Thailand reports 965 new COVID-19 cases

[ThailandRyan]

11 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Couple to face legal action for not disclosing their COVID infections

 

Health officials have recommended that the disease control committee of the southern province of Nakhon Si Thammarat consider taking legal action against a couple, who allegedly concealed the facts about their possible COVID-19 infection in a way which put other people at risk.

 

The couple flew separately from Bangkok to Nakhon Si Thammarat by Thai Lion Air on April 11th.

 

The 26-year old man, a native of Nakhon Si Thammarat, was informed by a close friend, with whom he had dinner on April 3rd, about his friend’s infection on the morning of April 11th, but he boarded the flight anyway. On arrival at his home in Muang district by a taxi, however, he immediately went to the Maharaj Hospital for a COVID-19 test, which confirmed he was infected, and he was admitted to the hospital.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/couple-to-face-legal-action-for-not-disclosing-their-covid-infections/

 

 

Some people, and then their are those that wonder why allowing self isolation if positive is not being done.  This is a prime example, the guy could care less about others and he wanted to go home and do as he pleased it sounds like.  Now the whole flight and staff are possibly infected.

[Chiang Mai Bill]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Slight reduction, i wonder how much of the reduction is because of less testing and people being on holiday not caring about tests.

 

Im actually surprised it still that high given Songkran and less tests. 

 

It will be more interesting to see what the result will be after this holiday when people are back and tests are being done more regularly. 

Yes, quite.

 

And isn't it uncanny that the figures never go over over the 'thousand' and remain in the hundreds?  Seeing that the virus is so virulent.  But we feel much safer this way.

[robblok]

11 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Some people, and then their are those that wonder why allowing self isolation if positive is not being done.  This is a prime example, the guy could care less about others and he wanted to go home and do as he pleased it sounds like.  Now the whole flight and staff are possibly infected.

In Singapore it seems to work. I hear they have tracing bracelets. A friend had one and the strap was too long. (wrist too small) so he cut it. A while later the police appeared. They thought he cut it completely. So it can be done. But not in Thailand. You need people to watch the people who are wearing the devices and take action. 

 

In a country like Thailand its easier to just quarantine people as they don't have the right equipment and it would cost too much. I doubt that self quarantine works anywhere in the world. People are selfish by nature. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The BMA for Bangkok yesterday released a list of the numbers of COVID cases by district in Bangkok... There's no full EN version I've found/seen, but here are the couple with the most cases, and the full list in TH.

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/prbangkok/posts/3395244793908451

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

GPO to buy half a million Favipiravir tablets to cope with new Covid-19 wave

 

"The Government Pharmaceutical Organisation (GPO) is planning to procure an additional 500,000 tablets of Favipiravir for treatment of Covid-19 patients following a new outbreak in Bangkok since late March, which has quickly spread to several provinces.

 

“Currently we have 411,200 tablets in stock, while the GPO's Medical Supply Reservation and Logistics Division is planning to soon procure an additional 500,000 tablets to prepare for increasing number of patients and to ensure uninterrupted treatment of existing patients,” said Sirikul Matevelungsun, GPO deputy managing director.

 

Sirikul added that since the start of the week, the GPO has begun distributing Favipiravir tablets in its stock to hospitals and medical units nationwide, especially in provinces with a high number of infections. Treatment of each Covid-19 patient requires up to 70 tablets of Favipiravir."

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30404841

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Free Covid-19 tests to be provided under social security scheme

 

The Ministry of Labour will provide free Covid-19 tests to members of the social security scheme. The initiative covers members under Sections 33, 39 and 40 of the Social Security Act.

 

Section 33 covers current employees, Section 39 covers former employees who wish to preserve their insured status by continuing to contribute to the fund, and Section 40 covers self-employed people.

 

“The programme will kick off on April 17 at Bangkok Youth Centre (Thai - Japan) in Bangkok’s Din Daeng district, whereas those insured under the social security scheme, who are in risky groups, can receive Covid-19 tests for free,” Labour Minister Suchart Chomklin said on Monday.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30404839

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Nakhon Ratchasima province had a big jump in reported daily COVID cases today to 67... Part of the reason:

 

Nakhon Ratchasima reports new Covid cluster at BBQ restaurant

 

Health officials in Nakhon Ratchasima say 13 staff at a barbecue buffet restaurant in Muang district have tested positive for Covid-19.

 

The staff were tested after an investigation of a Covid-19 patient’s timeline revealed that she had eaten at the restaurant on April 5. The restaurant, located in front of Rajamangala University of Technology Isan on Sura Narai Road, shut its doors on April 10 and all staff were ordered to get a Covid test.

