"Thai Women don't feel Love"

[GinBoy2]

22 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I experience the love of a woman every time I have a spare 1,500bht in my pocket.

I experience the love of my children every time I buy them a bag of Kanom Lay.

I experience the love of my rabbits for 30bht/week of rabbit food.

 

It doesn't matter how you experience love, but it's never free.

Interesting outlook on love.

 

My children all grown up now, love me, not because I give them anything with the exception of the love that a parent gives to a child.

 

I would argue that  parent/child love is the purest love you will ever experience, certainly something that I have experienced in my life.

There were times when growing up as teenagers I didn't always like them, but I always loved them.

[richard_smith237]

7 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

Interesting outlook on love.

 

My children all grown up now, love me, not because I give them anything with the exception of the love that a parent gives to a child.

 

I would argue that  parent/child love is the purest love you will ever experience, certainly something that I have experienced in my life.

There were times when growing up as teenagers I didn't always like them, but I always loved them.

 

In Britman's world they only love you because you feed them or give them money.... 

 

It's a highly depressing outlook from someone who has been so badly burned in the past that it seems he has never recovered. I feel sorry for him, particularly the manner in which he seems to be of the belief that every other relationship is doomed to failure, that love is not real and relies on reciprocity because thats what happened to him....

 

.... its a shame what happened to him and others, but that sad drum is tired and over beaten... not every relationship is doomed to the same failure. 

 

Additionally, as tough as it may seem, given the comments I’ve witnessed on this thread and many others it really is not surprising that some relationships fail and the guys unable to recognise they are the architect in that failure - misogyny is not generally a trait women warm to.

 

 

 

 

[Excel]

1 hour ago, sencelebi said:

They do feel love, actually their love is stronger than the European or US women. But they don't express themselfs, they are mostly not romantic but they deeply fall in love when they find the right man.

it is true that most/some Thai woman wants nothing to do with Thai men since Thai men are not a real family men and self fish.

But this applies to uneducated,village or low income Thai women/men

Educated and self supported women with high income prefers white collar  Thai men.

And exactly how many women from both of the background types have you discussed with this in order to reach that conclusion ? Sounds more like opiniated drivel to me obtained through bar chats.

[hellohello123]

On 4/18/2021 at 7:29 PM, GinBoy2 said:

Well, thats the dirty rotten truth about many Farang/Thai relationships.

 

It's not based on love, or indeed attraction but much more a financial transaction. In that toxic relationship the idea that 'love' comes in to the equation is nonsensical.

 

If anyone is delusional enough to believe that the 60 somethings farang and the 20/30 something Thai relationship is based on anything but money and not love, you need help!

 

Thats a brutal truth, which I know will <deleted> folks off and I expect the blowback, but truth hurts

Not when every 60year old farang in Thailand thinks they are hansom, and looks 20 years younger , whilst their wife is 40 but looks 30, has 3 phds and every guy walking down the street is ogling  them with pure jealousy

[BritManToo]

25 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

I would argue that  parent/child love is the purest love you will ever experience, certainly something that I have experienced in my life.

I would agree with you, but it still costs you money.

[GinBoy2]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I would agree with you, but it still costs you money.

Well, turning on the lights costs me money, but I'm not asking the utility company for love in exchange! 

[ravip]

4 hours ago, StevieAus said:

In relation to your last paragraph, are you suggesting that one should divest oneself of ones assets, money etc or hide them before entering into a relationship ?

My Thai wife didn’t know any of my worth until a year after we entered into a relationship and when she moved to Australia.

After fifteen years, our marriage is still strong and she has and continues to enjoy a good and happy lifestyle.

I compare this with my first marriage to a European, when I had little compared to what I have now, she left me after about six years with a young child to bring up and never contributed to his upbringing.

I know which situation I prefer.

What I meant was not to splash around ones wealth in attracting a partner - you will obviously attract one for your wealth and not to yourself, per se.

A woman (or a man for that matter) who chooses a partner for what he is and not for what he has, has a higher chance of having a successful long term relationship.

[D M G]

Generalization

We are all humans

[hellohello123]

One thing that I have not worked out whether its a language barrier, cultural thing, girl thing, age thing,

 

but 95% of the thai girls I chatted to (and my chatting skills are well above average)

is their lack of ability to have an engaging conversation AND to try and discover things about you,

 

I would be asking their family background, or where they grew up and just general questions,

and I reckon some of them after months or even years of chatting never asked me about my family, or anything

 

in fact, 95% of them dont even tell me their name , its as though they dont know how to have a polite conversation or they just assume that me/everyone knows it, and their crappy replies

 

the number of times the converstaion went

hi my name is XXXX, nice to meet you

nice to meet you

and how has your day been, anything exciting happen today?

