barbed wire and shut off from outside.  

 

I can never tell what is really going on there, but they always seem to come out on the upside. Half of the village works for the police, the other half is split between government workers, a few teachers, and a handful of farmers. Should put Thonglor behind razor wire and force the inmates to eat gruel for starting this.

[bermondburi]

1 hour ago, John Drake said:

 

My wife went back to her village in Chaiyaphum a couple of days ago. At that time, there was one person with Covid in the village across the highway. (And this is way out in the sticks; over an hour and a half from Khon Kaen; not even a 7 Eleven within anything resembling close range) Today, there are five Covid cases in her village. Nobody going to a hospital; just everyone at home and being told they cannot drink alcohol in public.

If they tested positive, why aren't they in hospital?

[Darkside Gray]

Don't forget the imported cases all 5 of them!