 

Health officials in the Northeast province announced on Monday that anyone who visited the restaurant between April 5 and 9 should get a test immediately.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30404851

 

Edited April 13, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, edwardandtubs said:

New cases have plateaued so you guys who have been predicting viral apocalypse for the past few days won't have to lock yourself in your basement for the next year after all.

Plateaued or just away on holiday or not wanting to pay for a test or be hospitalised?

[Cake Monster]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

Slight reduction, i wonder how much of the reduction is because of less testing and people being on holiday not caring about tests.

 

Im actually surprised it still that high given Songkran and less tests. 

 

It will be more interesting to see what the result will be after this holiday when people are back and tests are being done more regularly. 

Tests should be being done more regularly.

Hmmmm

[Megasin1]

more convinced than ever that these reports are just made up. Look at infection curves anywhere in the world, except Thailand and you never see a flat rate increase as perfect as this ????

[John Drake]

42 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Note: the Prime Minister met the other day with leaders of Thailand's private hospitals association, and he and other government officials emerged promising that private hospitals would be allowed to import up to 10 million vaccine doses.

 

Why limit the number to 10 million?

[mjakob007]

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Vaccinations update: total doses, first shot and second shot subtotals:

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/305192341099097

 

 

Comparision of Thailand and other countries in terms vaccination efforts

 

covid cases and vaccination rates.docx

 

[mjakob007]

4 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Why limit the number to 10 million?

thats all we got paid for...

[dogfish180]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

Slight reduction, i wonder how much of the reduction is because of less testing and people being on holiday not caring about tests.

 

Im actually surprised it still that high given Songkran and less tests. 

 

It will be more interesting to see what the result will be after this holiday when people are back and tests are being done more regularly. 

Who in their right mind would voluntarily go for a Covid test, unless planning a flight? The consequences of getting a positive test should be enough to scare anyone away!

[robblok]

Just now, dogfish180 said:

Who in their right mind would voluntarily go for a Covid test, unless planning a flight? The consequences of getting a positive test should be enough to scare anyone away!

Responsible people who are worried to infect the people around them. I can imagine people living alone who don't care much about others would not do so. I would hate to be the one that infected all my friends. So yes id go for a test if i was at risk.

 

My GF had to do a test because she was at a certain bar and there were 10 in her company who got infected. It was all clear and yes i fear getting locked up too. Losing out on work and other stuff. But putting your head in the sand and acting like there is no problem is not the right way to go around.

 

I just worry about others who i might infect.

[Petey11]

1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:

The week leading up to the April 4th the seven day rolling average was about 16,000 tests per day according to world in data.

 

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing#how-many-tests-are-performed-each-day

 

That figure is different on the MOPH site listing laboratory tests carried out. Only in the last couple of days has it started to go up from about 3k a day, now to 16k listed for yesterday. 

[robblok]

For all those people who are afraid of the Astra Zeneca blood cloth issue. Do know that if you fly you got 100 times more risk for blood cloth issues then if you get the vaccine. Does not seem to scare people from flying.  

 

All that scaremongering and those antivaxers with their strange theories are making people affraid. 30+ Million people in UK vaccinated. I don't see them dropping dead over there because of blood cloths. The risk of getting covid and its bad effects is far higher then taking a vaccine.

 

Well done UK show the world how its done. The more countries that show positive results will silence those loons with their theories. 

 

Word wide 797 million shots of vaccination taken. Now if it was as bad as those anti vaxers make it out to be people would be dropping dead all over the world. Compare that with how many die from a 100 million covid cases and its after effects. Just to put it in perspective.

[FarFlungFalang]

2 minutes ago, Petey11 said:

That figure is different on the MOPH site listing laboratory tests carried out. Only in the last couple of days has it started to go up from about 3k a day, now to 16k listed for yesterday. 

I think an audit of the numbers would be interesting.I think there might be some amount of testing in quarantine and also confirmation testing of positive cases in the mix and some anonymous testing categories not mentioned just to boost the numbers to make them look better.1000 is about 6.25% of 16000 so an infection rate of about 6%.

[rabas]

31 minutes ago, Megasin1 said:

more convinced than ever that these reports are just made up. Look at infection curves anywhere in the world, except Thailand and you never see a flat rate increase as perfect as this ????

You do, but only at the start of a new, fresh outbreak before a lot of effort to stop it.  Western countries are now so heavily infected that you cant see 'fresh' data. 