I had a good day thanks

I see you live in Bkk, did you grow up there?

Yes/no, and you?

 

(maybe its just me and im as boring as a house brick)

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

No so much pot-luck.... If you are overwhelmingly misogynistic and view any new relationship as nothing more than a financial transaction there is no luck involved. Someone will not find a relationship borne of mutual respect and feelings, it's going to be impossible - if any potential relationship is approached in this manner there will be repeated conformation that love is only ever something which is bought. 

When I got married I wanted sex- end of. I was happy to pay as long as I got that, but when the sex stopped it was the beginning of the inevitable end.

I'm not saying that others shouldn't want a loving and respectful relationship- up to them, but everyone has different wants in life, and that's not what I needed.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, hellohello123 said:

One thing that I have not worked out whether its a language barrier, cultural thing, girl thing, age thing,

 

but 95% of the thai girls I chatted to (and my chatting skills are well above average)

is their lack of ability to have an engaging conversation AND to try and discover things about you,

 

I would be asking their family background, or where they grew up and just general questions,

and I reckon some of them after months or even years of chatting never asked me about my family, or anything

 

in fact, 95% of them dont even tell me their name , its as though they dont know how to have a polite conversation or they just assume that me/everyone knows it, and their crappy replies

 

the number of times the converstaion went

hi my name is XXXX, nice to meet you

nice to meet you

and how has your day been, anything exciting happen today?

I had a good day thanks

I see you live in Bkk, did you grow up there?

Yes/no, and you?

 

(maybe its just me and im as boring as a house brick)

That's not just a Thai thing. None of my non Thai friends ever asked me about my life in Thailand.

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, Excel said:

Now exactly what is a failed marriage ?

That's easy. It's when one partner refuses to meet the expectations of the other. It takes 2 to make a relationship work.

[Excel]

49 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's easy. It's when one partner refuses to meet the expectations of the other. It takes 2 to make a relationship work.

Don't take  post out of context please, it makes your replies  appear foolish.

[1FinickyOne]

15 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I would agree with you, but it still costs you money.

Everything costs money... no 5 yr old buys their own school clothes... 

 

Even the free water at the hotel is built into the price... 

 

I think most of us just learn to accept this and spend our time figuring where we will get the most value for our discriminatory part of the funds

[1FinickyOne]

12 hours ago, hellohello123 said:

he number of times the converstaion went

hi my name is XXXX, nice to meet you

nice to meet you

and how has your day been, anything exciting happen today?

I had a good day thanks

I see you live in Bkk, did you grow up there?

Yes/no, and you?

 

(maybe its just me and im as boring as a house brick)

Dear house brick... maybe juice up the level of your conversation rather than accuse them... 

 

Thai love to laugh, try having a fun conversation, not a quiz show... 

 

 

[1FinickyOne]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

When I got married I wanted sex- end of. I was happy to pay as long as I got that, but when the sex stopped it was the beginning of the inevitable end.

Are you kidding? This is the opposite and equally as crazy as the guys who go to the bars and pay for it because they want true love... 

 

I might be going out on a limb here, but if you want sex and want to pay for it, why go to the wedding store - that's not what they sell there... 

 

Sort of like going to the ice cream parlor and wanting to roller skate there... someone is going to be disappointed... 

[ThailandRyan]

14 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

the guys who go to the bars and pay for it because they want true love... 

 

Hahaha ha, true love from a bar, well maybe for the short time gal, love lasts just short time. For the long time, well it just lasts until you pay them to leave.  Loveless again thereafter until the cycle repeats itself.

[robblok]

11 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

Agreed....the Illusion of love...if someone wants to pay, then great, its their money.....I guess I just argue with myself is that Im willing to invest the time and hope that I have enough skill and charm to attract a woman...but then therein lies what does a woman find "attractive" in a new culture aka asian.........so I suppose am I using the right tools of skill-charm--gentleman, whatever, or is it futile and the answer is simply.....cash...if so, fine..Im just trying to discover what keys will fit new locks in a country that differs from the one I was raised in, being a rule from my father of "always be a gentleman"....not sure if that is working.......but then again I may be trying to throw the whole female lot into the same pot........perhaps the snowflake theory that each woman is "same same  but different".....so remains the great unknown..

I don't really care what how guys attract their woman. My only remark is that those who use money to do so attract a certain kind of woman. To then state that they are all the same is just untrue. Also those who pay for it should not moan too much if cheated because that is the kind your likely to attract.