[FarFlungFalang]

12 minutes ago, robblok said:

For all those people who are afraid of the Astra Zeneca blood cloth issue. Do know that if you fly you got 100 times more risk for blood cloth issues then if you get the vaccine. Does not seem to scare people from flying.  

 

All that scaremongering and those antivaxers with their strange theories are making people affraid. 30+ Million people in UK vaccinated. I don't see them dropping dead over there because of blood cloths. The risk of getting covid and its bad effects is far higher then taking a vaccine.

 

Well done UK show the world how its done. The more countries that show positive results will silence those loons with their theories. 

 

Word wide 797 million shots of vaccination taken. Now if it was as bad as those anti vaxers make it out to be people would be dropping dead all over the world. Compare that with how many die from a 100 million covid cases and its after effects. Just to put it in perspective.

Apparently there have been 7 deaths and 30 cases of blood clots from the Astra Zeneca vaccine who wood not have died had an alternative been used.There are alternatives which I think is point worth considering.You are right of course we do weigh the risks for many different things we do like driving etc.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56620646

[robblok]

1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Apparently there have been 7 deaths and 30 cases of blood clots from the Astra Zeneca vaccine who wood not have died had an alternative been used.There are alternatives which I think is point worth considering.You are right of course we do weigh the risks for many different things we do like driving etc.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56620646

Now 7 deaths is bad.. but given the number of vaccines given its quite low. Yes it bad when your one of those. I too would want a moderna or Pfizer vaccine. But only because its more effective against other strains. 

[Golden Triangle]

I just heard the news on BBC radio 2, the NHS in the UK has today invited everyone over 45 years old to come in for vaccination, at least someone is getting it right.

[Golden Triangle]

3 hours ago, edwardandtubs said:

And what medicine do you suggest I need for holding a different opinion?

A healthy dose of realism washed down with a big glass common sense would be a good start. The holiday has just started and we all know the Thais love to party. ????

[AMFWolfie]

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Slight reduction, i wonder how much of the reduction is because of less testing and people being on holiday not caring about tests.

 

Im actually surprised it still that high given Songkran and less tests. 

 

It will be more interesting to see what the result will be after this holiday when people are back and tests are being done more regularly. 

Don't fully understand about these tests and who's doing them and where.  Most private hospitals are turning people away today who simply want to get tested but for no other reason quoting insufficient test kits. We've had to book a Covid test two weeks before we fly without to much difficulty at THB 3,800 per person but really cant see how the government are just randomly testing...

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Plateaued or just away on holiday or not wanting to pay for a test or be hospitalised?

Why ruin your Songkran by getting tested and finding out you have Covid-19, gotta have Sanook, more important to hang with family and friends.

[blackcab]

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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

In Singapore it seems to work. I hear they have tracing bracelets. A friend had one and the strap was too long. (wrist too small) so he cut it. A while later the police appeared. They thought he cut it completely.

 

Your Singapore description above kinda reminds me of the locked on ankle bracelets that the authorities in the US and perhaps elsewhere put on people who are out of bail or probation....

 

Right now, Thailand's up to 6,000+ active current cases of people who tested positive and are in some kind of hospital/field hospital facility....  I'd imagine, the alternative of trying to do electronic tracking on that volume of folks, an amount that's probably gonna go higher, could end up being quite a task!

 

But even moreso, even if a bracelet or tracker ensured the person was staying at home, that by no means means they're gonna be separate from non-infected family members. It might just mean, they'd be locked up at home in close quarters to infect everyone else living there!

 

 

Edited April 13, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[robsamui]

9 hours ago, BookShe said:

I was posting this to a wrong thread yesterday, sorry for the re-post.

 

Is this really happening???

 

After one year into the pandemic, what did Thailand do to mitigate the damage other than…..

 

1, coming up with bogus and idiotic ideas every week, such as : travel bubble, Phuket model, STV visa, golf quarantine, ASQs, area quarantine, Hub of everything, target therapy, and sandbox.

After all this brain farting for a year, at least 16 (Sixteen)!!!!! people arrived in Phuket the other week, so I guess it’s a success.

 

2, After one year into the pandemic, and after numerous lockdowns, alcohol bans, curfews, and controversial policies, which pretty much killed an entire industry (tourism), we are back to square one. 

 

3, After one year into the pandemic and a year-long chance of learning from other countries, what is working and what isn’t, they still couldn’t come up

with a protocol for testing people. Charging 3-5000 Thb for a test, admitting the positive cases to a hospital bed, and then refusing to take more tests because of shortages of beds?