 

I prefer to attract them with who i am, certainly that limits my options. Also its no guarantee for a relation, but at least i know that if they don't like me they will leave and if they stay its because they like me. I have had some bad experiences with paying for girls. I did that a few times when i first arrived. The passion was not there often finding excuses to ge the act over as fast as possible.

 

Just really put me off, plus im looking for more then just a sex partner. If that was all i wanted paying for it and then looking for one that can do a convincing job is not super hard. That just not float my boat. 

 

But i accept everyone is different, so different guys different needs. I don't accept that guys think all woman are the same and in it for the money because they pay for it. I understand that there are plenty of woman in it for the money but there are also plenty who are not in it for the money. The ones that look really good and got a lot going for them and are not in it for the money will be harder to find then a good looking one that is in it for the money. 

 

[BritManToo]

32 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

Are you kidding? This is the opposite and equally as crazy as the guys who go to the bars and pay for it because they want true love... 

I always wondered why women who profess to love you always end up restricting the sex.

You'd think if they loved you, they'd want to please you and make you happy (sex makes most men happy).

 

A woman loves you, so you marry her, then the sex stops ................... inexplicable!

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[ravip]

36 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I always wondered why women who profess to love you always end up restricting the sex.

You'd think if they loved you, they'd want to please you and make you happy (sex makes most men happy).

 

A woman loves you, so you marry her, then the sex stops ................... inexplicable!

On the contrary, women should not feel that they want to please you and make you happy with sex - they themselves should want sex and enjoy it happily themselves.

If they are doing it solely to please the man... disaster is not far off IMHO

Applies to all women, NOT only THAI

Edited April 20, 2021 by ravip

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[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

Are you kidding? This is the opposite and equally as crazy as the guys who go to the bars and pay for it because they want true love... 

 

I might be going out on a limb here, but if you want sex and want to pay for it, why go to the wedding store - that's not what they sell there... 

 

Sort of like going to the ice cream parlor and wanting to roller skate there... someone is going to be disappointed... 

That's easy. I just got tired of trawling through dozens of bars trying to find the one in a hundred that I liked enough to spend the night with. I never thought it would be cheaper.

I found one I thought was a keeper and she was everything I wanted, till we moved to the family house, and it all went downhill from there. I just underestimated how vile her family were till we lived with them.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, ravip said:

On the contrary, women should not feel that they want to please you and make you happy with sex - they themselves should want sex and enjoy it happily themselves.

If they are doing it solely to please the man... disaster is not far off IMHO

Applies to all women, NOT only THAI

Given that most women seem to like sex at the start, how does one know if they will decide to not like it a few years later? My wife was great in bed till we moved to the family home and it stopped. When I insisted we move far away we resumed a sex life, but it was never the same, and in the end she just stopped again. How could I possibly have known that would happen?

[BritManToo]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Given that most women seem to like sex at the start, how does one know if they will decide to not like it a few years later? My wife was great in bed till we moved to the family home and it stopped. When I insisted we move far away we resumed a sex life, but it was never the same, and in the end she just stopped again. How could I possibly have known that would happen?

Because it appears to be normal female behaviour.

Provide enough sex to snag a husband, then stop once you are settled in.

I've even encountered a few nymphomaniacs who stopped having sex with their husband but were rampant with every other man.

 

Normal but inexplicable.

It's not as if providing the sex takes them much time or effort or costs them money.

[KKr]

On 4/18/2021 at 4:29 PM, GinBoy2 said:

Well, thats the dirty rotten truth about many Farang/Thai relationships.

 

one can strike through the <Farang/Thai> in that statement
My European experience is not better.
No money Honey, I helped to spend it all already,
so said the not-for-money Honey.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Because it appears to be normal female behaviour.

Provide enough sex to snag a husband, then stop once you are settled in.

I've even encountered a few nymphomaniacs who stopped having sex with their husband but were rampant with every other man.

 

Normal but inexplicable.

It's not as if providing the sex takes them much time or effort or costs them money.

I've never understood why people that loved doing something decided they didn't like doing it anymore for no apparent reason eg I used to hang out with a group that loved going dancing, but after they got married they just stopped. Perhaps they never really loved it and were only looking for a partner, but they did seem to love dancing at the time.

I guess I'll never understand people, no matter how long I know them.

[KKr]

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I've even encountered a few nymphomaniacs who stopped having sex with their husband but were rampant with every other man.

that is to proof the husband is a Very Important and Special person, worthy of preferential treatment.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Provide enough sex to snag a husband, then stop once you are settled in.

A psychologist told me the correct name for that, but I forget what it is.

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A psychologist told me the correct name for that, but I forget what it is.

The long Con.....perhaps