I know that is free tests are also available, but there are many articles about people are avoiding being tested, because they are afraid of forced hospitalization and probably huge hospital bills.

Is getting prepared in LOS illegal? One year was not enough to get prepared? It’s comforting to know that Thailand has 3-400,000 test kits available. Really? That’s all they have?

Some smaller countries are testing more than that per day. 

 

4, After one year into the pandemic and the clear message that only vaccination (and not travel bubbles and area quarantines) can bring back normalcy, where is the evidence that Thailand was working hard to sign agreements with all available vaccine producers? (most countries signed these agreements 6 months ago with various companies without knowing who can deliver at the end)

Thailand was opted out of a COVAX program that delivers vaccines to poorer countries. The result? Every neighboring SE Asian country and even Africa is well ahead of Thailand, in terms of vaccination.

 

5, After one year into pandemic Thailand, just allowed the private sector to obtain other available vaccines. The request was made some 5 months ago.

I would be surprised if they could pull this off, as most vaccine producers have limited supplies, and I’m sure it’s been reserved and paid, for the next 6-12 months.

So unless these private companies are willing to pay 5 or 10 times more for a single dose I don’t see this option viable.

Rumors about Astra-Zeneca being produced locally is great news, however being an expat and knowing the way things go in LOS, I have my doubts.

 

6, After one year into the pandemic, is it a coincidence or just bad luck, that the only “Widely” available vaccine is Sinovac? The vaccine which is the least effective of any available jabs.

https://apnews.com/article/beijing-immunizations-chengdu-coronavirus-pandemic-china-675bcb6b5710c7329823148ffbff6ef9

Is it a coincidence that CP group (the biggest conglomerate in Thailand) is a large stakeholder in this company? https://www.kaohoon.com/content/413496

 

7,  Ohh dear Songran. After one year into the pandemic didn’t they learn that human contacts are the culprits of spreading the virus? I’m very satisfied that they quickly found

the new scapegoats “entertainment venues” (awesome work Sherlocks), but the math just doesn’t add up. I’m not an expert, but using only common sense…. 

entertainment venues = few hundred contacts vs. Songran traveling = Millions!!!! I might be wrong though, and I just hope that one year of sacrifice and relative safety was not for nothing.

If it’s really the UK strain that causing this new uptick in cases, we might be looking into a very dark 2021. This strain is devastating Europe even though they are well ahead of their vaccination program.

As of today, Thailand has the wrong protocol of handling test positives, no effective vaccine, and yet encouraging millions of people to travel across the country. 

Why are the borders still closed? What’s the point of that and at the same time letting Millions travel? Why the lie about individual province restrictions? There are NONE. 

People are reporting worry-free travel to any of those provinces that announced restrictions. 

 

8. Only one question left. Are they doing all this on purpose, or they are really that stupid?

At last - an comprehensive and articulate post. 
And yes, it's mystifying to me, too.

 

My only conclusion is that it's what you get when you combine unbelievably low intelligence and an ostrich-like head-in-the-sand attitude with an ongoing dread of losing face. This is  normally only found locked away in secure facilities, as being a danger to society. But in Thailand it's the attitude and outlook that's running a nation.

 

I think it elevates 'stupidity' to levels of ignorance rarely ever seen before, anywhere. and gives the word a whole new meaning.

 

Edited April 13, 2021 by onthedarkside
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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Apparently there have been 7 deaths and 30 cases of blood clots from the Astra Zeneca vaccine who wood not have died had an alternative been used.There are alternatives which I think is point worth considering.You are right of course we do weigh the risks for many different things we do like driving etc.

 

 

It's also a matter of context:

 

"Among more than 20 million people who have been vaccinated with the AstraZeneca vaccine in the UK so far, 79 cases of rare blood clots with low platelets have been reported, as well as 19 deaths, said the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency. This equates to around one case per 250 000 people vaccinated—0.0004%—and one death in a million.

 

About 100 000 people usually develop blood clots every month in the EU, and 3000 cases a month are thought to occur in the UK."

 

 

 

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n931

 

[blackcab]

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I'd imagine, trying to do electronic tracking on that volume of folks, an amount that's probably gonna go higher, could end up being quite a task!

 

The electronic/internet side of the tracking is not a problem. The first major obstacle might be that Thailand does not have that quantity of trackers available.

 

The second obstacle might be: What would you actually do with the data? If the purpose is for enforcement, who is going to be doing the enforcement? How would they do this? Who would pay for the enforcement?